Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
I'm writing from a library in the desert, as I ride from Mexico to Canada on the ACA Sierra Cascades route. You bet I use a Camelbak. I'm not wild about weight on my back, but I became a convert when I rode with a Camelbak in the heat of Denver summer last year. It was hot, it was dry, and when I took a drink I got cld water. I also like being able to drink easily on long climbs, of which there are plenty on the Sierra Cascades route. The Sierra and the Cascades are mountain ranges, as you may know but apparently a couple of people who signed up for this ride did not. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
a couple of people who signed up for this ride did not. LOL Anne! Please be careful and have fun out there. I hope you are riding your purple Atlantis. I'm wearing a Purple Soccer Jersey today (that my wife brought back from Spain), and when I pulled it on, I thought of your Purple-tlantis, with Camel Back http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7274186958/in/photostream On Friday, June 1, 2012 11:32:51 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm writing from a library in the desert, as I ride from Mexico to Canada on the ACA Sierra Cascades route. You bet I use a Camelbak. I'm not wild about weight on my back, but I became a convert when I rode with a Camelbak in the heat of Denver summer last year. It was hot, it was dry, and when I took a drink I got cld water. I also like being able to drink easily on long climbs, of which there are plenty on the Sierra Cascades route. The Sierra and the Cascades are mountain ranges, as you may know but apparently a couple of people who signed up for this ride did not. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NH46aKywglsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
That's the bike and Camelbak I'm using. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: a couple of people who signed up for this ride did not. LOL Anne! Please be careful and have fun out there. I hope you are riding your purple Atlantis. I'm wearing a Purple Soccer Jersey today (that my wife brought back from Spain), and when I pulled it on, I thought of your Purple-tlantis, with Camel Back http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7274186958/in/photostream On Friday, June 1, 2012 11:32:51 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm writing from a library in the desert, as I ride from Mexico to Canada on the ACA Sierra Cascades route. You bet I use a Camelbak. I'm not wild about weight on my back, but I became a convert when I rode with a Camelbak in the heat of Denver summer last year. It was hot, it was dry, and when I took a drink I got cld water. I also like being able to drink easily on long climbs, of which there are plenty on the Sierra Cascades route. The Sierra and the Cascades are mountain ranges, as you may know but apparently a couple of people who signed up for this ride did not. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NH46aKywglsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? YMMV but I hated it. 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? I didn't have a mold problem but the water coming out of it always tasted foul. Note that this was a Camelback and I've heard some of the other bladders don't impart so much nasty taste. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? Handlebar mount cages :) I actually end up throwing extras in the side pockets of my saddlebag since I love my handlebar bag too much to ditch it even for the convenience of handlebar mount waterbottles. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? Yes. Okay in cooler weather. 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? Yes. Prevention is to take it apart to clean, and to store it in the freezer. 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? If you just want capacity, I'd recommend bottles of water in a pannier or trunk rack as a better alternative. Horace. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
Patrick, I use a Camelback MULE on long rides and on day hikes. Just like everything else in life, it is going to have pluses and minuses. The bladder and hose can mold, either store it full or put something inside to hold it open so air flows inside. A cleaning brush helps for the tube, it looks like a flexible bore brush for a rifle. Its going to take some getting used to, its alot of weight on your back and it will definitely add to whatever sweating that you do. I like them, but like I said, only on longer rides. Having 100 ounces of water is nice, I find that I end up drinking more. Also, because I don't enjoy cleaning it out, no sports drinks or anything other than water ever goes in mine. Scott On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle That's a lot of water, but everyone's needs are different. When I lived in dry, hot (though likely not ABQ hot) Missoula, I'd drink half a bottle, do a 17-mile evening loop, and then have the other half on the porch when I got back. I carried the half bottle, but only in case a mechanical or something delayed me. I never much felt like drinking on a short, hard ride like that. I should mention that was a flat course. Didn't mean that as admonishing you for drinking, just thinking back to similar rides. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? If you start with ice in the bladder, it feels marvelous for the first 10 miles or so. I eventually added some closed cell foam for longer rides so I wasn't heating up my water supply. I used a really light combo: REI Flash 18 pack + 2L (I think, or is it 2.5L?) MSR Cloudliner. It carried well enough that I forgot it after a while. The nice thing is it gets lighter as you drink. 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? Mine never did in two years of continuous use. I just rinsed, drained, and hung it up with the cap off. Always tasted better than bike bottle water. Again, that was in a dry climate. I haven't used it much since moving to Oregon. 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? I liked the combo I had, although to be honest I just grabbed both off the scratch and dent table at REI. The combo is only a pound and the pack is useful for unexpected roadside produce and such. Camelbacks I've handled seemed way overbuilt for road biking to me. Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. I ended up loving the little Flash pack with and without the bladder. I'd pay full price to replace with the same when mine finally gives out. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? Probably, but the bladder is different and kind of fun. It's also come in handy on a couple of bike camping trips when I've wanted to load up on water before a dry stretch to camp. I wouldn't have tried it except for the good deal (think it was $30 total), but now I think they have their place. Still not sure I'd want one for an evening fun road ride, though. Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
I've have three Camels and had a different brand prior to that. Camelbacks (the term has become ubiquitous for all hydration packs) all have several characteristics that are somewhat independent of one another, yet all demand consideration. How much water do you go through when you ride (and you must consider how you react to heat), and is that really enough? I drink WAY more water using a pack than I do with bottles. That's probably a good thing. and... Is dehydration something you tolerate better that the compromise of putting up with more heat, weight and sweat on your back? Frankly, I use the packs for hiking or mtn biking, but I use bottles on the road bike. You don't feel as hot or sweaty in a more upright position, probably due to either taking it off more frequently (hiking) or less pressure and contact (mtn biking). On a road ride on really hot days (100+) I will often forgo comfort for safety by bucking-up and taking a 100 oz pack with ice cubes and water in it. On a solid ride you will drain it in no time and be very happy you don't start hallucinating from the heat. But maybe that's just me. On cooler, shorter rides bottles are usually fine. Just know what your body needs and will tolerate, then don't deny it. On 5/31/2012 12:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water. bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Advice on Camelbacks
On May 31, 2012, at 2:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water. So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've never used one. My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term) on your back on a hot day? Yes. IMHO, YMMV. 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold? Yes. Cleaning kits are available which include a disinfectant and a plastic doohickey that goes into the bladder to expand it to air dry. 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any? Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back. Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket? IMHO yes. Or, as I prefer, two water bottles on the bike. Better to have the bike carry a load. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
