Re: [RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
I think there was another thread along these lines that may have been more appropriate but I can’t find it. This article, which was a link in a bikeforums thread, seemed interesting and relevant to some recent discussions here: http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Articles/SteelShootOut.pdf Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
In general, I entirely agree; except that I'd state it thus: one's physiology, riding habits, and bike choice lead one to become very comfortable and accustomed to certain torque and cadence combinations in given circumstances; again, +/- small differences. This is why, I think, I find anything beyond 1-t gaps in a very narrow cruising range (say, 65" to 75") so annoying, while outside of that, I really don't care -- and this might also prove the reasonableness of such old, 3-speed hub gears that gave you the equivalent of 1-tooth steps and a total range of 15%. Funny -- I'm out of shape now, but when I am reasonably in shape, I use a relatively small range even for long hill climbs. 70" or 75" more or less for flatland cruising, but no lower than 60" or perhaps 55" on a bad day for the long Tramway climb; and often 60 and 65" instead, since I prefer to stand on the 1-mile "steep" section. On the other side, I dislike spinning up downhill, and rein it back to ~25 mph, which in a 76" gear is far lower than even 120 rpm. This dates back to my teenage years, when I had what I guess was a half-stepped Raleigh Sprite with 48/44 X 14-28. I was entirely ignorant and didn't know half step from crossover, so I kept it in the 48 all the time, since that was the "fast" ring. (Actually, it dates from my first build, everything entirely wrong, which had a single ~90" gear. I only walked the ~ 25% steepest sections. On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 11:58 AM Justin, Oakland wrote: > I often think that there’s also a speed at which we feel comfortable. Like > Xmph feels good so we naturally settle in around there +/- a small amount. > Maybe this is cadence maybe it’s effort maybe it’s just internal > equilibrium. > > The subconscious imcan be powerful > > -J > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ** ** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
Was it a mustard Joe? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
I often think that there’s also a speed at which we feel comfortable. Like Xmph feels good so we naturally settle in around there +/- a small amount. Maybe this is cadence maybe it’s effort maybe it’s just internal equilibrium. The subconscious imcan be powerful -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
I think we'd all be surprised to learn how narrow the window is for our natural riding pace. A few pounds and a couple minutes doesn't mean much unless you're in France chasing a jersey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
I have in the past been distressed* to notice that my times on at least many rides over similar hilly routes were as fast or almost so on the 30+-lb Fargo with Big Apple tires as on the 18 lb Riv fixed gofast. I put this down to the fact that while climbing on the fixie was considerably faster, going down was faster on the Fargo by an even greater margin. ~20 mile rides with numerous 1/2 to 1-mile long climbs; say 5 miles of climbing overall. (Northern Rio Rancho.) *Now* I am distressed to find (or think I find; haven't bothered to time closely) that my Matthews with 20 psi 700C X 60 Big Ones is as fast on the flats as my Rivs, which I put down to similar riding position and excessively excellent rolling qualities of the Big Ones. *Situational irony and verbal irony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
Its pretty cool to see your data verifies two similar bikes with the same tires on an uber-flat course will be about the same speed. Get those bikes pointed uphill and I’m sure we’d see a difference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
On the few occations I’ve timed my ride and then compared times between Quickbeam and Hunqabeam, they are nearly the same (within a minute for a 70 minute climb). The Quickbeam is faster on the roads, Hunqabeam faster on the trails. The difference is 2-3 minutes, whch then gets made up or lost on the trail or road. Aside from frame differences, the only differences are the Hunqabeam has panniers and wider/heavier tires. Both are fixed (Hunqabem geared down roughly 10” vs QB), Albastache bars, same pedals, same engine, similar weather pattern on test days. As others have said, far from scientific (too many variables to account for, and no repetition). Still, I was laughing. A new experience for me. I rather like it. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
When I've helped riders find a more comfortable position, they have gained speed, despite losing a little aerodynamic efficiency. I have an upright Rambouillet with mustache bars high up and a drop bar waterford in lightweight tubing. Both bikes have 1 1/2" tires. I am about 1 1/2 mph faster on the drop bar bike. Not enough to matter at all. I do like riding different bikes though so the enjoyment factor makes it worthwhile to keep more than one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
Absolutely not scientific but I have recently had the occasion to ride the exact same 6 mile trip twice a day 3 days in a row on 3 Very different bikes. A Brompton, a 1952 Raleigh 3 speed, and a ‘75 Motobecane Grand Record. No speedometer, but rode equally comfortably brisk, what felt like the same effort. . ( one day was windy ). It felt like there was a huge time difference that just wasn’t there. All trips were within a 2 minute window. Apparently once you have a nice round tire full of air you are 98% there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
Bravo for objectivity, Ash. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Appaloosa vs road bike - (pointless) 19 mile commute time comparison
One feels faster bouncing off bumps, one goes just as fast plowing right over them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
