Re: [RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-11 Thread adam leibow
Pudge, why are they skeptical?? is it a fender efficacy question or a tire 
clearance one?

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 7:20:39 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
>
> On my Atlantis, I use the 60mm Berthouds over Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 
> nominal 50mm that measure pretty true.  I think there's adequate clearance 
> (especially because the fender profile is pretty flat -- that is, the cross 
> section arc is pretty flat), but others on the list with whom I've ridden 
> and whose judgment I respect are more skeptical (Minh from DC, for one). 
> But I and others ridden that bike a lot on roads and trails and have never 
> had an issue with that fender/tire combo.  There are pics on my 
> Flickrstream that give some indication of the clearance, in this album:  
> https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157624427413755
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Reed Kennedy  
> wrote:
>
> The widest fenders I'm aware of are these 60mm from Berthoud: 
>
> http://store.biketouringnews.com/gilles-berthoud-stainless-fenders-700c-x-60mm/
> And these 63mm from VO:
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/700c/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c.html
>
> Both listings say they should work with 50mm tires. 
>
> I've not used either of these specific fenders, but I have installed 
> numerous pairs of VO's other fenders and have been happy with them.
>
> That said, if I were putting them on a bike that didn't have to go on a 
> roof rack I'd probably go with the Berthouds. They look a bit longer, and 
> people speak highly of the flattened stays.
>
> Would love to hear how they work out if you try 'em! My 700c Hunq is 
> currently my only fenderless bike...
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:00 PM, adam leibow  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,  
>> I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender 
>> options before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like 
>> one rule of thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the 
>> tire size. So, in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this 
>> rule. What options are available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge 
>> options. I want something nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud. 
>>
>> 700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 
>> 650b specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-11 Thread Jon BALER
I have the Planet Bike Cascadia ALX 29 Medium fenders in 65mm width on my 
Salsa Marrakesh.  These are their newer fenders, which are made from 
Aluminum.   I also have the Velo Orange fenders, but find these easier to 
install.

http://ecom1.planetbike.com/ALX29Medium.html

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 10:20:39 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> On my Atlantis, I use the 60mm Berthouds over Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 
> nominal 50mm that measure pretty true.  I think there's adequate clearance 
> (especially because the fender profile is pretty flat -- that is, the cross 
> section arc is pretty flat), but others on the list with whom I've ridden 
> and whose judgment I respect are more skeptical (Minh from DC, for one). 
> But I and others ridden that bike a lot on roads and trails and have never 
> had an issue with that fender/tire combo.  There are pics on my 
> Flickrstream that give some indication of the clearance, in this album:  
> https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157624427413755
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Reed Kennedy  
> wrote:
>
> The widest fenders I'm aware of are these 60mm from Berthoud: 
>
> http://store.biketouringnews.com/gilles-berthoud-stainless-fenders-700c-x-60mm/
> And these 63mm from VO:
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/700c/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c.html
>
> Both listings say they should work with 50mm tires. 
>
> I've not used either of these specific fenders, but I have installed 
> numerous pairs of VO's other fenders and have been happy with them.
>
> That said, if I were putting them on a bike that didn't have to go on a 
> roof rack I'd probably go with the Berthouds. They look a bit longer, and 
> people speak highly of the flattened stays.
>
> Would love to hear how they work out if you try 'em! My 700c Hunq is 
> currently my only fenderless bike...
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:00 PM, adam leibow  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,  
>> I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender 
>> options before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like 
>> one rule of thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the 
>> tire size. So, in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this 
>> rule. What options are available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge 
>> options. I want something nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud. 
>>
>> 700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 
>> 650b specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-11 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
On my Atlantis, I use the 60mm Berthouds over Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 
nominal 50mm that measure pretty true.  I think there's adequate clearance 
(especially because the fender profile is pretty flat -- that is, the cross 
section arc is pretty flat), but others on the list with whom I've ridden and 
whose judgment I respect are more skeptical (Minh from DC, for one). But I and 
others ridden that bike a lot on roads and trails and have never had an issue 
with that fender/tire combo.  There are pics on my Flickrstream that give some 
indication of the clearance, in this album:  
https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157624427413755

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Reed Kennedy 
> wrote:

The widest fenders I'm aware of are these 60mm from Berthoud:
http://store.biketouringnews.com/gilles-berthoud-stainless-fenders-700c-x-60mm/
And these 63mm from VO:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/700c/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c.html

Both listings say they should work with 50mm tires.

I've not used either of these specific fenders, but I have installed numerous 
pairs of VO's other fenders and have been happy with them.

That said, if I were putting them on a bike that didn't have to go on a roof 
rack I'd probably go with the Berthouds. They look a bit longer, and people 
speak highly of the flattened stays.

Would love to hear how they work out if you try 'em! My 700c Hunq is currently 
my only fenderless bike...


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:00 PM, adam leibow 
> wrote:
Hello,
I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender options 
before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like one rule of 
thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the tire size. So, 
in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this rule. What options are 
available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge options. I want something 
nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud.

700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 650b 
specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-10 Thread Patrick Shea
I have a set of VO 63mm silver fenders I'd sell cheap. I used them with
Smart Sams 2.1 w/o issues. Very solid mounts.

Cheers,
Patrick

On Thursday, November 10, 2016, adam leibow  wrote:

> Hello,
> I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender
> options before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like
> one rule of thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the
> tire size. So, in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this
> rule. What options are available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge
> options. I want something nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud.
>
> 700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 650b
> specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-10 Thread adam leibow
thank you! if i had known there was a 60mm option from GB, i'd have just 
gotten those. just placed the order. thanks!

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 1:44:36 PM UTC-8, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> The widest fenders I'm aware of are these 60mm from Berthoud:
>
> http://store.biketouringnews.com/gilles-berthoud-stainless-fenders-700c-x-60mm/
> And these 63mm from VO:
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/700c/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c.html
>
> Both listings say they should work with 50mm tires. 
>
> I've not used either of these specific fenders, but I have installed 
> numerous pairs of VO's other fenders and have been happy with them.
>
> That said, if I were putting them on a bike that didn't have to go on a 
> roof rack I'd probably go with the Berthouds. They look a bit longer, and 
> people speak highly of the flattened stays.
>
> Would love to hear how they work out if you try 'em! My 700c Hunq is 
> currently my only fenderless bike...
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:00 PM, adam leibow  > wrote:
>
>> Hello, 
>> I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender 
>> options before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like 
>> one rule of thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the 
>> tire size. So, in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this 
>> rule. What options are available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge 
>> options. I want something nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud. 
>>
>> 700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 
>> 650b specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-10 Thread Reed Kennedy
The widest fenders I'm aware of are these 60mm from Berthoud:
http://store.biketouringnews.com/gilles-berthoud-stainless-fenders-700c-x-60mm/
And these 63mm from VO:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/700c/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c.html

Both listings say they should work with 50mm tires.

I've not used either of these specific fenders, but I have installed
numerous pairs of VO's other fenders and have been happy with them.

That said, if I were putting them on a bike that didn't have to go on a
roof rack I'd probably go with the Berthouds. They look a bit longer, and
people speak highly of the flattened stays.

Would love to hear how they work out if you try 'em! My 700c Hunq is
currently my only fenderless bike...


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:00 PM, adam leibow  wrote:

> Hello,
> I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender
> options before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like
> one rule of thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the
> tire size. So, in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this
> rule. What options are available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge
> options. I want something nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud.
>
> 700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 650b
> specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!
>
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[RBW] Fenders for 700c Hunqapillar

2016-11-10 Thread adam leibow
Hello, 
I am going on LA>SF tour this January, and I want to explore my fender 
options before it's too late. I will be using 50mm tires and it seems like 
one rule of thumb people use is to use a fender that's 10mm wider than the 
tire size. So, in my case, I want a 60mm wide fender according to this 
rule. What options are available for me? I don't want to use the sks/esge 
options. I want something nicer, along the lines of Honjo and Berthoud. 

700x50 seems the widest Berthoud offering, and the wider Honjo's seem 650b 
specific... Anybody have any rec's??? thanks!

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