Re: [RBW] Gentleman Sam Hillborne but more of a story to it and a bit of drama

2014-05-06 Thread Hugh Flynn
I have been riding 46cm Noodle Bars on my '99 Heron since I replace the 44cm 
Noodle Bars I had on it originally. 

For the style of riding I enjoy (distance mainly), the Noodles have been ideal. 
Long, flat, comfortable. My hands have never been happier on a handlebar. 

That having been said, I am not a huge fan of upright bars for distance riding. 
I find too upright a posture to be nearly as uncomfortable as too bent a 
posture. 

Hugh taking the middle path Flynn
Newburyport, MA


On May 5, 2014, at 1:10 PM, dougP wrote:

 Tom:
 
 It'll be interesting to compare notes next time we see each other.  After 
 having noodles on my Atlantis since I got it in '03, I've lately been fooling 
 around with upright bars.  The current set-up is Origin 8 Space Bar but it 
 lacks enough forward sweep for climbing (not a high priority at the moment, 
 though).  I've had hand issues the last couple of years, hence the desire for 
 something different.  
 
 The eggplant tape looks great.  
 
 dougP
 
 On Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:26:07 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:
 It has been almost a year since Jared at Rivendell and I discussed Sam, 
 elected a build kit, and pulled the trigger.  There have been some really 
 sweet spots of riding, meeting and engaging with many of you here in the 
 bunch, and some pleasurable wrenching on Sam.
 
 I liked the Alba bars, and know that many of you benefit from them.  I 
 elected to have them when Sam was built.   My gun, my  bullet, and my 
 trigger.  So please take no disrespect.  But for me, it was time for them to 
 go.
 
 I have been riding my Boulder All Road rando with noodles far and wide, and 
 always, even if fatigued from a long effort, felt pretty good.  I was NOT 
 feeling that about hands resting on the cork grips, the metal brake levers, 
 or the hard, shellacked bar tape ahead of that on my Sam.
 
 The rando didn't replace Sam, it just serves a different purpose.  Sam is a 
 horse of a bike that can do a lot.  So, solution:  make Sam more like rando 
 without compromising (gentling, for Wheel of Time fans) him.  Noodles with 
 eggplant tape.  And a generator lighting system.  That's the ticket.
 
 So here he is in his new configuration.  There is an explanation for the 
 background.
 
 ~Tom
 
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Re: [RBW] Gentleman Sam Hillborne but more of a story to it and a bit of drama

2014-05-05 Thread Patrick Moore
That's a very nicely built up and set up Sam! And I do like that slightly
slate-grey blue (if my eyes see it right, and if the screen faithfully
reproduces it) -- it's a color I often use for elegant but not gaudy
accents in my (not cheap) resumes.

On to the bar: I've tried a huge number of different sorts of bars over the
years and the end result consistently is that traditional drop bars are
the only shape I can comfortably ride for more than a few miles. The heel
of my left hand's palm is very sensitive and gets numb very quickly when on
any part of any bar except the ramps, hoods, or hooks of a traditional drop
-- even the last have to be pretty much horizontal; no downward angle.

Interesting: with all this experimenting, I've found pretty much
conclusively in my own case that shape and positioning of the bar is far,
far, FAR more important than padding, be this tape or gloves. I don't use
gloves myself except for cold and prefer unpadded ones.


On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Tom Virgil tevir...@gmail.com wrote:

 It has been almost a year since Jared at Rivendell and I discussed Sam,
 elected a build kit, and pulled the trigger.  There have been some really
 sweet spots of riding, meeting and engaging with many of you here in the
 bunch, and some pleasurable wrenching on Sam.

 I liked the Alba bars, and know that many of you benefit from them.  I
 elected to have them when Sam was built.   My gun, my  bullet, and my
 trigger.  So please take no disrespect.  But for me, it was time for them
 to go.

 I have been riding my Boulder All Road rando with noodles far and wide,
 and always, even if fatigued from a long effort, felt pretty good.  I was
 NOT feeling that about hands resting on the cork grips, the metal brake
 levers, or the hard, shellacked bar tape ahead of that on my Sam.

 The rando didn't replace Sam, it just serves a different purpose.  Sam is
 a horse of a bike that can do a lot.  So, solution:  make Sam more like
 rando without compromising (gentling, for Wheel of Time fans) him.  Noodles
 with eggplant tape.  And a generator lighting system.  That's the ticket.

 So here he is in his new 
 configuration.https://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/sets/72157644521377844/
 There is an explanation for the 
 background.https://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/sets/72157644507522452/

 ~Tom

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[RBW] Gentleman Sam Hillborne but more of a story to it and a bit of drama

2014-05-04 Thread Tom Virgil
It has been almost a year since Jared at Rivendell and I discussed Sam, 
elected a build kit, and pulled the trigger.  There have been some really 
sweet spots of riding, meeting and engaging with many of you here in the 
bunch, and some pleasurable wrenching on Sam.

I liked the Alba bars, and know that many of you benefit from them.  I 
elected to have them when Sam was built.   My gun, my  bullet, and my 
trigger.  So please take no disrespect.  But for me, it was time for them 
to go.

I have been riding my Boulder All Road rando with noodles far and wide, and 
always, even if fatigued from a long effort, felt pretty good.  I was NOT 
feeling that about hands resting on the cork grips, the metal brake levers, 
or the hard, shellacked bar tape ahead of that on my Sam.

The rando didn't replace Sam, it just serves a different purpose.  Sam is a 
horse of a bike that can do a lot.  So, solution:  make Sam more like rando 
without compromising (gentling, for Wheel of Time fans) him.  Noodles with 
eggplant tape.  And a generator lighting system.  That's the ticket.

So here he is in his new 
configuration.https://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/sets/72157644521377844/
  
There is an explanation for the 
background.https://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/sets/72157644507522452/

~Tom

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