Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
To further cloud your decision. I'm a long legged six-footer and ride a 64cm Ram. I wouldn't want it any smaller. On Monday, February 17, 2014 11:04:16 PM UTC-7, debra banks wrote: Thanks Leslie for this. My guy is a long-legged 6 footer. He has been riding an old Marin mtn bike with flat handlebar. Nothing special about it, his standover height looks about normal (I know, what is normal these days?, but when I ride with him, the bike seems well proportioned - frame to crotch, reach of hands to bar). He will most likely put a flat bar of some sort on this, so will not the reach for the hoods that we factor in. So what do you think? On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:49:13 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. To throw in my two cents' worth here:I'm 6', but a 62 would feel a bit large; I have a 60 Ram, and a 59 Rom, and actually like the Rom better, if on the same wheels. But I know people my height that think my 60 is too tall even, and others that would rather go bigger... It's not just height, but PBH that factors in there. The PBH will get you on the right frame to start with, then the height can nudge you in a particular direction for a stem-length or handlebar style. Stems and bars can be changed tho'... get the frame right, and the rest can be adjusted. So with that said, is your guy a long-legged 6' guy, or is he short-legged and long-torsoed? Just something to mull over -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Deb my dear, I think a 58cm Rambouillet is a little bit small for a true 6-footer, especially with a flat bar setup. I think I could fit well on a 58 Ram with a drop bar setup, but I'm only 5'10. A 59 San Marcos could be a good flat bar candidate for a 6-footer, but then he'd have the very polarizing second top tube to contend with. Bill Lindsay #6551 (aka bubba) On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:04:16 PM UTC-8, debra banks wrote: Thanks Leslie for this. My guy is a long-legged 6 footer. He has been riding an old Marin mtn bike with flat handlebar. Nothing special about it, his standover height looks about normal (I know, what is normal these days?, but when I ride with him, the bike seems well proportioned - frame to crotch, reach of hands to bar). He will most likely put a flat bar of some sort on this, so will not the reach for the hoods that we factor in. So what do you think? On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:49:13 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. To throw in my two cents' worth here:I'm 6', but a 62 would feel a bit large; I have a 60 Ram, and a 59 Rom, and actually like the Rom better, if on the same wheels. But I know people my height that think my 60 is too tall even, and others that would rather go bigger... It's not just height, but PBH that factors in there. The PBH will get you on the right frame to start with, then the height can nudge you in a particular direction for a stem-length or handlebar style. Stems and bars can be changed tho'... get the frame right, and the rest can be adjusted. So with that said, is your guy a long-legged 6' guy, or is he short-legged and long-torsoed? Just something to mull over -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Need to figure out his PBH. Then from there, look at the frame-size. When you say flat bar, do you mean like a mountain-bike bar?If he doesn't want to go drops, I'd suggest an Albatross; might be a put off for some folks, but it's a versatile bar (I went moustache instead, but, anyway...) Going with a true 'flat bar' is gonna throw off my thoughts on stem-lengths for him FWIW On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:04:16 AM UTC-5, debra banks wrote: Thanks Leslie for this. My guy is a long-legged 6 footer. He has been riding an old Marin mtn bike with flat handlebar. Nothing special about it, his standover height looks about normal (I know, what is normal these days?, but when I ride with him, the bike seems well proportioned - frame to crotch, reach of hands to bar). He will most likely put a flat bar of some sort on this, so will not the reach for the hoods that we factor in. So what do you think? On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:49:13 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. To throw in my two cents' worth here:I'm 6', but a 62 would feel a bit large; I have a 60 Ram, and a 59 Rom, and actually like the Rom better, if on the same wheels. But I know people my height that think my 60 is too tall even, and others that would rather go bigger... It's not just height, but PBH that factors in there. The PBH will get you on the right frame to start with, then the height can nudge you in a particular direction for a stem-length or handlebar style. Stems and bars can be changed tho'... get the frame right, and the rest can be adjusted. So with that said, is your guy a long-legged 6' guy, or is he short-legged and long-torsoed? Just something to mull over -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Thanks Bubba! I think I'll get Ken to do some measurements and then return to the hunt... On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:58:28 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: Deb my dear, I think a 58cm Rambouillet is a little bit small for a true 6-footer, especially with a flat bar setup. I think I could fit well on a 58 Ram with a drop bar setup, but I'm only 5'10. A 59 San Marcos could be a good flat bar candidate for a 6-footer, but then he'd have the very polarizing second top tube to contend with. Bill Lindsay #6551 (aka bubba) On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:04:16 PM UTC-8, debra banks wrote: Thanks Leslie for this. My guy is a long-legged 6 footer. He has been riding an old Marin mtn bike with flat handlebar. Nothing special about it, his standover height looks about normal (I know, what is normal these days?, but when I ride with him, the bike seems well proportioned - frame to crotch, reach of hands to bar). He will most likely put a flat bar of some sort on this, so will not the reach for the hoods that we factor in. So what do you think? On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:49:13 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. To throw in my two cents' worth here:I'm 6', but a 62 would feel a bit large; I have a 60 Ram, and a 59 Rom, and actually like the Rom better, if on the same wheels. But I know people my height that think my 60 is too tall even, and others that would rather go bigger... It's not just height, but PBH that factors in there. The PBH will get you on the right frame to start with, then the height can nudge you in a particular direction for a stem-length or handlebar style. Stems and bars can be changed tho'... get the frame right, and the rest can be adjusted. So with that said, is your guy a long-legged 6' guy, or is he short-legged and long-torsoed? Just something to mull over -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Thanks Leslie for this. My guy is a long-legged 6 footer. He has been riding an old Marin mtn bike with flat handlebar. Nothing special about it, his standover height looks about normal (I know, what is normal these days?, but when I ride with him, the bike seems well proportioned - frame to crotch, reach of hands to bar). He will most likely put a flat bar of some sort on this, so will not the reach for the hoods that we factor in. So what do you think? On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:49:13 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. To throw in my two cents' worth here:I'm 6', but a 62 would feel a bit large; I have a 60 Ram, and a 59 Rom, and actually like the Rom better, if on the same wheels. But I know people my height that think my 60 is too tall even, and others that would rather go bigger... It's not just height, but PBH that factors in there. The PBH will get you on the right frame to start with, then the height can nudge you in a particular direction for a stem-length or handlebar style. Stems and bars can be changed tho'... get the frame right, and the rest can be adjusted. So with that said, is your guy a long-legged 6' guy, or is he short-legged and long-torsoed? Just something to mull over -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Hi Debra. The Ram is still available. The wheels are 32-spoke. The bike is ready to ride with the new brake cables installed and the bars wrapped with the cork tape - both are included with the bike. Mainly due to the stem potentially being too short for a new owner and wanting to facilitate a stem swap. More below. If the 8cm seems good for a new owner I will install cables and wrap/twine/shellac the bars. I am planning to keep the Rivet saddle. Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. Dan On Feb 15, 2014, at 8:52 PM, debra banks banksde...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan! Lovely Ram. I'm on the hunt for a bike for a friend and this may be the ticket! So Q.1 is has it been scooped up by someone? Q.2 is does it need any work, or is it ready to ride? Q.3 is how tall are you? Trying to get an idea of frame size to height. My guy is 6.0'. Q.4 number of spoke holes? 32? 36? Q.5 does the 50 off for SF area extend to Sac? We are often in SF for brevets. Q.6. Is that a Rivet saddle that you are holding onto? That's it! Look forward to hearing from you. Best, deb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Sizing. I think the 58 would be too small. Especially with the 8cm stem. Here is the link to the original brochure with sizing info: http://cyclofiend.3795Goh311b3nt/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html For a 6' rider a 62 would be a much better fit. I am 5'9 and the 58 fits fine. Although I find the 8cm stem a little too short. There is a really clean 62 Ram on CL from Alameda. That might be a better bet. He has it on eBay as well. If you need help checking that out let me know. I work in Berkeley so not too far from Alameda. Let me know if you want more info. To throw in my two cents' worth here:I'm 6', but a 62 would feel a bit large; I have a 60 Ram, and a 59 Rom, and actually like the Rom better, if on the same wheels. But I know people my height that think my 60 is too tall even, and others that would rather go bigger... It's not just height, but PBH that factors in there. The PBH will get you on the right frame to start with, then the height can nudge you in a particular direction for a stem-length or handlebar style. Stems and bars can be changed tho'... get the frame right, and the rest can be adjusted. So with that said, is your guy a long-legged 6' guy, or is he short-legged and long-torsoed? Just something to mull over -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Hi Dan! Lovely Ram. I'm on the hunt for a bike for a friend and this may be the ticket! So Q.1 is has it been scooped up by someone? Q.2 is does it need any work, or is it ready to ride? Q.3 is how tall are you? Trying to get an idea of frame size to height. My guy is 6.0'. Q.4 number of spoke holes? 32? 36? Q.5 does the 50 off for SF area extend to Sac? We are often in SF for brevets. Q.6. Is that a Rivet saddle that you are holding onto? That's it! Look forward to hearing from you. Best, deb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop
Some tire kicking but nothing solid so far. $50 off for local SF Bay Area sales. Open to parting out if someone is interested in the frame or some group of components. Thanks for looking! - After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm Ram for sale. Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either. It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move it forward with a few upgrades. Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave the brake cables bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural cork tape from RBW to complete things. The brake housing run from the rear TT stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is. Here are the build details: 58 cm Rambouillet: Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs Grand Bois Cypres 30 tires - recent Ultegra headset Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new Tektro R539 brakes - recent Shimano 105 triple front Der Deore LX rear der Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent Shimano 9-speed chain - recent Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way. Nitto Noodles 46cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem 8cm Nitto 65 seatpost Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages. I am including an extra pair of new in package GB Cypres 30 tires. So 4 tires total. Link to some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk Let me know if there are problems accessing the images. Questions? Ask away. Dan -Marin / Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
