[RBW] 650b Rambouillet was: Feeling Abondoned

2010-01-13 Thread Larry Powers

If I recall correctly the Rambo is not a could candidate for a 650b conversion 
becuase it has low bottom bracket to start with.  Someone let me know if this 
is not true.

Larry Powers 
 
Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain



 
 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:29:41 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Feeling Abondoned
 From: charles_v...@hotmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Couldn't you just convert to 650B wheels on the Ram and use longer
 reach brakes? You would get more clearance and a wide tire selection.
 Not sure on the bottom bracket height however.
 
 On Jan 12, 3:40 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I took a nice tour on my Atlantis this past summer, I commute daily on my 
  QB, my wife and I toured France on our Rambouillet and Bleriot (I also 
  completed PBP on my Rambo) and my wife likes to tool around our 
  neighborhood on her Glorius.  We like Riv bikes and have bought our share.  
  I know things change and can understand moving production to Taiwan because 
  of the exchange rate.  I guess the thing that pushed my buttons was to read 
  that the Ruffy Tuffy/Rolly Polly tires will be discontinued.  When I bought 
  my Rambouillet it was touted as unique because it could use a large 28mm 
  tire with fenders.  Ruffy Tuffy tires have been my tire of choice for this 
  bike and now Riv has abandoned both the bike and the tire.  I believe that 
  the Homer Hilson is the bike that Grant really intended to build when the 
  developed the Rambouillet.  But the parts available at the time placed 
  limits on the design.  The availability of longer and wider brakes finally 
  allowed the Hilson to be built.  I like the Hilson but having a Rambo and 
  an Atlantis it is hard to justify the purchase of a bike in the middle.
 
  Change is inevitable and I hope that Riv continues to sell Lugged steel 
  bike for a long time.  I am very glad that I have my bikes because the new 
  Riv's with limited sizes and sloping top tubes are not as close to my 
  vision of what a bike should be.  Hopefully they will maintain a few frames 
  like the Hilson for those of us who appreciate a more classic shaped frame. 
   If the economy improves maybe I will buy a Hilson or a Roadeo because I 
  would really like to ride Brevets on a 32mm tire.   I also hope that they 
  do not completely forget those of us who supported them in the early years.
 
  I think I will pour a nice glass of wine, sit in the garage and admire my 
  bikes.
 
  Larry Powers
 
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Re: [RBW] 650b Rambouillet was: Feeling Abondoned

2010-01-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 07:39 -0500, Larry Powers wrote:
 If I recall correctly the Rambo is not a could candidate for a 650b
 conversion becuase it has low bottom bracket to start with.  Someone
 let me know if this is not true.

The Rambouillet does indeed have a low bottom bracket -- and it was
designed for 28mm tires.  No matter which 650B you put in there, even
the Hetre, there'd be additional drop; and I'm not at all certain
there's clearance for a Hetre.  

On the other hand, it's not just bottom bracket drop, it's the
combination of bottom bracket drop + crank length that causes the pedal
strike problem.  If you used shorter cranks, you could compensate to
some extent.



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Re: [RBW] 650b Rambouillet was: Feeling Abondoned

2010-01-13 Thread Bruce
It has less BB drop than an Atlantis or a Hilsen.  As mentioned by others, 
crank length matters too. I assume you refer to the 700 size wheels. The 26 
wheel Ram will not accommodate a 650B wheel. I tried it :)




From: Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 6:39:15 AM
Subject: [RBW] 650b Rambouillet was: Feeling Abondoned

 
If I recall correctly the Rambo is not a could candidate for a 650b conversion 
becuase it has low bottom bracket to start with.  Someone let me know if this 
is not true.

Larry Powers 
 
Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain



 
 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:29:41 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Feeling Abondoned
 From: charles_v...@hotmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Couldn't you just convert to 650B wheels on the Ram and use longer
 reach brakes? You would get more clearance and a wide tire selection.
 Not sure on the bottom bracket height however.
 
 On Jan 12, 3:40 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I took a nice tour on my Atlantis this past summer, I commute daily on my 
  QB, my wife and I toured France on our Rambouillet and Bleriot (I also 
  completed PBP on my Rambo) and my wife likes to tool around our 
  neighborhood on her Glorius.  We like Riv bikes and have bought our share.  
  I know things change and can understand moving production to Taiwan because 
  of the exchange rate.  I guess the thing that pushed my buttons was to read 
  that the Ruffy Tuffy/Rolly Polly tires will be discontinued.  When I bought 
  my Rambouillet it was touted as unique because it could use a large 28mm 
  tire with fenders.  Ruffy Tuffy tires have been my tire of choice for this 
  bike and now Riv has abandoned both the bike and the tire.  I believe that 
  the Homer Hilson is the bike that Grant really intended to build when the 
  developed the Rambouillet.  But the parts available at the time placed 
  limits on the design.  The availability of longer and wider brakes finally 
  allowed
 the Hilson to be built.  I like the Hilson but having a Rambo and an Atlantis 
it is hard to justify the purchase of a bike in the middle.
 
  Change is inevitable and I hope that Riv continues to sell Lugged steel 
  bike for a long time.  I am very glad that I have my bikes because the new 
  Riv's with limited sizes and sloping top tubes are not as close to my 
  vision of what a bike should be.  Hopefully they will maintain a few frames 
  like the Hilson for those of us who appreciate a more classic shaped frame. 
   If the economy improves maybe I will buy a Hilson or a Roadeo because I 
  would really like to ride Brevets on a 32mm tire.   I also hope that they 
  do not completely forget those of us who supported them in the early years.
 
  I think I will pour a nice glass of wine, sit in the garage and admire my 
  bikes.
 
  Larry Powers
 
  Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain
 
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