Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-21 Thread Ron Mc
No, I put in Stans and run the tire through a bit more tread.  Next time it 
flats, I replace it.  

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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I recall once, long before modern sealants, riding my mtb into a lot just
covered end to end with goathead plants, and walking out with uncounted
thorns in both tires. After patching some 15 holes in the first tube, I
gave up and tossed tires and tubes into the trash.

FWIW, I've done this also riding unprotected Big Apples, and ridden away
unscathed.


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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread Clayton.sf
happened to me too. almost tossed the tire, but instead I rolled it up and put 
it away. two years later I really needed a tire like it on short notice. Pulled 
it out, checked it again, found the offending thorn in 2 minutes and am still 
riding it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

 

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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Rim tape intact? No spokes poking thru to puncture tire?

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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread EasyRider
Thanks everyone. The stumper is that I do line up my valves and tire labels to 
better identify flats. It's just that the leak is incredibly slow And I just 
can't find it via submersion to help direct my search of the tire for the 
offending object. I do know that neither the originally punctured tube nor the 
replacement tube that went soft has a valve leak. That was my first guess and I 
stared at both valves under water for 5 minutes! That's when I thought, maybe 
there is a better way to spend my time ...

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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread Mark Anderson
Valves can also leak if the removable valve core is not screwed in tightly 
enough. Cores are often just slightly loose on new tubes. If your new tube 
doesn't have a removable core, then that's not the problem, but you know that. 

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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Back when I had to worry about goatheads (thank you so muc,h Orange Seal) I
used to run the pad of my thumb or forefinger along the inside of the
casing, since thorns would often break off on the outside but remain
sticking in on the inside. I'd usually feel what I couldn't see, and saved
myself a world of bother.

BTW, the trick to work these sharp bits out if the tread -- on the outside
-- is to flex the tread between thumb and forefinger; roll the tread from
side to side while you pinch it. That usually gets the little sharp things
to work their way out.

OTOH, if you locate the hole in the tube in reference to the valve, you
ought to be able to identify the general location of the puncturing agent.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 7:47 AM, EasyRider  wrote:

> Got a slow leak in a Big Ben yesterday (1st in ~4,000 miles on this tire)
> and went about fixing it. Flats are rare for me so I take my time finding
> the cause. I thought I had - a tiny wire on the inside of the tire, which I
> plucked and then finished checking for any others. I used a new tube and
> remounted. But today it was soft again so the wire I pulled was likely only
> a decoy! Rim tape and wheel and valve hole had no signs of pokies, so
> submerged the tube. No apparent leak, so the hole must be very small. The
> culprit must be an embedded wire, I think, but I cannot find it. I ride on
> city streets so it's not a goathead. The Big Ben is pretty thick, so it
> could be wire that reveals itself like a cat's claw.
>
> I'll try soaping the tube to find the hole and that should help narrow my
> search of the tire. But I'm tempted to just toss the tire and tube, since
> I've gotten my money's worth.
>
> So, toss it or look harder?
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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread Tim Gavin
Also, check the valve stem itself for leaks (they will leak if you don't
twist the presta nut closed) and the area where the valve stem is attached
to the tube.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Two thoughts:
>
> 1) I would try to save the tire. Look a little harder for the culprit.
>
> 2) This is a great argument for lining up the label on the tire with the
> valve stem. Makes it so much easier to locate things in the tire based on
> where the hole in the tube is. If the puncture is 90 degrees from the stem,
> look in those two places on the tire—so easy!
>
> —Eric
>
> > On Jun 20, 2018, at 6:47 AM, EasyRider  wrote:
> >
> > Got a slow leak in a Big Ben yesterday (1st in ~4,000 miles on this
> tire) and went about fixing it. Flats are rare for me so I take my time
> finding the cause. I thought I had - a tiny wire on the inside of the tire,
> which I plucked and then finished checking for any others. I used a new
> tube and remounted. But today it was soft again so the wire I pulled was
> likely only a decoy! Rim tape and wheel and valve hole had no signs of
> pokies, so submerged the tube. No apparent leak, so the hole must be very
> small. The culprit must be an embedded wire, I think, but I cannot find it.
> I ride on city streets so it's not a goathead. The Big Ben is pretty thick,
> so it could be wire that reveals itself like a cat's claw.
> >
> > I'll try soaping the tube to find the hole and that should help narrow
> my search of the tire. But I'm tempted to just toss the tire and tube,
> since I've gotten my money's worth.
> >
> > So, toss it or look harder?
> >
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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread Eric Norris
Two thoughts:

1) I would try to save the tire. Look a little harder for the culprit.

2) This is a great argument for lining up the label on the tire with the valve 
stem. Makes it so much easier to locate things in the tire based on where the 
hole in the tube is. If the puncture is 90 degrees from the stem, look in those 
two places on the tire—so easy!

—Eric

> On Jun 20, 2018, at 6:47 AM, EasyRider  wrote:
> 
> Got a slow leak in a Big Ben yesterday (1st in ~4,000 miles on this tire) and 
> went about fixing it. Flats are rare for me so I take my time finding the 
> cause. I thought I had - a tiny wire on the inside of the tire, which I 
> plucked and then finished checking for any others. I used a new tube and 
> remounted. But today it was soft again so the wire I pulled was likely only a 
> decoy! Rim tape and wheel and valve hole had no signs of pokies, so submerged 
> the tube. No apparent leak, so the hole must be very small. The culprit must 
> be an embedded wire, I think, but I cannot find it. I ride on city streets so 
> it's not a goathead. The Big Ben is pretty thick, so it could be wire that 
> reveals itself like a cat's claw.
> 
> I'll try soaping the tube to find the hole and that should help narrow my 
> search of the tire. But I'm tempted to just toss the tire and tube, since 
> I've gotten my money's worth.
> 
> So, toss it or look harder? 
> 
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[RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

2018-06-20 Thread EasyRider
Got a slow leak in a Big Ben yesterday (1st in ~4,000 miles on this tire) and 
went about fixing it. Flats are rare for me so I take my time finding the 
cause. I thought I had - a tiny wire on the inside of the tire, which I plucked 
and then finished checking for any others. I used a new tube and remounted. But 
today it was soft again so the wire I pulled was likely only a decoy! Rim tape 
and wheel and valve hole had no signs of pokies, so submerged the tube. No 
apparent leak, so the hole must be very small. The culprit must be an embedded 
wire, I think, but I cannot find it. I ride on city streets so it's not a 
goathead. The Big Ben is pretty thick, so it could be wire that reveals itself 
like a cat's claw.

I'll try soaping the tube to find the hole and that should help narrow my 
search of the tire. But I'm tempted to just toss the tire and tube, since I've 
gotten my money's worth.

So, toss it or look harder? 

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