Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Patrick Moore
For me, at any rate, the flip-down/flip-up Steer Stopper would be useful in
the grocery store to momentarily park your bike against the soup cans or
Orowheat while shopping. Not sure it's worth $100 to me, but it's worth
thinking about.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:00 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for velcro straps. Every bike has one wrapped around the handlebar. Use
> it to hold your front brake lever and B.O.B.'s your uncle!
> -Kai
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:09:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Another product that fails to meet the "no user action required"
>> requirement is a Shimano headset locker for city bikes.  Google "HP-NX10
>> headset locker".  I haven't used that product.  I use velcro straps when I
>> need to prevent wheel flop.  I leave the right length velcro strap
>> permanently attached to each of my two tandems, which are the bikes that
>> most require this kind of thing.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-8 Steve Cole wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do
>>> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
>>> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight
>>> and firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do
>>> anything to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply
>>> lower the retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it
>>> in the holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to
>>> install.
>>>
>>>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I
>>> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I
>>> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing
>>> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the
>>> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves
>>> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>>>
>>> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have
>>> no relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>>>
>>> Steve Cole
>>> Arlington, VA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>>>
 I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel
 can't roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers.

 IanA

 On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the
> aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to
> strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the
> front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall
> under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's
> feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:
>
>> Besides what the subject says...
>>
>> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular
>> kickstand that:
>>
>>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a
>>flickstand)
>>- Isn't dangerous
>>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>>- Can be a DIY solution
>>
>> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob B.
>> Brooklyn, NY
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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
+1 for velcro straps. Every bike has one wrapped around the handlebar. Use 
it to hold your front brake lever and B.O.B.'s your uncle!
-Kai

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:09:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Another product that fails to meet the "no user action required" 
> requirement is a Shimano headset locker for city bikes.  Google "HP-NX10 
> headset locker".  I haven't used that product.  I use velcro straps when I 
> need to prevent wheel flop.  I leave the right length velcro strap 
> permanently attached to each of my two tandems, which are the bikes that 
> most require this kind of thing.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-8 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do 
>> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
>> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight 
>> and firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do 
>> anything to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply 
>> lower the retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it 
>> in the holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to 
>> install.
>>
>>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I 
>> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I 
>> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing 
>> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the 
>> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves 
>> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>>
>> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no 
>> relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>>
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, VA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't 
>>> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers. 
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the 
 aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to 
 strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the 
 front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall 
 under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's 
 feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).

 On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:

> Besides what the subject says...
>
> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular 
> kickstand that:
>
>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a 
>flickstand)
>- Isn't dangerous
>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>- Can be a DIY solution
>
> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob B.
> Brooklyn, NY
>
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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Josh Brown
voile straps work well but of course don't meet at least two of the
requirements op listed

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 1:26 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This is brilliant. I must order one, assuming they have it for 1" threaded
> headsets, and that I have enough room for the spacer mount.
>
> The Shimano locking headset would also be an option, but installation is
> more involved and, I assume, more problematical? 2003 Ultegra cartridge
> headset for 1" threaded steerer?
>
> $99 versus, what, $40? Tho' I don't see the Shimano device for sale
> currently.
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:02 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do
>> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
>> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight
>> and firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do
>> anything to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply
>> lower the retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it
>> in the holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to
>> install.
>>
>>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I
>> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I
>> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing
>> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the
>> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves
>> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>>
>> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no
>> relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>>
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, VA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't
>>> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers.
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the
 aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to
 strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the
 front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall
 under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's
 feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).

 On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:

> Besides what the subject says...
>
> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular
> kickstand that:
>
>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a
>flickstand)
>- Isn't dangerous
>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>- Can be a DIY solution
>
> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob B.
> Brooklyn, NY
>
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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Patrick Moore
This is brilliant. I must order one, assuming they have it for 1" threaded
headsets, and that I have enough room for the spacer mount.

The Shimano locking headset would also be an option, but installation is
more involved and, I assume, more problematical? 2003 Ultegra cartridge
headset for 1" threaded steerer?

$99 versus, what, $40? Tho' I don't see the Shimano device for sale
currently.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:02 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Bob,
> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do
> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight and
> firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do anything
> to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply lower the
> retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it in the
> holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to install.
>
>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I
> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I
> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing
> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the
> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves
> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>
> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no
> relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>
> Steve Cole
> Arlington, VA
>
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>
>> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't
>> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the
>>> aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to
>>> strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the
>>> front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall
>>> under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's
>>> feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:
>>>
 Besides what the subject says...

 I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular
 kickstand that:

- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a
flickstand)
- Isn't dangerous
- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
- Can be a DIY solution

 Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!

 Thanks,
 Bob B.
 Brooklyn, NY

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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Jack Barnes
The 'Headset Locker' seems like a great solution, if you have enough extra 
length on your steerer tube.


On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:09:06 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Another product that fails to meet the "no user action required" 
> requirement is a Shimano headset locker for city bikes.  Google "HP-NX10 
> headset locker".  I haven't used that product.  I use velcro straps when I 
> need to prevent wheel flop.  I leave the right length velcro strap 
> permanently attached to each of my two tandems, which are the bikes that 
> most require this kind of thing.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-8 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do 
>> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
>> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight 
>> and firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do 
>> anything to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply 
>> lower the retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it 
>> in the holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to 
>> install.
>>
>>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I 
>> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I 
>> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing 
>> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the 
>> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves 
>> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>>
>> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no 
>> relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>>
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, VA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't 
>>> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers. 
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the 
 aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to 
 strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the 
 front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall 
 under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's 
 feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).

 On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:

> Besides what the subject says...
>
> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular 
> kickstand that:
>
>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a 
>flickstand)
>- Isn't dangerous
>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>- Can be a DIY solution
>
> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob B.
> Brooklyn, NY
>
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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Another product that fails to meet the "no user action required" 
requirement is a Shimano headset locker for city bikes.  Google "HP-NX10 
headset locker".  I haven't used that product.  I use velcro straps when I 
need to prevent wheel flop.  I leave the right length velcro strap 
permanently attached to each of my two tandems, which are the bikes that 
most require this kind of thing.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-8 Steve Cole wrote:

> Bob,
> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do 
> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight and 
> firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do anything 
> to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply lower the 
> retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it in the 
> holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to install.
>
>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I 
> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I 
> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing 
> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the 
> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves 
> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>
> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no 
> relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>
> Steve Cole
> Arlington, VA
>
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>
>> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't 
>> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers. 
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the 
>>> aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to 
>>> strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the 
>>> front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall 
>>> under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's 
>>> feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:
>>>
 Besides what the subject says...

 I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular 
 kickstand that:

- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a 
flickstand)
- Isn't dangerous
- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
- Can be a DIY solution

 Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!

 Thanks,
 Bob B.
 Brooklyn, NY

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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Steve Cole
Bob,
My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do 
what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper 
[https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight and 
firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do anything 
to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply lower the 
retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it in the 
holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to install.

 I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I 
use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I 
carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing 
the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the 
front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves 
lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.

I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no 
relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.

Steve Cole
Arlington, VA


On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:

> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't 
> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers. 
>
> IanA
>
> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the 
>> aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to 
>> strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the 
>> front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall 
>> under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's 
>> feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:
>>
>>> Besides what the subject says...
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular 
>>> kickstand that:
>>>
>>>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a 
>>>flickstand)
>>>- Isn't dangerous
>>>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>>>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>>>- Can be a DIY solution
>>>
>>> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob B.
>>> Brooklyn, NY
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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-14 Thread Ian A
I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't 
roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers. 

IanA

On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the aisles 
> -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to strap your 
> pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the front wheel 
> flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall under your and 
> passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's feet's? Passers' bys' 
> feets'? help!).
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:
>
>> Besides what the subject says...
>>
>> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular 
>> kickstand that:
>>
>>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a 
>>flickstand)
>>- Isn't dangerous
>>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>>- Can be a DIY solution
>>
>> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob B.
>> Brooklyn, NY
>>
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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-13 Thread Patrick Moore
+1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the aisles
-- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to strap your
pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the front wheel
flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall under your and
passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's feet's? Passers' bys'
feets'? help!).

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:

> Besides what the subject says...
>
> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular
> kickstand that:
>
>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a flickstand)
>- Isn't dangerous
>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>- Can be a DIY solution
>
> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob B.
> Brooklyn, NY
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[RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

2020-12-13 Thread Bob B
Besides what the subject says...

I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular kickstand 
that:

   - Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a flickstand)
   - Isn't dangerous
   - Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
   - Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
   - Can be a DIY solution

Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!

Thanks,
Bob B.
Brooklyn, NY

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