Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I've had the same experience. I now ride with the handlebar about 1 to 2 centimeters below the saddle height. That business of raising the handlebar as high as you can get them doesn't work for me. On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:14:23 PM UTC-8, rw1911 wrote: This is counter-intuitive to the assumption that higher bars equal a better more comfortable position. I kept raising my bars in search of comfort. I usually ride on the brake hoods and after many miles found the drops more comfortable so I lowered the bars to 1-2cm below the saddle and haven't looked back. I don't have an explanation other than if your saddle is in the right pace, I think it relates to torso/arm/top tube length and the angle in which your arms meet the bars in your preferred position. (Which also affects the shoulders, neck and back) Each person has different proportions and individual preferences. If going up isn't working, try going down. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:14:56 PM UTC-5, z-man wrote: try bars -1cm below saddle height On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i_B-8ulIdt8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I think it's important to realize that any change can equal a really painful result. Quick and dramatic changes - such as going from 3-4 cm below to 6 above (not saying that was what happened here, just trying to make the point) - change the stresses on the body dramatically and suddenly. This can be especially problematic if you ride a fair amount already, because, even though uncomfortable, your body is used to a certain position. I know I'm much more sensitive to changes and switching between differently set up bikes when my regular mileage is higher. My experience has been that smaller, regular movements towards a desired position is much safer on the body. Backs and necks are funny things, and after pretty seriously tweaking mine playing high school football, I've always been careful with position changes. I am very lucky to have been blessed with the genetics of good flexibility. But, in my high mileage years, while also mostly working at a desk, I was definitely taking a set - rounding shoulders and back, while my head easily would look up (yeah, I'm a 1 - 3 cm below the bars kinda body/guy). I was lucky enough to connect with an excellent yoga instructor and after 3+ years, have really undone a lot of that collapsing tendency. She also has a strong core focus, and I was again slapped upside the head with the knowledge that a strong core (especially stomach muscles which have NO stress in most cycling) alleviates about 95% of any low back issues. The body is a lazy device, and will only make itself just as strong as it needs to be, and only in the directions in which you ask it to be. ..oktime to ride! - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yjayo2I3rIEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
To my eyeball, it seems like that bar you're using has a lot of reach. Maybe a shorter reach bar would be better? I still think switching to a more usable 44-46t big ring will eliminate lots of problems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0qNIGfhe0eMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
Diagnosing fit by looking at a picture of a riderless bike seems silly to me. If you really want some help, we need at least a picture of you on the bike, with both feet on the pedals. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nzTapkeb6vYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
A riderless bike is actually full of information. Admittedly, seeing the rider on the bike is another useful data point. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LSekIbNCwEsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
try bars -1cm below saddle height On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
Having the seat too far back was the source of my lower backpain FWIW... Steve On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I can feel less than 2mm on seat post height, but what I've found has the most effect on my lower back hurting or not, on any given setup, is the tilt do the saddle. We're talking ANAL here; a quarter turn on one of the seat post screws is sometimes too much. I'd suggest you try that first if you're otherwise comfortable. It'll change the weight distribution on your back. René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
This is counter-intuitive to the assumption that higher bars equal a better more comfortable position. I kept raising my bars in search of comfort. I usually ride on the brake hoods and after many miles found the drops more comfortable so I lowered the bars to 1-2cm below the saddle and haven't looked back. I don't have an explanation other than if your saddle is in the right pace, I think it relates to torso/arm/top tube length and the angle in which your arms meet the bars in your preferred position. (Which also affects the shoulders, neck and back) Each person has different proportions and individual preferences. If going up isn't working, try going down. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:14:56 PM UTC-5, z-man wrote: try bars -1cm below saddle height On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oRxtVi1wFDcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
