Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Thanks Mike.
No problem Applegate.

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 12:07:01 PM UTC-7, Applegate wrote:
>
> Ah, thank you for the offer. I was thinking it'd be worth adding in the 
> tires with the wheelset, but I won't rush the purchase without.
>
> On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 11:22:06 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Applegate - the Thunderburts are available.  I'm asking $70 plus 
>> shipping.  Call it $80 flat.  Does that work for you?
>> Where are you located?
>>
>> The wheelset and all other parts have been claimed.  
>> Anyone have suggestions shipping wheels?  I'll search around.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 10:44:29 AM UTC-7, Applegate wrote:
>>>
>>> And the Thunder Burts, actually...
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 10:42:12 UTC-7 Applegate wrote:
>>>
 Hi Matthew! I'd love to know a price for the Hands On Wheels-set. 
 Thanks in advance.

 On Saturday, 18 July 2020 at 12:26:00 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:

> The bike sold in June.
> and again since then so I think its time I update this post.
>
> I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on 
> the bike here
> pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>
> bars - I think they are the Albatross
> stem - Nitto lugged
> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
> brake levers - Shimano
>
> brakes - Paul cantilever
>
> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
> Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>
> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
> tubeless
> I also have available: 
> - 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>
> Thanks
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>>
>> I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis 
>> with longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever 
>> owned.  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Applegate]

Ah, thank you for the offer. I was thinking it'd be worth adding in the 
tires with the wheelset, but I won't rush the purchase without.

On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 11:22:06 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:

> Applegate - the Thunderburts are available.  I'm asking $70 plus 
> shipping.  Call it $80 flat.  Does that work for you?
> Where are you located?
>
> The wheelset and all other parts have been claimed.  
> Anyone have suggestions shipping wheels?  I'll search around.
>
> Thank you.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 10:44:29 AM UTC-7, Applegate wrote:
>>
>> And the Thunder Burts, actually...
>>
>> On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 10:42:12 UTC-7 Applegate wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Matthew! I'd love to know a price for the Hands On Wheels-set. Thanks 
>>> in advance.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 18 July 2020 at 12:26:00 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>>
 The bike sold in June.
 and again since then so I think its time I update this post.

 I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on 
 the bike here
 pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9

 bars - I think they are the Albatross
 stem - Nitto lugged
 grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
 brake levers - Shimano

 brakes - Paul cantilever

 wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
 Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub

 Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
 tubeless
 I also have available: 
 - 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
 - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.

 Thanks
 -Matthew
 San Diego

 On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis 
> with longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever 
> owned.  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 



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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Michael Williams]

Hey Matt,  take a look at bikeflights for shipping wheels.  -Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
> 
> Applegate - the Thunderburts are available.  I'm asking $70 plus shipping.  
> Call it $80 flat.  Does that work for you?
> Where are you located?
> 
> The wheelset and all other parts have been claimed.  
> Anyone have suggestions shipping wheels?  I'll search around.
> 
> Thank you.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 10:44:29 AM UTC-7, Applegate wrote:
>> And the Thunder Burts, actually...
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 10:42:12 UTC-7 Applegate wrote:
>>> Hi Matthew! I'd love to know a price for the Hands On Wheels-set. Thanks in 
>>> advance.
>>> 
 On Saturday, 18 July 2020 at 12:26:00 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
 The bike sold in June.
 and again since then so I think its time I update this post.
 
 I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on the 
 bike here
 pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
 
 bars - I think they are the Albatross
 stem - Nitto lugged
 grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
 brake levers - Shimano
 
 brakes - Paul cantilever
 
 wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
 Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
 
 Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
 tubeless
 I also have available: 
 - 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
 - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
 
 Thanks
 -Matthew
 San Diego
 
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
> I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis 
> with longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever 
> owned.  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this.
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Applegate - the Thunderburts are available.  I'm asking $70 plus shipping.  
Call it $80 flat.  Does that work for you?
Where are you located?

The wheelset and all other parts have been claimed.  
Anyone have suggestions shipping wheels?  I'll search around.

Thank you.
-Matthew
San Diego


On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 10:44:29 AM UTC-7, Applegate wrote:
>
> And the Thunder Burts, actually...
>
> On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 10:42:12 UTC-7 Applegate wrote:
>
>> Hi Matthew! I'd love to know a price for the Hands On Wheels-set. Thanks 
>> in advance.
>>
>> On Saturday, 18 July 2020 at 12:26:00 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>
>>> The bike sold in June.
>>> and again since then so I think its time I update this post.
>>>
>>> I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on 
>>> the bike here
>>> pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>>>
>>> bars - I think they are the Albatross
>>> stem - Nitto lugged
>>> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
>>> brake levers - Shimano
>>>
>>> brakes - Paul cantilever
>>>
>>> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
>>> Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>>>
>>> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
>>> tubeless
>>> I also have available: 
>>> - 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
>>> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Matthew
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:

 I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis 
 with longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever 
 owned.  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Applegate]

And the Thunder Burts, actually...

On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 10:42:12 UTC-7 Applegate wrote:

> Hi Matthew! I'd love to know a price for the Hands On Wheels-set. Thanks 
> in advance.
>
> On Saturday, 18 July 2020 at 12:26:00 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> The bike sold in June.
>> and again since then so I think its time I update this post.
>>
>> I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on the 
>> bike here
>> pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>>
>> bars - I think they are the Albatross
>> stem - Nitto lugged
>> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
>> brake levers - Shimano
>>
>> brakes - Paul cantilever
>>
>> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
>> Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>>
>> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
>> tubeless
>> I also have available: 
>> - 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
>> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis 
>>> with longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever 
>>> owned.  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Applegate]

Hi Matthew! I'd love to know a price for the Hands On Wheels-set. Thanks in 
advance.

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 at 12:26:00 UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:

> The bike sold in June.
> and again since then so I think its time I update this post.
>
> I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on the 
> bike here
> pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>
> bars - I think they are the Albatross
> stem - Nitto lugged
> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
> brake levers - Shimano
>
> brakes - Paul cantilever
>
> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
> Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>
> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
> tubeless
> I also have available: 
> - 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>
> Thanks
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>>
>> I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis 
>> with longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever 
>> owned.  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew Pendergraft]

The Paul touring canti brakes sold.
-Matthew

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:34 PM Matthew P 
wrote:

> No problem.
> I'm asking $100 shipped to CONUS for the polished Paul touring cantilever
> brakes.  Good condition.  Light use.
> -Matthew
>
>
> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 1:37:46 PM UTC-7, Lucky wrote:
>>
>> Can you please email me price for Paul brakes? luckyturnip@gmail dotcom
>>
>> Or post here?
>>
>> I’m on my phone so if I missed this, my apologies.
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

No problem.
I'm asking $100 shipped to CONUS for the polished Paul touring cantilever 
brakes.  Good condition.  Light use.
-Matthew


On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 1:37:46 PM UTC-7, Lucky wrote:
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> Can you please email me price for Paul brakes? luckyturnip@gmail dotcom 
>
> Or post here? 
>
> I’m on my phone so if I missed this, my apologies. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Lucky]

Can you please email me price for Paul brakes? luckyturnip@gmail dotcom

Or post here? 

I’m on my phone so if I missed this, my apologies. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

The bike sold in June.
and again since then so I think its time I update this post.

I have some parts from it if you're interested (see photos of them on the 
bike here
pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9

bars - I think they are the Albatross
stem - Nitto lugged
grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
brake levers - Shimano

brakes - Paul cantilever

wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ Velocity 
Atlas rims, rear Shimano Deore XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub

Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up tubeless
I also have available: 
- 2.1" Thunder Burts (in the first 6 pics in the link), and 
- 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.

Thanks
-Matthew
San Diego

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:09:04 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis with 
> longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. 
>  Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Drw]

I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis with 
longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned.  
Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Thanks Nate!
Yes, I have 2.35" Knobby Nicks and Magic Mary's on the 56 cm 650b so G Ones 
measuring 2.4" fitting I believe.
In my response to Karl I mentioned a 58 cm Atlantis that also differs from 
my and Nate's 56's in that it was Toyo made, 700c.
I'm trying to get a finger on its max tire width.  The latest Atlantis 
seems to max out at 700c x 2.2"
https://theradavist.com/2019/01/ultra-romance-and-his-rivendell-atlantis-mountain-bike/
-Matthew
P.S. Buy Andrew's Clem  :-)



On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:49:40 PM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> Someone buy my Clem and I'll get this thread closed out!
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-4, Nate in Oakland wrote:
>>
>> I just measured my g-one speeds (on my 56 650b musa Atlantis) at 2.4 
>> inches with my calipers.
>>
>> Nate
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Andrew Huston]

Someone buy my Clem and I'll get this thread closed out!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-4, Nate in Oakland wrote:
>
> I just measured my g-one speeds (on my 56 650b musa Atlantis) at 2.4 
> inches with my calipers.
>
> Nate
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Nate in Oakland]

I just measured my g-one speeds (on my 56 650b musa Atlantis) at 2.4 inches 
with my calipers.

Nate

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew Pendergraft]

By the complete bike Karl!  :)
I can't wait to build up the 58 cm Atlantis from you. It looks like 2.2" is
the widest I can go. Did you ever find a max tire for it?

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 6:15 AM Karl  wrote:

> Man, what a deal Matthew! This would complete my 650b stable!
>
> Karl
> Nash, TN
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Karl]

Man, what a deal Matthew! This would complete my 650b stable!

Karl
Nash, TN

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Nate in Oakland]

I’d like to say that I own this exact frame and it is excellent.  Here are some 
pluses:
-Excellent tire clearance.  I’m running 650x2.3 in tires and maybe have room 
for fenders.
-Looks.  Almost flat top tube and chain stays that are longer than older 
models, but not super long like the current ones.  Also features my fav 
Rivendell lug set.  Head tube lugs are more ornate than the newer version.
-Ride.  The bike is fun and lively unloaded, but loaded is where it really 
shines.  I’ve done some heavy loaded touring on mine and it was just a dream.  
I guess this is a given with the Atlantis.

I waited over a year for mine and paid full American prices for the frame and 
I’ve felt that it was worth it.  This is a steal!

Nate

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

*Price drop on the complete bike to $2800 OBO* before I sell the frame & 
fork and part out the rest.
pics https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
Thanks.

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 6:59:47 AM UTC-7, Matthew P wrote:
>
> Greetings.
> I'm offering to sell this *frame & fork for $1400*.
> The original owner paid about $2500 as a special order built by Waterford.
> I paid $3000 for the complete bike.
> Let me know if you are interested.
> Thanks.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
>
> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 2:09:24 PM UTC-7, Matthew P wrote:
>>
>> Good eye ted!  I gave a double look at that and should have checked.
>>
>> correction -
>> standover, cm: 82.65
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks to me like you got the stand over from the 53 row.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Greetings.
I'm offering to sell this *frame & fork for $1400*.
The original owner paid about $2500 as a special order built by Waterford.
I paid $3000 for the complete bike.
Let me know if you are interested.
Thanks.
-Matthew
San Diego


On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 2:09:24 PM UTC-7, Matthew P wrote:
>
> Good eye ted!  I gave a double look at that and should have checked.
>
> correction -
> standover, cm: 82.65
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
>>
>> Looks to me like you got the stand over from the 53 row.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Good eye ted!  I gave a double look at that and should have checked.

correction -
standover, cm: 82.65

Thanks!

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
>
> Looks to me like you got the stand over from the 53 row.

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[ted]

Looks to me like you got the stand over from the 53 row.

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Here are some rough measurements made with a tape measure on this Waterford 
Atlantis.
I give the measurement from the Riv 2017 geo chart in parentheses when 
available. 
Assume any discrepancies are my own error.

seat tube: 56 cm (vs. 56 cm)
top tube: 57 cm (vs. 57.7 eff. tt)
down tube: 62.25 cm
chain stay: 47.25 cm (vs. 47.5 cm)


Here are the numbers for this frame pulled from that Riv geo chart I 
originally attached: 

frame: Atlantis
size:  56cm/650b
bb drop, mm: 67
top tube slope: 3
rear hub space, mm: 135
stand over, cm: 79.76
st angle: 71.5
ht angle: 71
rake, cm: 5.2
eff. tt, cm: 57.7
front center: 61.76
chain stay, cm: 47.5
wheel size: 584/650b
max tire size: 650b x 2.1"
eff. brake reach: -
brake style: canti/v
double tt?: no
stack, mm: 583
reach, mm: 381


-Matthew



On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 12:42:04 PM UTC-7, Mike Williams wrote:
>
> Ahh.  Yes,  I shoulda figured that.   
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Matthew P  > wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks Joe and thanks for the catch Mike.
>
> WATERFORD, not Walt Works
>
> -Matthew
>
>
> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:26:21 AM UTC-7, Mike Williams wrote:
>>
>> Whoa!  Did I read that correct?  A MUSA built Waltworks Atlantis?  Only 
>> of its kind?   Interesting.   -Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Dear RBW Owners,
>>
>> I am selling a 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis.  It's geometry is listed in the 
>> attachment.  I bought it off the RBW list on Februry 1st from the original 
>> owner (Brencho).  He said he got it a few years back, around 2017, when the 
>> new geometries were coming out.  But he got this as a special order, with 
>> the "older" MUSA Atlantis geometry.  And it is a MUSA, made by Waltworks.  
>> I jumped on it because I never see Atlantises for sale and thought this was 
>> the perfect size for me.  It turns out to be a little small.  I was 
>> thinking of keeping it as a trail bike, so I put 2.35" tires on it, set up 
>> tubeless.
>>
>> I am 5'11" with a 86 cm PBH.  In case it helps, in Surly units, I ride a 
>> 56 cm Surly Long Haul Trucker with ample room to spare.  This 56 cm 
>> Atlantis is smaller - most or all of the tubes are shorter than that bike - 
>> and the Atlantis has smaller wheels (650b vs 700c).
>>
>> This Atlantis is a premium build.  Here is some info:
>>
>> bars - I think they are the Albatross
>> stem - Nitto lugged
>> shifters - Shimano bar end
>> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
>> brakes - Paul cantilever
>> brake levers - Shimano
>> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
>> Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>> Cranks - Sugino triple
>> Derailers - Shimano XT
>> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
>> tubeless
>> I also have available: 
>> - 2.1" Thunder Burts, and 
>> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>> seatpost - Nitto S83 (2 bolts)
>> saddle - A cheapo I put on after buying it with no saddle. Can include or 
>> take off.
>> pedals - nice metal flat pedals but the name is rubbed off so I'm not 
>> sure who made them.  I'd like to keep them if you don't want them.
>>
>> The bike was basically brand new when I got it in January.  I've ridden 
>> it about 20 times.  Its in great shape.  There is just one significant 
>> scratch on the NDS chainstay (bad pic in link).  Its not the only scratch 
>> but I think its the worst.  
>>
>> Here is a link to an album of photos: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>> Please let me know if that does not work or otherwise.
>>
>> I put the 2.35" tires on it and paid to get them setup tubeless, so I put 
>> about $150 into it.  I used it just a little and put a little money into it 
>> so I'm asking what I paid: $3000.  I suggest we split the shipping.  PayPal 
>> fees are $87 when sending $3000 "to a friend", so I would like to try 
>> another payment method - bank transfer or mail a money order (if that is 
>> safe)?
>>
>> Please let me know if you are interested or have any questions.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Joe Bernard]

I figured it was a typo but went looking for WaltWorks anyway and found him on 
Instagram. He made a custom 20-inch-wheel gravel bike for a little person! 

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Mike Williams]

Ahh.  Yes,  I shoulda figured that.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Joe and thanks for the catch Mike.
> 
> WATERFORD, not Walt Works
> 
> -Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:26:21 AM UTC-7, Mike Williams wrote:
>> Whoa!  Did I read that correct?  A MUSA built Waltworks Atlantis?  Only of 
>> its kind?   Interesting.   -Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Dear RBW Owners,
>>> 
>>> I am selling a 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis.  It's geometry is listed in the 
>>> attachment.  I bought it off the RBW list on Februry 1st from the original 
>>> owner (Brencho).  He said he got it a few years back, around 2017, when the 
>>> new geometries were coming out.  But he got this as a special order, with 
>>> the "older" MUSA Atlantis geometry.  And it is a MUSA, made by Waltworks.  
>>> I jumped on it because I never see Atlantises for sale and thought this was 
>>> the perfect size for me.  It turns out to be a little small.  I was 
>>> thinking of keeping it as a trail bike, so I put 2.35" tires on it, set up 
>>> tubeless.
>>> 
>>> I am 5'11" with a 86 cm PBH.  In case it helps, in Surly units, I ride a 56 
>>> cm Surly Long Haul Trucker with ample room to spare.  This 56 cm Atlantis 
>>> is smaller - most or all of the tubes are shorter than that bike - and the 
>>> Atlantis has smaller wheels (650b vs 700c).
>>> 
>>> This Atlantis is a premium build.  Here is some info:
>>> 
>>> bars - I think they are the Albatross
>>> stem - Nitto lugged
>>> shifters - Shimano bar end
>>> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
>>> brakes - Paul cantilever
>>> brake levers - Shimano
>>> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ Velocity 
>>> Atlas rims, rear Shimano XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>>> Cranks - Sugino triple
>>> Derailers - Shimano XT
>>> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up tubeless
>>> I also have available: 
>>> - 2.1" Thunder Burts, and 
>>> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>>> seatpost - Nitto S83 (2 bolts)
>>> saddle - A cheapo I put on after buying it with no saddle. Can include or 
>>> take off.
>>> pedals - nice metal flat pedals but the name is rubbed off so I'm not sure 
>>> who made them.  I'd like to keep them if you don't want them.
>>> 
>>> The bike was basically brand new when I got it in January.  I've ridden it 
>>> about 20 times.  Its in great shape.  There is just one significant scratch 
>>> on the NDS chainstay (bad pic in link).  Its not the only scratch but I 
>>> think its the worst.  
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to an album of photos: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>>> Please let me know if that does not work or otherwise.
>>> 
>>> I put the 2.35" tires on it and paid to get them setup tubeless, so I put 
>>> about $150 into it.  I used it just a little and put a little money into it 
>>> so I'm asking what I paid: $3000.  I suggest we split the shipping.  PayPal 
>>> fees are $87 when sending $3000 "to a friend", so I would like to try 
>>> another payment method - bank transfer or mail a money order (if that is 
>>> safe)?
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if you are interested or have any questions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> -Matthew
>>> San Diego
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Matthew P]

Thanks Joe and thanks for the catch Mike.

WATERFORD, not Walt Works

-Matthew


On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:26:21 AM UTC-7, Mike Williams wrote:
>
> Whoa!  Did I read that correct?  A MUSA built Waltworks Atlantis?  Only of 
> its kind?   Interesting.   -Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Matthew P  > wrote:
>
> 
> Dear RBW Owners,
>
> I am selling a 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis.  It's geometry is listed in the 
> attachment.  I bought it off the RBW list on Februry 1st from the original 
> owner (Brencho).  He said he got it a few years back, around 2017, when the 
> new geometries were coming out.  But he got this as a special order, with 
> the "older" MUSA Atlantis geometry.  And it is a MUSA, made by Waltworks.  
> I jumped on it because I never see Atlantises for sale and thought this was 
> the perfect size for me.  It turns out to be a little small.  I was 
> thinking of keeping it as a trail bike, so I put 2.35" tires on it, set up 
> tubeless.
>
> I am 5'11" with a 86 cm PBH.  In case it helps, in Surly units, I ride a 
> 56 cm Surly Long Haul Trucker with ample room to spare.  This 56 cm 
> Atlantis is smaller - most or all of the tubes are shorter than that bike - 
> and the Atlantis has smaller wheels (650b vs 700c).
>
> This Atlantis is a premium build.  Here is some info:
>
> bars - I think they are the Albatross
> stem - Nitto lugged
> shifters - Shimano bar end
> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
> brakes - Paul cantilever
> brake levers - Shimano
> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ 
> Velocity Atlas rims, rear Shimano XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
> Cranks - Sugino triple
> Derailers - Shimano XT
> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up 
> tubeless
> I also have available: 
> - 2.1" Thunder Burts, and 
> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
> seatpost - Nitto S83 (2 bolts)
> saddle - A cheapo I put on after buying it with no saddle. Can include or 
> take off.
> pedals - nice metal flat pedals but the name is rubbed off so I'm not sure 
> who made them.  I'd like to keep them if you don't want them.
>
> The bike was basically brand new when I got it in January.  I've ridden it 
> about 20 times.  Its in great shape.  There is just one significant scratch 
> on the NDS chainstay (bad pic in link).  Its not the only scratch but I 
> think its the worst.  
>
> Here is a link to an album of photos: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
> Please let me know if that does not work or otherwise.
>
> I put the 2.35" tires on it and paid to get them setup tubeless, so I put 
> about $150 into it.  I used it just a little and put a little money into it 
> so I'm asking what I paid: $3000.  I suggest we split the shipping.  PayPal 
> fees are $87 when sending $3000 "to a friend", so I would like to try 
> another payment method - bank transfer or mail a money order (if that is 
> safe)?
>
> Please let me know if you are interested or have any questions.
>
> Thank you.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Mike Williams]

Whoa!  Did I read that correct?  A MUSA built Waltworks Atlantis?  Only of its 
kind?   Interesting.   -Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear RBW Owners,
> 
> I am selling a 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis.  It's geometry is listed in the 
> attachment.  I bought it off the RBW list on Februry 1st from the original 
> owner (Brencho).  He said he got it a few years back, around 2017, when the 
> new geometries were coming out.  But he got this as a special order, with the 
> "older" MUSA Atlantis geometry.  And it is a MUSA, made by Waltworks.  I 
> jumped on it because I never see Atlantises for sale and thought this was the 
> perfect size for me.  It turns out to be a little small.  I was thinking of 
> keeping it as a trail bike, so I put 2.35" tires on it, set up tubeless.
> 
> I am 5'11" with a 86 cm PBH.  In case it helps, in Surly units, I ride a 56 
> cm Surly Long Haul Trucker with ample room to spare.  This 56 cm Atlantis is 
> smaller - most or all of the tubes are shorter than that bike - and the 
> Atlantis has smaller wheels (650b vs 700c).
> 
> This Atlantis is a premium build.  Here is some info:
> 
> bars - I think they are the Albatross
> stem - Nitto lugged
> shifters - Shimano bar end
> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
> brakes - Paul cantilever
> brake levers - Shimano
> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ Velocity 
> Atlas rims, rear Shimano XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
> Cranks - Sugino triple
> Derailers - Shimano XT
> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up tubeless
> I also have available: 
> - 2.1" Thunder Burts, and 
> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
> seatpost - Nitto S83 (2 bolts)
> saddle - A cheapo I put on after buying it with no saddle. Can include or 
> take off.
> pedals - nice metal flat pedals but the name is rubbed off so I'm not sure 
> who made them.  I'd like to keep them if you don't want them.
> 
> The bike was basically brand new when I got it in January.  I've ridden it 
> about 20 times.  Its in great shape.  There is just one significant scratch 
> on the NDS chainstay (bad pic in link).  Its not the only scratch but I think 
> its the worst.  
> 
> Here is a link to an album of photos: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
> Please let me know if that does not work or otherwise.
> 
> I put the 2.35" tires on it and paid to get them setup tubeless, so I put 
> about $150 into it.  I used it just a little and put a little money into it 
> so I'm asking what I paid: $3000.  I suggest we split the shipping.  PayPal 
> fees are $87 when sending $3000 "to a friend", so I would like to try another 
> payment method - bank transfer or mail a money order (if that is safe)?
> 
> Please let me know if you are interested or have any questions.
> 
> Thank you.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
> 
> 
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[RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Joe Bernard]

I would recommend posting actual numbers you get with a tape measure for this, 
that chart is going to be confusing for people. 

Center of crank bolt to top of toptube will give the seattube number Riv uses 
to size their frames. The toptube is mostly level so you can do a real (not 
"effective") measurement there, center-to-center. That's a nice bike!

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