[RBW] Derailer / Shifter Math for my Custom

2020-07-24 Thread Fullylugged
If you want to use indexing, use a shiftmate to cross match Shimano and Campy:  
 http://www.jtekengineering.com/shiftmate/

If you go friction, everything works with everything.  

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[RBW] Derailer / Shifter Math for my Custom

2020-07-23 Thread lconley
So after several months of inactivity on the assembly of my custom due to 
being busy on other things (selling house, selling 2 cars, moving, etc.), I 
am about ready to begin working on it again. I have an 11 speed Dura Ace 
12-28 cassette and an 11 speed Campagnolo Athena derailer. I have a bunch 
of shifters of all sorts, so I wondered if any of them would allow indexing 
of the mixed components. So my research says: the Shimano cassette has a 
cog spacing of 3.69 mm. The Campagnolo derailer has a shift ratio of 1.5. 
Divide the cog spacing by shift ratio to get required cable pull - 3.69 / 
1.5 = 2.46. A 9 speed Dura Ace bar end shifter (or Microshift 9 speed - of 
which I have both) has a cable pull of 2.5 - sounds like it might work if 
the shifters mount up to the head tube mounted shifter bosses. Both the 
derailer and the head tube shifter adapters have cable adjusters - so I 
should be able to select which nine of the 11 cogs I use by adjusting cable 
tension. The smallest nine give me 31 to 95 gear inches - plenty for 
Florida, the middle nine give me 28 to 87, the big nine give me 25 to 81 in 
case I venture into steeper territory (Rene Herse 42-26 crank).  I may just 
put Silver1s or Silver2s on and friction shift (25 to 95), but I will have 
to try the indexing just to see if my math is correct (the curse of being a 
mechanical engineer). 

Laing
Delray Beach FL

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