Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Patrick Moore]

I rather like the slow, sedate ticking of overridden pawls while pedaling
my AM hub; with SA 3 speeds you get pawl noise both coasting and pedaling.
But since I dligently oil the hub, the ticking is always very muted; I
should back off a bit to make the sound louder.

I forget if you get overriden pawl noise on fixed multispeed hubs; I guess
you do since the mechanism requires multiple interior drivers.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 1:19 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> My new-to-me Rohloff (I don't think it has many miles on it) seems eerily
> quiet so it's funny to hear others say they're loud. It has some ticking
> and buzzes and vibrations in various gears (or coasting) but not very loud
> and I love all of it.

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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Eric Daume]

I hate loud hubs. On my occasional ride on a bike with loud hubs, I find
myself avoiding coasting, soft pedaling just to avoid hearing the dang hub.
Then I get rid of the bike or wheel.

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person?
>
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Mr. Ray]

Rohloff hubs use 25 ml of Rohloff oil.  The oil acts as a lubricant and 
also a sound dampner especially when the internal gears are new.  Sometimes 
oil leaks out (sweat oil or laying the hub cog side down).  This is normal 
and doesn't mean the hub is damaged so with less oil inside the hub, there 
is more noise.  If you are not sure how much oil is inside your hub then do 
an oil change.  Anyway, once your hub has lots of miles, the noise will be 
gone even when there is less than 25ml in the hub.

 
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:19:04 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My new-to-me Rohloff (I don't think it has many miles on it) seems eerily 
> quiet so it's funny to hear others say they're loud. It has some ticking 
> and buzzes and vibrations in various gears (or coasting) but not very loud 
> and I love all of it. 
>
> I should emphasize I don't HATE my WI hub - it's light and pretty and 
> fabulous - I just thought I'd be more into the freewheeling noise. But it's 
> ok! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:20:52 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> I definitely don’t have that many miles on them  I’m still less than 
>> 1,000 miles on both of mine. I need to get out more…
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:45 PM, Mr. Ray  wrote:
>>
>> "My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like 
>> the hubs".
>>
>>
>>
>> This means you haven't put enough miles on them.  After 20,000 miles, 
>> they are silent.
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:09:58 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can 
>>> hear them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
>>> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to 
>>> switch.
>>>
>>> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like 
>>> the hubs.
>>>
>>> Robert a Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy 
>>> schmancy White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz 
>>> was the cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing 
>>> all the neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip 
>>> and cool and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Joe Bernard]

My new-to-me Rohloff (I don't think it has many miles on it) seems eerily 
quiet so it's funny to hear others say they're loud. It has some ticking 
and buzzes and vibrations in various gears (or coasting) but not very loud 
and I love all of it. 

I should emphasize I don't HATE my WI hub - it's light and pretty and 
fabulous - I just thought I'd be more into the freewheeling noise. But it's 
ok! 

Joe Bernard

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:20:52 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I definitely don’t have that many miles on them  I’m still less than 1,000 
> miles on both of mine. I need to get out more…
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:45 PM, Mr. Ray  wrote:
>
> "My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like 
> the hubs".
>
>
>
> This means you haven't put enough miles on them.  After 20,000 miles, they 
> are silent.
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:09:58 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can 
>> hear them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
>> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to 
>> switch.
>>
>> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
>> hubs.
>>
>> Robert a Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy 
>> schmancy White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz 
>> was the cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing 
>> all the neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip 
>> and cool and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>>
>>
>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Overheard — A regular customer standing at the front display counter in 
venerable, high end bike shop to the shop manager: ‘Hey, you used to have 
some nice Chris King hubs in there but I don’t see them now. What happened?

Manager: ‘Yeah, we did, but we had to remove them. They were keeping all 
the other hubs up at night!’

[budda bum!]

David Lipsky (Slightly annoyed by his Pacenti rear wheel’s freehub while 
riding in mid-70s weather today) in Berkeley, CA


On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:20:52 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I definitely don’t have that many miles on them  I’m still less than 1,000 
> miles on both of mine. I need to get out more…
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:45 PM, Mr. Ray  wrote:
>
> "My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like 
> the hubs".
>
>
>
> This means you haven't put enough miles on them.  After 20,000 miles, they 
> are silent.
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:09:58 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can 
>> hear them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
>> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to 
>> switch.
>>
>> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
>> hubs.
>>
>> Robert a Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy 
>> schmancy White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz 
>> was the cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing 
>> all the neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip 
>> and cool and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>>
>>
>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[rltilley]

I definitely don’t have that many miles on them  I’m still less than 1,000 
miles on both of mine. I need to get out more…

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:45 PM, Mr. Ray  wrote:
> 
> "My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
> hubs".
> 
> This means you haven't put enough miles on them.  After 20,000 miles, they 
> are silent.
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:09:58 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can hear 
>> them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
>> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to switch.
>> 
>> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
>> hubs.
>> 
>> Robert a Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
 
>>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
>>> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
>>> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
>>> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
>>> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Mr. Ray]

"My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
hubs".

This means you haven't put enough miles on them.  After 20,000 miles, they 
are silent.
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:09:58 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can 
> hear them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to 
> switch.
>
> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
> hubs.
>
> Robert a Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>
>
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

I also prefer the quieter hubs.
https://youtu.be/n03g8nsaBro


On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 9:09 PM  wrote:

> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can
> hear them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no
> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to
> switch.
>
> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the
> hubs.
>
> Robert a Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person?
>
>
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Joe Mullins]

I really wanted to try one of the silent Onyx hubs that Riv had a few weeks ago 
but couldn’t bring myself to spend the money on them. Has anyone tried the 
Silver hubs? How do those sound?

And I certainly like hearing the loud hubs…when they are on a bike sneaking up 
behind me! It seems like at least once a week I’ll get the crap scared out of 
me by someone failing to warn of their approach as I gaze around enjoying the 
breeze and peace of quiet of my darn-close-to-silent Shimano hubs. 

Joe


> On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:09 PM, rltil...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can hear 
> them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to switch.
> 
> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
> hubs.
> 
> Robert a Tilley
> San Diego, CA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
>> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
>> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
>> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
>> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>> 
>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[rltilley]

I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can hear 
them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no mechanical 
benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to switch.

My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the hubs.

Robert a Tilley
San Diego, CA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Richard Rose]

I have White Industries hubs on my full suspension MTB. They are not as loud as 
Kings or i9’s but I do here them. Did not really bother me but I am amazed at 
the quietness of the Deore hubs on my Clem. I mean, they are silent! I had no 
idea.

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> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
> 
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
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[RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Joe Bernard]

Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 

Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 

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