Re: [RBW] Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Patrick Shea
Hey Joe:
I'll take the shifters if you have em still. I can even pick them up.

Cheers,
Patrick shea

On Sunday, June 22, 2014, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a set of those Simplex shifters, and will gladly sell them along to
 anyone who might be interested (along with the Silver stem mount where they
 currently reside, if you'd like). They're the most beautiful downtubers
 ever, but I think Silvers shift better.

 JB

 On Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:40:43 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 This time it is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on
 the shifter or what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic
 ability, but the great thing is,
 it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I may never go
 back. This is one more thing that Grant is right about. I wonder, could a
 set of Silver bar ends be
 in my future?

 Quality NOS sets are harder to find these days, but if you can find a
 set, I prefer Simplex Retrofriction to Silvers.

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[RBW] Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-21 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've been fighting with the shifting on my Hilsen for months now. I have a 
3x9 Ultegra drive train with Dura Ace bar end shifters. I'm admittedly not 
the best mechanic in the world but I built up my girlfriend's Sam and it 
shifted just fine, even after switching out Mustache bars w/bar ends to 
Albatross w/thumbies. I built my Hunqapillar up with less than stellar 
shifting. So last spring I put on a new chain, cassette, chain rings, and 
cables. It's never really been great since. It slipped and skipped, 
especially in the lower gears (which, of course, made it really 
inconvenient when climbing steep stuff.) I changed cables again recently 
with the same middling results. It wasn't unrideable but it was pretty 
annoying. I have my first 400k coming up next Saturday, so last night I 
started from scratch. I loosened the rear derailer cable (the front has 
always been fine) and used Sheldon Brown's method of setting up on the 
third smallest cog and getting the cable snug, with both barrel adjusters 
one full turn back from all the way tightened. I went on a 75 mile, hilly 
route today with similar results. It was a wee bit better but it still 
jumped around, mostly in the lowest gears on both the middle and small 
chainrings. I tried going both ways with the barrel adjusters to no avail. 
I would shift a notch but still have to try and trim a half notch or so to 
get it right. So finally I stopped and took the shifter out of index mode 
and into friction mode. Viola! It shifted like butter! What a wonderful 
relief. I had tried index mode once before but only briefly. This time it 
is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on the shifter or 
what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic ability, but the 
great thing is, it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I 
may never go back. This is one more thing that Grant is right about. I 
wonder, could a set of Silver bar ends be in my future? 

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