Re: [RBW] Atlantis vs Appaloosa

[René Sterental]

This thread has touched a few sensitive issues in me, and you've seen I'm
not too good at managing them...

- Want vs. Need
- Want/Need it now vs. Can/should wait
- It's perfect now vs It's no longer perfect
- Fiscal discipline

Very interesting range of responses from everyone, there are people happy
with one bike, there are people happy with n+1 bikes and there are some
who've agreed to manage it by keeping the same n number of bikes, so when
one comes, one must go.

As for Kellie's original post, while I'm not the one who can certainly
answer his question, I can certainly say that those two original Rivendells
I purchased, the Homer and the Atlantis, have had an incredible staying
power throughout all my evolutions, changes and preferences. They are super
adaptable and can be set-up as almost anything anyone would want, except
super light bikes.

I haven't ridden the Apaloosa, so I cannot comment on it vs. the Atlantis.
But the aesthetic and emotional components of getting a "dream" bike vs. a
"just to ride" bike are certainly very powerful and if one can understand
the first two points I made above, truly understand them, the answer
usually becomes very clear and one has no regret.

These aren't rational decisions, as much as one can pretend they are. Like
my choices to go for a custom or to change the 58 Betty for the 60 Cheviot
primarily for the seat post size that could let me fit on it even better,
these are emotional at core decisions that one can either finance or not.

If one can, then it's just a hobby one enjoys; if one can't, then one
either does the right thing to wait until one can finance it responsibly,
or one chooses to behave irresponsibly.

Do what you think is right for you.

Get the one you really want or get what's available now. What will you
regret the most? Only you can answer that.

René

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Kellie  wrote:

> Hi Chris: yes I saw your AHH up on the list. No more Rivendells? For price
> comparison, how old is your AHH?
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[RBW] Atlantis vs Appaloosa

[Joe Bernard]

I kinda see the others' point about getting the model you really want, but I'm 
going to vouch for the Appaloosa anyway 'cause I own one and it's great. I 
consider the sloping toptube and long stays to be an evolution from the 
Atlantis, making Appaloosa the more "modern" interpretation of that earlier 
design, if you will. 

The jury is still out on whether longer stays are an improvement for trail 
riding, but the better standover clearance *definitely* is.  Based on your 
interest in a 51 Atlantis, I assume you'd fit a 46 Appaloosa. This one here is 
in the lovely blue I bought, which is a discontinued color. Of course there's 
mustard frames, too, if you'd rather go that way.

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-appa-complete-0001x.htm

I think it's a wonderful bicycle with a very cool fork crown, and it's built to 
handle loaded touring. I'd ride it on fire trails any day, and intend to do so 
at Mt. Diablo this week. 

Yes, you should wait for an Atlantis if you have your heart set on one, but I 
don't think the Appaloosa sacrifices a single thing to that more expensive 
frame. In a couple ways my Blue Joe is the better bike. In my opinion. 

Joe Bernard 
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Atlantis vs Appaloosa

[Kellie]

 Just wondering what you guys think?  I really want an Atlantis but a new one 
is out of my budget.  Intended use is mostly off road like fire trails, cross 
country riding; NOT crazy downhill, rock gardens etc.  Since the Appaloosa is 
supposed to be somewhere between the Hillborne and the Hunq, I'm wondering if 
an Appaloosa would be an appropriate  substitute?

 Big price difference between the two. I'm sure there is a tubing difference. 
But the Appaloosa has the Hunq fork so that's plenty strong. Maybe better 
cosmetics, detailed lugging on the Atlantis.  So you say why not get a Hunq? 
But if I'm going to pop for a new Hunq I might as will buy a new Atlantis. What 
do you think?

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