Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-03 Thread Perry
Surprised that the granny would need replacement without the cog set needing it 
as well. Cogs are usually the first to go with a stretched chain--especially 
the smaller ones. 

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Just got back from the LBS. Chain was very stretched and after replacing 
it and a test ride it needed the granny cog replaced. I'm about to head out 
and see how she does on the wee waterfall ride. Thanks for your expertise!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:31:26 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before 
 this started happening.

 The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the chain 
 was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
 over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-02 Thread dougP
Consider a stainless steel granny.  They last much longer than aluminum.  

dougP

On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:17:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Just got back from the LBS. Chain was very stretched and after replacing 
 it and a test ride it needed the granny cog replaced. I'm about to head out 
 and see how she does on the wee waterfall ride. Thanks for your expertise!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:31:26 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before 
 this started happening.

 The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the chain 
 was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
 over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great idea, Doug. For now, I got what they gave me, but next time...

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:31:00 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:

 Consider a stainless steel granny.  They last much longer than aluminum.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:17:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Just got back from the LBS. Chain was very stretched and after 
 replacing it and a test ride it needed the granny cog replaced. I'm about 
 to head out and see how she does on the wee waterfall ride. Thanks for your 
 expertise!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:31:26 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before 
 this started happening.

 The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the 
 chain was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the 
 name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
 Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
 over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Checked receipt. Steel to replace steel. I've got one steely-spined granny! 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:33:10 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Great idea, Doug. For now, I got what they gave me, but next time...

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:31:00 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:

 Consider a stainless steel granny.  They last much longer than aluminum.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:17:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Just got back from the LBS. Chain was very stretched and after 
 replacing it and a test ride it needed the granny cog replaced. I'm about 
 to head out and see how she does on the wee waterfall ride. Thanks for your 
 expertise!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:31:26 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before 
 this started happening.

 The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the 
 chain was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the 
 name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in 
 lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
 Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
 over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
I got a grand chuckle out of the receipt labeling my bike as a Hunq 
Apillar Cross. And when I asked about if a particular book was a good one 
for area trails, the owner said, Well yeah, but that's for mountain 
biking. I said That's what I do. With that bike? with a look of wild 
wonder that such a thing could be done. Being counter-cultural affords 
multiple opportunities for amusement. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:50:29 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Checked receipt. Steel to replace steel. I've got one steely-spined 
 granny! Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:33:10 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Great idea, Doug. For now, I got what they gave me, but next time...

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:31:00 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:

 Consider a stainless steel granny.  They last much longer than 
 aluminum.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:17:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Just got back from the LBS. Chain was very stretched and after 
 replacing it and a test ride it needed the granny cog replaced. I'm about 
 to head out and see how she does on the wee waterfall ride. Thanks for 
 your 
 expertise!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:31:26 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before 
 this started happening.

 The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the 
 chain was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the 
 name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in 
 lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
 Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
 over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-02 Thread Philip Williamson
I think I consider you more parallel-cultural than counter-cultural. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:54:00 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I got a grand chuckle out of the receipt labeling my bike as a Hunq 
 Apillar Cross. And when I asked about if a particular book was a good one 
 for area trails, the owner said, Well yeah, but that's for mountain 
 biking. I said That's what I do. With that bike? with a look of wild 
 wonder that such a thing could be done. Being counter-cultural affords 
 multiple opportunities for amusement. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:50:29 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Checked receipt. Steel to replace steel. I've got one steely-spined 
 granny! Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:33:10 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Great idea, Doug. For now, I got what they gave me, but next time...

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:31:00 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:

 Consider a stainless steel granny.  They last much longer than 
 aluminum.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:17:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Just got back from the LBS. Chain was very stretched and after 
 replacing it and a test ride it needed the granny cog replaced. I'm about 
 to head out and see how she does on the wee waterfall ride. Thanks for 
 your 
 expertise!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:31:26 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months 
 before this started happening.

 The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the 
 chain was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the 
 name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when 
 well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise 
 in 
 lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
 Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. 
 I’m over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the chain
was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the name.


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over
 my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-11-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before this 
started happening.

The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the chain 
 was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the name.


 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over 
 my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
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[RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-10-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear 
that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens 
if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

Possible fixes would seem to be:
— remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
— monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my 
head on that one.
— Other ideas?

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-10-31 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/31/2013 06:35 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in 
lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.


Possible fixes would seem to be:
— remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
— monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
over my head on that one.

— Other ideas?


Bent chain ring tooth?


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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

2013-10-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Bent chain ring tooth?

Isn't that improbable on the granny?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:54:00 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 10/31/2013 06:35 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
  
 This isn�t happening when shifting, it�s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
 gear that it doesn�t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
 Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

  Possible fixes would seem to be: 
 � remove, clean, lube chain (it�s been 18 months)
 � monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I�m 
 over my head on that one.
 � Other ideas?
  

 Bent chain ring tooth?


 

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