[RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread Forrest
Among those of you who now use downtube shifters (or have in the past), how 
many of you are confirmed fans of downtube shifting, and how many of you 
tried it as an experiment but then switched to a different shifting system 
that you felt was better? Oh, and any thoughts re downtube indexed vs. 
downtube friction would be welcome.

Thanks,  -- Forrest (Iowa City)

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Re: [RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread Rex Kerr
Interesting question.  I'm also curious how much frame size has to do with
DT shifter preferences.

I ride a ~67 cm frame and the reach to DT shifters is insane, making me
uncomfortable using them. For this reason I have a strong preference for
barend shifters.  I'm curious if this is true for other tall riders.

-Rex

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote:

 Among those of you who now use downtube shifters (or have in the past), how
 many of you are confirmed fans of downtube shifting, and how many of you
 tried it as an experiment but then switched to a different shifting system
 that you felt was better? Oh, and any thoughts re downtube indexed vs.
 downtube friction would be welcome.

 Thanks,  -- Forrest (Iowa City)

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Re: [RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread Horace
I noticed this about large frames too. I ride a 59cm with the bars a couple
inches below saddle height;  the reach to DT shifters is about the same as
it is for bar ends. So I prefer them on the downtube (7-speed friction and
9-speed indexed).

Horace.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting question.  I'm also curious how much frame size has to do with
 DT shifter preferences.

 I ride a ~67 cm frame and the reach to DT shifters is insane, making me
 uncomfortable using them. For this reason I have a strong preference for
 barend shifters.  I'm curious if this is true for other tall riders.

 -Rex


 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote:

 Among those of you who now use downtube shifters (or have in the past),
 how many of you are confirmed fans of downtube shifting, and how many of you
 tried it as an experiment but then switched to a different shifting system
 that you felt was better? Oh, and any thoughts re downtube indexed vs.
 downtube friction would be welcome.

 Thanks,  -- Forrest (Iowa City)

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Re: [RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread John Speare
I like indexed DT 8 speed shifting on my commuter and my long distance bike.
I guess I actually love it.

I'm generally moving towards indexing on most of my bikes:
-- trails bike (Rawland dSogn) has 8 speed brifters -- which I love for
technical climbing.
-- CX (RB-T) bike has single 8 speed brifter
-- mountain bike is indexed.

Until now, I didn't realize that I'd made such a transformation. I must say
though, that I do miss the feel of Suntour barcons, which I used to run
nearly exclusively on all drop-bar bikes.

My move to the dark side of indexing stated with the DT shifters though,
which index beautifully since there's only one loop in the housing.






On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote:

 Among those of you who now use downtube shifters (or have in the past), how
 many of you are confirmed fans of downtube shifting, and how many of you
 tried it as an experiment but then switched to a different shifting system
 that you felt was better? Oh, and any thoughts re downtube indexed vs.
 downtube friction would be welcome.

 Thanks,  -- Forrest (Iowa City)

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Re: [RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread René Sterental
I just put the DuraAce 9 speed downtube shifters on my 58 Hunqa. I run the
rear one on indexed mode and I actually like them a lot. Reach is not too
bad although I usually find myself coasting while I shift since I have to
remove one hand from the handlebar. At this time, I'd be hard pressed to say
if I prefer them on the downtube or on the stem quill as I have them on the
Atlantis right now: *http://tinyurl.com/3l9oxn5*

I don't think that if I was running Noodles or equivalent I'd put them on
the downtube but now the Homer is my only remaining bike with that setup and
I haven't ridden it in a while.

René

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Re: [RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread Tim McNamara
Downtube friction.  I guess I am a diehard, I used Shimano STI first and then 
Campy Ergo during the decade I raced, but after I stopped in 2000 I went back 
to downtube friction shifting.  It's just what I prefer, I suppose because 
that's what I grew up with.  I don't like all those cables going to the 
handlebars.

I have STI on our tandem, downtubers would be difficult as the braze-ons would 
have to be brazed on and I don't feel like ruining the paint. Besides, it's not 
like I am out there saying jeez, I HATE STI, why aren't their downtube 
shifters on this bike?!?  STI doesn't ruin the ride for me.  

It's a bike, not a fetish.  Or at least it ought to be.


On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Forrest wrote:

 Among those of you who now use downtube shifters (or have in the past), how 
 many of you are confirmed fans of downtube shifting, and how many of you 
 tried it as an experiment but then switched to a different shifting system 
 that you felt was better? Oh, and any thoughts re downtube indexed vs. 
 downtube friction would be welcome.

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Re: [RBW] Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-02 Thread Brewster Fong
  



  
 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Forrest ftm...@me.com wrote:

 Among those of you who now use downtube shifters (or have in the past), 
 how many of you are confirmed fans of downtube shifting, and how many of you 
 tried it as an experiment but then switched to a different shifting system 
 that you felt was better? Oh, and any thoughts re downtube indexed vs. 
 downtube friction would be welcome. 

 I went the opposite way. I used dt friction shifters for over 15 years. 
Used mostly Campy dt shifters - record, c-record and mavic retrofriction 
shifters shifting 7 and 9 speeds. Never had any problems.
 
Then I tried Campy ergo shifters and became a convert!!  Love the shifters 
and now have it on my two road bikes.  Good Luck!  

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