Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Ryan Stanis]

David, that build looks super fresh with the Oracle Ridge tires on there!
I'll have to pick up a pair at some point and pull the fenders to give
those a try.

OP, I've been running Panaracer Gravel King SK 700x43s on CR18s with VO
Zeppelin Fenders (52mm wide?) on a Canti Sam and the fit istight.
Fenders can get clogged with debris easily and if the fenders get knocked
around i'll end up getting tire rub when really cranking up climbs.  It
wasn't til I went climbing through some fallen trees after a big storm that
the fender started doing thatShould've taken a hint and turned around.

-Ryan

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 7:07 PM David Baldi 
wrote:

> I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads.
> Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have minimal
>> clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini Motos mini
>> cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same setup on
>> Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake bridge and
>> brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the GravelKing 1.9's
>> (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, minimal clearance,
>> but it rolled.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this
>>> month's release.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>>
 Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I
 could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is
 excellent though.

 On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:

 For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene
 Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018
 Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either
 component.

 Mark

 On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:

> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit
> on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on
> the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to
> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go
> much bigger.
>
> - Nathan
>

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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Joseph Willms]

Thanks, Scott. I appreciate that. That's a good-looking bike!

Joe

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:57:36 PM UTC-6 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Just had a pair of the V/O 52mm Zepplin fenders installed on my SimpleOne 
> over top of 42mm Compass Hurricane Pass tires. The clearance kinda seems 
> about the same +/– compared to my Sam thats running 43mm BG R'n R's. 
> Clearance is pretty good, you'll def. hear and feel peddles on rougher 
> roads. here's a link to a insta gallery of the build: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHdvFFoF-CO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> Scott
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:48:57 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Mark, that's the ticket! Looks like I found one 
>>  using 42 mm Soma Cazaderos and 
>> Sim Works by Honjo Fenders (Turtle 58 mm from the looks of it) with a 
>> Minimoto! Thank you!
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 10:31:49 PM UTC-6 Joseph Willms wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, I'll look through there now. Thank you!
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:09:24 PM UTC-6 Mark Allen wrote:
>>>
 Joe – I'm using Paul Touring Cantis, haven't tried them with V brakes. 
 Looking at Blue Lug's Hillborne gallery 
 ,
  
 they seem to have a few builds with Minimotos and 40mm+ tires and some 
 with 
 fenders, maybe that will give you some clues as to what is possible.

 On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Mark, 
>
> What brakes are you running on your Sam?  I was thinking about doing 
> the Snoqualmie Pass on mine, but thought fenders would be a no-go if I 
> wanted to use Paul Minimotos.  Based on the 52mm fender size though, I'm 
> now wondering if it isn't actually possible.  Paul said 44mm tires are 
> the 
> max for the Minimotos, but I think their video also had 50 or 52 mm 
> fenders 
> with the brakes as well.  
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-6 David Baldi wrote:
>
>> I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. 
>> Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9
>>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>>
>>> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have 
>>> minimal clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini 
>>> Motos mini cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the 
>>> same 
>>> setup on Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the 
>>> brake 
>>> bridge and brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the 
>>> GravelKing 1.9's (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. 
>>> Again, 
>>> minimal clearance, but it rolled.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before 
 this month's release.

 On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:

> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think 
> I could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow 
> Pass 38 
> is excellent though.
>
> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>
> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 
> 2018 
> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for 
> either 
> component.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable 
>> limit on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, 
>> especially 
>> on the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max 
>> clearance to 
>> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really 
>> can't go 
>> much bigger. 
>>
>> - Nathan
>>
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[greenteadrinkers]

Just had a pair of the V/O 52mm Zepplin fenders installed on my SimpleOne 
over top of 42mm Compass Hurricane Pass tires. The clearance kinda seems 
about the same +/– compared to my Sam thats running 43mm BG R'n R's. 
Clearance is pretty good, you'll def. hear and feel peddles on rougher 
roads. here's a link to a insta gallery of the build: 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHdvFFoF-CO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Scott

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:48:57 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark, that's the ticket! Looks like I found one 
>  using 42 mm Soma Cazaderos and 
> Sim Works by Honjo Fenders (Turtle 58 mm from the looks of it) with a 
> Minimoto! Thank you!
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 10:31:49 PM UTC-6 Joseph Willms wrote:
>
>> Mark, I'll look through there now. Thank you!
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:09:24 PM UTC-6 Mark Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Joe – I'm using Paul Touring Cantis, haven't tried them with V brakes. 
>>> Looking at Blue Lug's Hillborne gallery 
>>> ,
>>>  
>>> they seem to have a few builds with Minimotos and 40mm+ tires and some with 
>>> fenders, maybe that will give you some clues as to what is possible.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Mark, 

 What brakes are you running on your Sam?  I was thinking about doing 
 the Snoqualmie Pass on mine, but thought fenders would be a no-go if I 
 wanted to use Paul Minimotos.  Based on the 52mm fender size though, I'm 
 now wondering if it isn't actually possible.  Paul said 44mm tires are the 
 max for the Minimotos, but I think their video also had 50 or 52 mm 
 fenders 
 with the brakes as well.  

 Thanks,
 Joe

 On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-6 David Baldi wrote:

> I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. 
> Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have 
>> minimal clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini 
>> Motos mini cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same 
>> setup on Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the 
>> brake 
>> bridge and brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the 
>> GravelKing 1.9's (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, 
>> minimal clearance, but it rolled.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before 
>>> this month's release.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>>
 Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think 
 I could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 
 38 
 is excellent though.

 On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:

 For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
 Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 
 2018 
 Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for 
 either 
 component.

 Mark

 On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:

> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable 
> limit on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, 
> especially 
> on the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max 
> clearance to 
> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really 
> can't go 
> much bigger. 
>
> - Nathan
>

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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Joseph Willms]

Mark, that's the ticket! Looks like I found one 
 using 42 mm Soma Cazaderos and Sim 
Works by Honjo Fenders (Turtle 58 mm from the looks of it) with a Minimoto! 
Thank you!

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 10:31:49 PM UTC-6 Joseph Willms wrote:

> Mark, I'll look through there now. Thank you!
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:09:24 PM UTC-6 Mark Allen wrote:
>
>> Joe – I'm using Paul Touring Cantis, haven't tried them with V brakes. 
>> Looking at Blue Lug's Hillborne gallery 
>> ,
>>  
>> they seem to have a few builds with Minimotos and 40mm+ tires and some with 
>> fenders, maybe that will give you some clues as to what is possible.
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, 
>>>
>>> What brakes are you running on your Sam?  I was thinking about doing the 
>>> Snoqualmie Pass on mine, but thought fenders would be a no-go if I wanted 
>>> to use Paul Minimotos.  Based on the 52mm fender size though, I'm now 
>>> wondering if it isn't actually possible.  Paul said 44mm tires are the max 
>>> for the Minimotos, but I think their video also had 50 or 52 mm fenders 
>>> with the brakes as well.  
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-6 David Baldi wrote:
>>>
 I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. 
 Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9

 On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:

> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have 
> minimal clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini 
> Motos mini cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same 
> setup on Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake 
> bridge and brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the 
> GravelKing 1.9's (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, 
> minimal clearance, but it rolled.
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
>> month's release.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
>>> could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 
>>> is 
>>> excellent though.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>>>
>>> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
>>> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 
>>> 2018 
>>> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
>>> component.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable 
 limit on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, 
 especially 
 on the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max 
 clearance to 
 prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't 
 go 
 much bigger. 

 - Nathan

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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Joseph Willms]

Mark, I'll look through there now. Thank you!

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:09:24 PM UTC-6 Mark Allen wrote:

> Joe – I'm using Paul Touring Cantis, haven't tried them with V brakes. 
> Looking at Blue Lug's Hillborne gallery 
> ,
>  
> they seem to have a few builds with Minimotos and 40mm+ tires and some with 
> fenders, maybe that will give you some clues as to what is possible.
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Mark, 
>>
>> What brakes are you running on your Sam?  I was thinking about doing the 
>> Snoqualmie Pass on mine, but thought fenders would be a no-go if I wanted 
>> to use Paul Minimotos.  Based on the 52mm fender size though, I'm now 
>> wondering if it isn't actually possible.  Paul said 44mm tires are the max 
>> for the Minimotos, but I think their video also had 50 or 52 mm fenders 
>> with the brakes as well.  
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>>
>> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-6 David Baldi wrote:
>>
>>> I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. 
>>> Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>>>
 I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have 
 minimal clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini 
 Motos mini cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same 
 setup on Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake 
 bridge and brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the 
 GravelKing 1.9's (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, 
 minimal clearance, but it rolled.

 On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:

> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
> month's release.
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>
>> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
>> could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 
>> is 
>> excellent though.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>>
>> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
>> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 
>> 2018 
>> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
>> component.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable 
>>> limit on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, 
>>> especially 
>>> on the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance 
>>> to 
>>> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't 
>>> go 
>>> much bigger. 
>>>
>>> - Nathan
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Mark Allen]

Joe – I'm using Paul Touring Cantis, haven't tried them with V brakes. 
Looking at Blue Lug's Hillborne gallery 
,
 
they seem to have a few builds with Minimotos and 40mm+ tires and some with 
fenders, maybe that will give you some clues as to what is possible.

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-5 willms...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark, 
>
> What brakes are you running on your Sam?  I was thinking about doing the 
> Snoqualmie Pass on mine, but thought fenders would be a no-go if I wanted 
> to use Paul Minimotos.  Based on the 52mm fender size though, I'm now 
> wondering if it isn't actually possible.  Paul said 44mm tires are the max 
> for the Minimotos, but I think their video also had 50 or 52 mm fenders 
> with the brakes as well.  
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-6 David Baldi wrote:
>
>> I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. 
>> Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9
>>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>>
>>> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have minimal 
>>> clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini Motos mini 
>>> cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same setup on 
>>> Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake bridge and 
>>> brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the GravelKing 1.9's 
>>> (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, minimal clearance, 
>>> but it rolled.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
 month's release.

 On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:

> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
> could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 
> is 
> excellent though.
>
> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>
> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 
> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
> component.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable 
>> limit on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, 
>> especially 
>> on the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance 
>> to 
>> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't 
>> go 
>> much bigger. 
>>
>> - Nathan
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Joseph Willms]

Mark, 

What brakes are you running on your Sam?  I was thinking about doing the 
Snoqualmie Pass on mine, but thought fenders would be a no-go if I wanted 
to use Paul Minimotos.  Based on the 52mm fender size though, I'm now 
wondering if it isn't actually possible.  Paul said 44mm tires are the max 
for the Minimotos, but I think their video also had 50 or 52 mm fenders 
with the brakes as well.  

Thanks,
Joe

On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-6 David Baldi wrote:

> I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. 
> Feels fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have minimal 
>> clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini Motos mini 
>> cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same setup on 
>> Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake bridge and 
>> brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the GravelKing 1.9's 
>> (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, minimal clearance, 
>> but it rolled.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
>>> month's release.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>>
 Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
 could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is 
 excellent though.

 On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:

 For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
 Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 
 Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
 component.

 Mark

 On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:

> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit 
> on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on 
> the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to 
> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go 
> much bigger. 
>
> - Nathan
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[David Baldi]

I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. Feels 
fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:

> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have minimal 
> clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini Motos mini 
> cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same setup on 
> Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake bridge and 
> brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the GravelKing 1.9's 
> (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, minimal clearance, 
> but it rolled.
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
>> month's release.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
>>> could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is 
>>> excellent though.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>>>
>>> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
>>> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 
>>> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
>>> component.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit 
 on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on 
 the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to 
 prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go 
 much bigger. 

 - Nathan

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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[diekaiser]

I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have minimal 
clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini Motos mini 
cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same setup on 
Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake bridge and 
brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the GravelKing 1.9's 
(non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, minimal clearance, 
but it rolled.

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:

> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
> month's release.
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>
>> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
>> could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is 
>> excellent though.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>>
>> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
>> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 
>> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
>> component.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit 
>>> on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on 
>>> the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to 
>>> prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go 
>>> much bigger. 
>>>
>>> - Nathan
>>>
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Mark Allen]

Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
month's release.

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:

> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I could 
> do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is 
> excellent though.
>
> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>
> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 
> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
> component.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit on 
>> my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on the 
>> rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to prevent 
>> warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go much 
>> bigger. 
>>
>> - Nathan
>>
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[James Warren]

Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I could do 
fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is excellent 
though.

> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
> 
> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene Herse 
> Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 Hillborne 
> perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either component.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
> To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit on my 
> 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on the rear. 
> I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to prevent 
> warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go much 
> bigger. 
> 
> - Nathan
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[James Warren]

Big Ben 50’s under sidepull brakes on a Hillborne. That is absolutely the 
limit. But it worked and rode great.

This is on a 2TT greyish blue 62 cm frame bought in 2014.

-Jimmy

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen the limit listed as 47-48mm without fenders on the Riv site but I 
> suspect some of you have pushed the limits. 
> How fat did you go?
> 
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Ray Varella]

I’ve seen the limit listed as 47-48mm without fenders on the Riv site but I 
suspect some of you have pushed the limits. 
How fat did you go?

Thank you 
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