[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[William deRosset]

Dear Julian, 

A tone deaf rider for sure. A response like, "Well, the proof of the bike is in 
the riding," and a pointed change of topic would be my strategy. Or a change of 
position in the double paceline might be in order. A gentle roll off the front 
sounds like your response. I am just not that fast/competitive these days.

I get a very few comments on the club runs like yours, but if they continue 
with the distance events, then they will figure it out. I ordinarily will point 
positive, and answer questions straight. Sometimes the interlocutor is just 
expressing ignorance and curiosity.

Cheers,

Will

William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO


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Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Jim Bronson]

I'd let him know that "STEEL IS REAL!!!"

:D

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Julian  wrote:

> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!)
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?,"
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two.
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how
> best to deal with people like that.
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal
> compared to this joker. How do you respond?
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
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[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[jeffrey kane]

Mark, that's funny-- I used to ride with the ABC guys, too (but not in about 8 
or more years now). I remember the president being a really tall guy named 
Doug. He rode one of those wacky Ti Colnago's with the double down tube and 
there was a mix of what I'd consider Bobish types and common Freds. I, at the 
time was an absolute Fred in the heyday of my racing days so I was always 
amused by the "old" dudes on the old bikes ... 

As for the unsolicited comments: it wasn't until I bought my first 650b bike 
and read some of the cyclotouring/rando history articles in BQ that I came to 
realize just how little I really knew about cycling. 

Last time I did a club ride (three summers ago) I was on my "old" Giant TCR and 
23's. I had already drank the 650b x 42 cool aid at that point but was at the 
shore and bored and figured what the hell  well, the group leader (a bike 
shop manager) gave me grief over not having my tires inflated enough. I took a 
deep breath and thought "wow, really?" and proceeded to discuss the pro trend 
towards bigger tires (like, even 25's) -- he thought I was crazy but I insisted 
bigger tires were in his future as a shop guy. The blank stare back was 
priceless …

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[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Kainalu]

There's always this- (trigger warning: bike on bike violence)

https://youtu.be/GpwxdvuOMQA

-Kai
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Garth]

I can lie to anyone about anything, and that lying includes why this is better 
or worse than that, I am right and you are wrong, and continue to lie by giving 
evidence to support my claim and deny yours.   Huh.  That feels pretty crappy, 
but there I go teĺling another lie of excuses ! Huh.   I can fool the world and 
even myself , for awhile.. but I can never ever fool my heart.  The heart 
knows nothing of this polarizing of right and wrong, good and bad, superioŕ and 
inferior..it is all meaningless because it all speaks of everything the 
heart is not and never could possibly be, limited in any way. Pure.   

Anyone that disagrè with this would be like an echo of self lying, the futility 
of claiming the impossible is possible. 

So I ride my bicycle this day and live my life from my heart. just like 
being in love. Not the kind of love hat is afraid of it going away, but the 
love that is irrevocably with me and all there is of "me".   It's the darndest 
thing...   smiling

Here is as good any other here , so here  is actually as wonderful and as 
possible here. Huh.   How bout that..

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Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Julian]

Heh! I'm surprised he did not comment on the fact I carry a full sized 
frame pump instead of CO2! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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> So there's always this: https://youtu.be/GpwxdvuOMQA?t=1m22s 
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:06 PM, dougP  
> wrote: 
> > "So why would you be interested in my old steel tank?" 
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> > Dougp 
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[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

Offering unsolicited advice is the definition of a control freak

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[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Joe Bernard]

I realize most Rivsters aspire to a higher calling of peace, but I'm not that 
guy. My response: "In what world does it make sense to you to talk shit about 
my bike? Go ahead, I'll wait." 

I'll put some effort into suffering fools gladly. Morons get no such grace. 

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Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Patrick Moore]

My Rivendells always get "That's a cool bike!" reactions, here in ABQ. If I
were in your situation, I'd have told the idiot, "You must be new to
cycling" or "Is your name Fred?"

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Julian  wrote:

> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!)
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?,"
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two.
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how
> best to deal with people like that.
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal
> compared to this joker. How do you respond?
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
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Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[cyclotourist]

So there's always this: https://youtu.be/GpwxdvuOMQA?t=1m22s

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:06 PM, dougP  wrote:
> "So why would you be interested in my old steel tank?"
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> Dougp
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Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[dougP]

"So why would you be interested in my old steel tank?"

Dougp

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Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Steve Palincsar]

On 04/18/2016 09:42 PM, Julian wrote:
I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), 
enjoying the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I 
do not really know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively 
normal for me!)  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you 
get that relic?," "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club 
look bad," and a few other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two.


I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that 
Rivs have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It 
was the right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes 
of this I got fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. 
I'm not sure how best to deal with people like that.


I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
compared to this joker. How do you respond?




I think that would have called for what the diplomats call a "frank and 
free exchange of views."



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[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Julian]

I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect spring 
day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying the day 
and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really know 
(those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!)  rode up 
on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," "that thing 
must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few other choice 
bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 

I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
best to deal with people like that. 

I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
compared to this joker. How do you respond? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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