Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-11 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Excellent feedback guys!  Thank you very much.  Jeffrey the pictures are
particularly helpful and Steve as always your experience with this exact
frame is great to hear.

I haven't gotten up close with Honjo's but I was kind of blown away by
Berthouds on several of Rob Perks bikes earlier this year (as blown away as
one can be by fenders that is... ). The stiffness and solid installs really
stood out. $74 vice $150 doesn't hurt either.

In thinking I may try out the Berthouds and if I really am not comfortable
with the clearance for 42's I could go to 38's or swap them to another
frame.

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RE: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-11 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
The second gen of those fenders are quite nice quality, too, with good 
hardware.  Peter Weigle has used them on several of his Hetres-shod bikes.

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I have used the VO Zeppelin fenders with plenty of clearance. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-11 Thread Anton Tutter
I have VO Zepps on two bikes with 42mm Hetres, and they really are just 
about the ideal fender for that tire.  Plenty of clearance, but they don't 
look fat and oversized, either.  No issues on either setup, both of which 
have seen very rough, rocky and fast gravel riding.  At half the price of 
Honjos, they are a bargain.

Anton


On Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:16:50 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

 The second gen of those fenders are quite nice quality, too, with good 
 hardware.  Peter Weigle has used them on several of his Hetres-shod bikes. 

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 I have used the VO Zeppelin fenders with plenty of clearance. 

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[RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread Tony DeFilippo
After riding a bike with these stainless beauties and given that I have some 
time to 're-imagine' my Saluki I've got two fender questions for the group;

1. Anyone mounted the 50mm Berthoud fenders (650b) on a saluki/ahh using 42mm 
tires, any issues with clearance at the stays or unacceptable clearance for the 
tire, or other install notes/thoughts?

2. Anyone had their Berthoud fenders powdercoated/painted? If so did you coat 
the fender stays as well.  Thoughts or opinions on coated/painted to match 
fenders vs shiny metal finish?

Thanks!

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 09/10/2014 07:18 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

After riding a bike with these stainless beauties and given that I have some 
time to 're-imagine' my Saluki I've got two fender questions for the group;

1. Anyone mounted the 50mm Berthoud fenders (650b) on a saluki/ahh using 42mm 
tires, any issues with clearance at the stays or unacceptable clearance for the 
tire, or other install notes/thoughts?


I used to have Berthoud fenders on that very Saluki when I first got it, 
with Col de la Vie 38mm tires.  When I switched to Hetres I switched to 
wide Honjos.  I don't think Berthouds are wide enough for a 42mm tire.






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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread Bill
As you know I hung on to the Honjos when we swapped Salukis.  They've 
acquired more beausage while in my care since I got them from Steve.  In 
spite of my inability to install them with JPW-perfect fender lines they 
have great fit and function hovering over the red Hetres on the 
AgapanthuSaluki.  If I were fender shopping for replacements I'd buy the 
very same ones.

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:51:59 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 09/10/2014 07:18 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: 
  After riding a bike with these stainless beauties and given that I have 
 some time to 're-imagine' my Saluki I've got two fender questions for the 
 group; 
  
  1. Anyone mounted the 50mm Berthoud fenders (650b) on a saluki/ahh using 
 42mm tires, any issues with clearance at the stays or unacceptable 
 clearance for the tire, or other install notes/thoughts? 

 I used to have Berthoud fenders on that very Saluki when I first got it, 
 with Col de la Vie 38mm tires.  When I switched to Hetres I switched to 
 wide Honjos.  I don't think Berthouds are wide enough for a 42mm tire. 







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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tony

If you have Steve's Saluki, then you have cantilevers.  That will give you some 
extra headroom.

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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 09/10/2014 10:08 PM, Bill wrote:
As you know I hung on to the Honjos when we swapped Salukis.  They've 
acquired more beausage while in my care since I got them from Steve. 
 In spite of my inability to install them with JPW-perfect fender 
lines they have great fit and function hovering over the red Hetres on 
the AgapanthuSaluki.  If I were fender shopping for replacements I'd 
buy the very same ones.


They're the Compass fluted Honjos, 58mm wide. 
http://www.compasscycle.com/fenders_650_fluted.html  $149


I did have to make some surgical alteration to the end of the fender to 
get it to fit at the chainstays, which is documented on my flickr site.  
It's possible a more skilled workman than me could have devised a way to 
get them to fit without cutting, and it's certain that said skilled 
workman could have done a much more elegant job if cutting was 
inevitable.  At least, you know in advance /something/ has to be done; I 
didn't find that out until well into the installation, and it was a real 
Holy $%^! What do I do now??? moment.


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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread justinaugust
I have used the VO Zeppelin fenders with plenty of clearance. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Fenders on Saluki/AHH

2014-09-10 Thread JL
When I had my Saluki, an early cantilever one, I used Berthoud 60mm stainless 
fenders. The 50mm model did not offer enough clearance on the sides of the 
Hetres for my tastes.  Perhaps a bike with more vertical clearance can work 
with the 50mm fenders easier.  Others have used them but I much prefer a 
flatter, wider fender profile. The fenders are often sold as 26x60mm. They work 
over 42-45mm 650b fenders with no hassle.  Keep in mind that you will need to 
trim the fork crown daruma to clear the tire. 

Jason
SF,CA

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After riding a bike with these stainless beauties and given that I have some 
 time to 're-imagine' my Saluki I've got two fender questions for the group;
 
 1. Anyone mounted the 50mm Berthoud fenders (650b) on a saluki/ahh using 42mm 
 tires, any issues with clearance at the stays or unacceptable clearance for 
 the tire, or other install notes/thoughts?
 
 2. Anyone had their Berthoud fenders powdercoated/painted? If so did you coat 
 the fender stays as well.  Thoughts or opinions on coated/painted to match 
 fenders vs shiny metal finish?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Tony
 
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