[RBW] How to make your own saddle bag quick release for $1.00. This also works for sprung saddles.

[Pancake]

Great idea, definitely will do something similar for my Acorn bag that’s a 
hassle to take on and off with my Flyer and B67 saddles. 

Rather than washers at the ends, I have a couple alternatives:
1. Put some indentations into the dowel for the bag straps to rest in. Removes 
weight rather than adding it and should give a little extra hold for the straps 
to stay in place.
Or
2. Use a metal rod or bag stay that’s bent forward slightly at the ends - would 
be smaller and the ‘hooks’ and the ends would keep the bag in place with even 
less width I expect. 

I’ll start experimenting! New life for my acorn seat bag!

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Re: [RBW] How to make your own saddle bag quick release for $1.00. This also works for sprung saddles.

[REC (Roberta)]

Patrick,

I started with an idea that the dowel should be about 1 1/2" wider than the 
outside distance of my straps.  They cannot move too much to either side, 
since the "other' strap has a stopping point with the zip tie.So, I 
said to my brother-in-law, "about this long, please."  Until tonight I 
didn't know actually how long he made it, but this works for my fairly 
smooth rides.  If one rides more aggressively or the bike and bag jostles a 
bit when riding, oversized washers on the end would work.  The dowel cannot 
be too long, or else you'd have a hard time slipping the loops off.

I'm not an engineer, but I live in the city and was getting really tired of 
threading my straps thru every time I took off my bag.  And, they are 
harder to thread when there's springs to contend with.

This has worked well for me for the last month or two that I've been riding 
with this set up.  

BTW, the bag is sitting on a rack, but I think this would work well without 
a rack too, but I'd definitely put a "stopping" device on the ends if I 
didn't have a rack.

Roberta

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 9:15:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Admirably simple, and it looks secure. How do you judge the maximum dowel 
> length -- for security -- that allows easy removal? Simply trial and error?
>
> Perhaps one of the smaller auto hose clamps might be more secure? You can 
> find these at True Value as well as auto parts stores.
>
> I've made pretty effective QR holders for bags by shaping -- cutting and 
> bending -- Nitto-type arms out of stiff aluminum plate, and using a hollow 
> metal rod -- about front axle diameter -- and a front QR; the Nittos are 
> better of course but work best with Brooks-type saddles where the rear 
> rails are near vertical; with Flites and other saddles where the ends of 
> the rails have a less acute upward angle, the Nitto puts the bag quite low. 
> If you can do simple sheet metal cutting and bending, you can for arms that 
> extend pretty much horizontally. I used small U bolts to clamp to the rails.
>
> Sorry, it has been years since I made one and I can't provide photos.
>
> Besides the Nitto, Carradice makes -- besides those models that don't 
> release quickly -- several QR saddle bag holders, including one that must 
> not be commonly sold in the US that hooks into Brooks loops (or I daresay 
> Cyclo or VO clamp-on loops) and cinches around the seatpost. Then there is 
> the Bagman QR model and the SQR.
>
>
> https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/saddle-fixing-systems/carradice-classic-saddlebag-rack
>
>
> https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/saddle-fixing-systems/carradice-classic-saddlebag-rack
>
> And this seems to be relatively new: 
> https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/saddle-fixing-systems/bagman-quick-release-saddlebag-clamp
>
> At least, I don't recall seeing it ~4 years ago when I was looking for QR 
> clamps for my Matthews; perhaps it's not new.
>
> I wish Rivendell would make a Silver-quality bag holder that works with 
> Flite-type saddles (ie, with non-vertical rails); an adaption of the Nitto 
> qr clamp ought to be easy.
>
> Of all the clamps, the SQR holds bags highest -- necessary to carry a bag 
> when there is little distance between tire and saddle, as when you have 
> tires almost 30" tall (29.6").
>
> Patrick Moore, who presently favors the SQR.
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 6:49 PM REC (Roberta)  > wrote:
>
>> RBW content--this is on my beloved Joe Appaloosa and I'll be making 
>> another one for my A. Homer Hilsen.  I love the Nitto one on the Riv site, 
>> but it cannot be used with sprung saddles.
>>
>> The idea is to have the dowel long enough so the straps won’t work their 
>> way off by themselves, but short enough so you can slide the straps off 
>> fairly easily.   My dowel is 7 3/8” long and that’s plenty long.
>>
>> You'll need:
>>
>> One 7 - 7 ½” long dowel.  I used a ¾” wide dowel, but I suspect a ½” 
>> would work just as well.
>>
>> Two zip ties
>>
>>  
>>
>> Zip tie the dowel to the INSIDE side of each saddle bag loop--for the 
>> left loop, zip tie to the right; for the right loop, zip tie to the left.   
>> Make it fairly snug, but no need to over tighten.  You need to make sure 
>> the dowel won’t slide out on its own.
>>
>>
>> Slide on the pre-buckled bag straps, first one side, and then the other. 
>>   Your straps should be sitting just below the saddle loops, in the same 
>> position as if you had threaded them thru the loops.   Voila!
>>
>>
>> To remove the bag, just slide the strap from one side first, then the 
>> other side.  It helps if there’s a little movement in the dowel.
>>
>>
>> To make the dowel “disappear,” paint it the color of your bag or saddle.  
>> Or, have fun with markers and “art” it up!
>>
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Re: [RBW] How to make your own saddle bag quick release for $1.00. This also works for sprung saddles.

[Patrick Moore]

Admirably simple, and it looks secure. How do you judge the maximum dowel
length -- for security -- that allows easy removal? Simply trial and error?

Perhaps one of the smaller auto hose clamps might be more secure? You can
find these at True Value as well as auto parts stores.

I've made pretty effective QR holders for bags by shaping -- cutting and
bending -- Nitto-type arms out of stiff aluminum plate, and using a hollow
metal rod -- about front axle diameter -- and a front QR; the Nittos are
better of course but work best with Brooks-type saddles where the rear
rails are near vertical; with Flites and other saddles where the ends of
the rails have a less acute upward angle, the Nitto puts the bag quite low.
If you can do simple sheet metal cutting and bending, you can for arms that
extend pretty much horizontally. I used small U bolts to clamp to the rails.

Sorry, it has been years since I made one and I can't provide photos.

Besides the Nitto, Carradice makes -- besides those models that don't
release quickly -- several QR saddle bag holders, including one that must
not be commonly sold in the US that hooks into Brooks loops (or I daresay
Cyclo or VO clamp-on loops) and cinches around the seatpost. Then there is
the Bagman QR model and the SQR.

https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/saddle-fixing-systems/carradice-classic-saddlebag-rack

https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/saddle-fixing-systems/carradice-classic-saddlebag-rack

And this seems to be relatively new:
https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/saddle-fixing-systems/bagman-quick-release-saddlebag-clamp

At least, I don't recall seeing it ~4 years ago when I was looking for QR
clamps for my Matthews; perhaps it's not new.

I wish Rivendell would make a Silver-quality bag holder that works with
Flite-type saddles (ie, with non-vertical rails); an adaption of the Nitto
qr clamp ought to be easy.

Of all the clamps, the SQR holds bags highest -- necessary to carry a bag
when there is little distance between tire and saddle, as when you have
tires almost 30" tall (29.6").

Patrick Moore, who presently favors the SQR.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 6:49 PM REC (Roberta)  wrote:

> RBW content--this is on my beloved Joe Appaloosa and I'll be making
> another one for my A. Homer Hilsen.  I love the Nitto one on the Riv site,
> but it cannot be used with sprung saddles.
>
> The idea is to have the dowel long enough so the straps won’t work their
> way off by themselves, but short enough so you can slide the straps off
> fairly easily.   My dowel is 7 3/8” long and that’s plenty long.
>
> You'll need:
>
> One 7 - 7 ½” long dowel.  I used a ¾” wide dowel, but I suspect a ½”
> would work just as well.
>
> Two zip ties
>
>
>
> Zip tie the dowel to the INSIDE side of each saddle bag loop--for the left
> loop, zip tie to the right; for the right loop, zip tie to the left.   Make
> it fairly snug, but no need to over tighten.  You need to make sure the
> dowel won’t slide out on its own.
>
>
> Slide on the pre-buckled bag straps, first one side, and then the other.
>   Your straps should be sitting just below the saddle loops, in the same
> position as if you had threaded them thru the loops.   Voila!
>
>
> To remove the bag, just slide the strap from one side first, then the
> other side.  It helps if there’s a little movement in the dowel.
>
>
> To make the dowel “disappear,” paint it the color of your bag or saddle.  Or,
> have fun with markers and “art” it up!
>
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