Re: [RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread René Sterental 
Great photos and updates Val!

René

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the kind words! Yes, Patrick, it was my first tour on
> the Joe. It was great! I toured on a Surly Straggler 650B last year and
> that bike had no life in it. The Joe is fun to ride (and pretty to view)
> and that adds positive energy to the experience.
>
> Richard -- yes, those are Berthoud special small panniers. I am surprised
> by how much I love them. When I first got them, I laughed at how small and
> cute and seemingly pointless they are but they are actually the perfect
> size for a long day trip. I can fit tools, tubes, lunch, a windbreaker, and
> more in them. I use one of the outside pockets for my little camera and the
> other for quick access to lip balm, sunscreen, etc. I do not notice them at
> all in terms of weight or handling and I like how minimal they look on the
> bike. They are not quite big enough for me to use on an overnight (with a
> change of outfit + toiletries) but would be adequate in conjunction with a
> large handlebar bag. My set came with klickfix attachments, which I don't
> generally like for aesthetic reasons, but they work great and enable me to
> quickly pop a bag on and off the rack without any fiddling.
>
> For what it is worth, I expected I would really prefer the Berthoud large
> rack top bag but I have not found any way to use that bag. I can't get it
> on securely. It is too bulky to fit things neatly.It looks awkward when
> empty. I need to assemble a list of bags I don't use for sale or trade . .
> . .
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:12:21 PM UTC-6, RichS wrote:
>>
>> In the second to last picture are the panniers the Berthoud special small
>> model? Whatever they are I like them. What are your thoughts?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread René Sterental 
Val... without photos we can't really tell if this trip exists or you just
dreamed it! :-)

Glad you had such a great experience!

René

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Valerie Yates  wrote:

> I just completed a credit card tour with my Joe Appaloosa and wanted to
> share my experience. I did the San Juan Skyway going clockwise from Durango
> CO. I loved the low gears, which made climbing easy, and the upright
> position, from which I could enjoy the spectacular scenery. I swapped the
> stock saddle, which I like on a different bike, for a Brooks B67. I think I
> may have preferred my Flyer Imperial on this route for the climbs. I also
> swapped the very decent stock tires for Marathon Supremes 50-584. I wanted
> something wide, smooth, and puncture resistant and these performed great on
> pavement, chipseal, loose gravel, and over bumps and seams in the road and
> on bridges.  I liked the stock pedals, which were perfectly comfortable
> over long distances because they were grippy but I could move my feet
> around as needed. I had front and rear panniers and a front basket for a
> total of 22 pounds of gear for the week. I didn't even notice the extra
> weight. The bike was very stable both on slow uphills and fast descents and
> was very fun to ride because I was so comfortable. I also really loved the
> German mirror for keeping track of vehicles and riders behind me. The bike
> performed exactly as I had hoped and I am excited to think about where else
> I will go with it.
>
>
> I'd love to hear about trips others have done or plan to do on your Joes.
> I highly recommend the San Juan Skyway. The views are amazing and the
> mountain towns are fun to visit. Every overnight stop has its own brewery.
> . .
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
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Re: [RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Moore 
*I had front and rear panniers and a front basket for a total of 22 pounds
of gear for the week. I didn't even notice the extra weight. The bike was
very stable both on slow uphills and fast descents and was very fun to ride
because I was so comfortable.*

Valerie: very interesting writeup of the JA. It's this sort of review that
makes me keep an open mind to the model; if I were to judge it only by the
photos and description on the website, I'd not be interested.

Can you post photos of your build and your load? Any other photos of the
bike and of the route won't be disparaged, either.

To all: I'm also interested in the JA's ride on dirt roads and easy
singletrack: howzit do?

Lastly: regarding the long tt: has anyone managed to set a JA up with a
high drop bar? I have never been able to get comfortable with any bar
except a drop; my left palm gets numb.

I am not going to buy a new bike soon, but who knows? Would a JA be a nice
touring bike, one of these days?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Valerie Yates  wrote:

> I just completed a credit card tour with my Joe Appaloosa and wanted to
> share my experience. I did the San Juan Skyway going clockwise from Durango
> CO. I loved the low gears, which made climbing easy, and the upright
> position, from which I could enjoy the spectacular scenery. I swapped the
> stock saddle, which I like on a different bike, for a Brooks B67. I think I
> may have preferred my Flyer Imperial on this route for the climbs. I also
> swapped the very decent stock tires for Marathon Supremes 50-584. I wanted
> something wide, smooth, and puncture resistant and these performed great on
> pavement, chipseal, loose gravel, and over bumps and seams in the road and
> on bridges.  I liked the stock pedals, which were perfectly comfortable
> over long distances because they were grippy but I could move my feet
> around as needed. I had front and rear panniers and a front basket for a
> total of 22 pounds of gear for the week. I didn't even notice the extra
> weight. The bike was very stable both on slow uphills and fast descents and
> was very fun to ride because I was so comfortable. I also really loved the
> German mirror for keeping track of vehicles and riders behind me. The bike
> performed exactly as I had hoped and I am excited to think about where else
> I will go with it.
>
>
> I'd love to hear about trips others have done or plan to do on your Joes.
> I highly recommend the San Juan Skyway. The views are amazing and the
> mountain towns are fun to visit. Every overnight stop has its own brewery.
> . .
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Valerie Yates 


I just completed a credit card tour with my Joe Appaloosa and wanted to 
share my experience. I did the San Juan Skyway going clockwise from Durango 
CO. I loved the low gears, which made climbing easy, and the upright 
position, from which I could enjoy the spectacular scenery. I swapped the 
stock saddle, which I like on a different bike, for a Brooks B67. I think I 
may have preferred my Flyer Imperial on this route for the climbs. I also 
swapped the very decent stock tires for Marathon Supremes 50-584. I wanted 
something wide, smooth, and puncture resistant and these performed great on 
pavement, chipseal, loose gravel, and over bumps and seams in the road and 
on bridges.  I liked the stock pedals, which were perfectly comfortable 
over long distances because they were grippy but I could move my feet 
around as needed. I had front and rear panniers and a front basket for a 
total of 22 pounds of gear for the week. I didn't even notice the extra 
weight. The bike was very stable both on slow uphills and fast descents and 
was very fun to ride because I was so comfortable. I also really loved the 
German mirror for keeping track of vehicles and riders behind me. The bike 
performed exactly as I had hoped and I am excited to think about where else 
I will go with it. 


I'd love to hear about trips others have done or plan to do on your Joes. I 
highly recommend the San Juan Skyway. The views are amazing and the 
mountain towns are fun to visit. Every overnight stop has its own brewery. 
. . 

Val in Boulder, CO

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