Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-21 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I needed to get either a Nitto lugged seatpost (expensive) or a Velo
Orange seatback seatpost in order to get my seat far enough back to
take the weight off my hands. I also have a long torso.

Toshi


On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:36 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 You might look at your saddle position. Peter Jon White has much good
 to say about where to put it so that your torso and not your arms hold
 you up. It works for me.

 In fact, it was Grant long ago who told me, get your saddle back and
 your bars up and back, and it fixed my position problems. Note that
 bars up and back meant 8 cm extension and 3-5 cm below bar instead
 of 140 mm extension and 5 inches below bar.

 Broken record: butt back helps your torso hold itself up.

 Patrick long torso Moore


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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-21 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Don't forget Paul Comp's offering: http://paulcomp.com/seatpost.html  
Kinda' long for a road bike, but it can be cut down. Price point between 
the Nitto and VO one. FWIW, I had to send my VO back as it was out of spec 
and slipped.

On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:45:06 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote:

 I needed to get either a Nitto lugged seatpost (expensive) or a Velo 
 Orange seatback seatpost in order to get my seat far enough back to 
 take the weight off my hands. I also have a long torso. 

 Toshi 


 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:36 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  You might look at your saddle position. Peter Jon White has much good 
  to say about where to put it so that your torso and not your arms hold 
  you up. It works for me. 
  
  In fact, it was Grant long ago who told me, get your saddle back and 
  your bars up and back, and it fixed my position problems. Note that 
  bars up and back meant 8 cm extension and 3-5 cm below bar instead 
  of 140 mm extension and 5 inches below bar. 
  
  Broken record: butt back helps your torso hold itself up. 
  
  Patrick long torso Moore 
  


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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't forget Paul Comp's offering: http://paulcomp.com/seatpost.html  Kinda'
 long for a road bike, but it can be cut down. Price point between the Nitto
 and VO one. FWIW, I had to send my VO back as it was out of spec and
 slipped.



I had the same issue. the seatpost had been over-polished was the
explanation I was given.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-21 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
That's a lot of buffing!

On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:18:03 AM UTC-7, Seth Vidal wrote:



 I had the same issue. the seatpost had been over-polished was the 
 explanation I was given. 

 -sv 


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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-21 Thread Peter Morgano
I do have the VO setback post right  now, no issues with slipping,
thankfully and I have the stem as far up as it can reasonably go and still
have arm pain.  I was thinking the 56 Bomba might solve my problem since it
would extend the top tube and still give me at least a bit of standover
with Hetres on it. I doubt I would or could go big knobby tires but since
most of my riding is on NYC streets or dirt paths so doubtful I would need
anything like that. I really dont want to go longer/taller stem since I can
feel it flex up front when I am climbing hills and holding the bars. The
fact that I am 250 also moves me towards the Bomba as well. Keep an eye out
for a potential 650b Hilsen for sale in the next few weeks I think.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Don't forget Paul Comp's offering: http://paulcomp.com/seatpost.html
 Kinda'
  long for a road bike, but it can be cut down. Price point between the
 Nitto
  and VO one. FWIW, I had to send my VO back as it was out of spec and
  slipped.
 
 

 I had the same issue. the seatpost had been over-polished was the
 explanation I was given.

 -sv

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[RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-20 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Wow. 85PBH meets 85SO. When bone meets steel, you don't flesh in between...

But... If you don't use 55mm tires (doesn't RBW measure stand over with a 
maximum sized tire?) and if you are likely to straddle the bike behind the 
mid-point (I.e. don't have a large backside forcing you forward), and since RBW 
gives a thumb's up... I'd say go for the 56 Bombadil. It'll definitely differ 
from the 56 Hilsen. I wouldn't go buying up 14cm stems or anything... I think 
your current 10cm (not max'd out vertically) is a decent starting point. You 
might even wind up with a shorter extension. In fact, you may want not to get a 
stem with a shorter quill. It is possible to insert a quill too deeply, right?

Sounds like a job for a 150mm Bullmoose bar!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who wonders whether a 66cm-wide bar works in NYC

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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You might look at your saddle position. Peter Jon White has much good
to say about where to put it so that your torso and not your arms hold
you up. It works for me.

In fact, it was Grant long ago who told me, get your saddle back and
your bars up and back, and it fixed my position problems. Note that
bars up and back meant 8 cm extension and 3-5 cm below bar instead
of 140 mm extension and 5 inches below bar.

Broken record: butt back helps your torso hold itself up.

Patrick long torso Moore

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 And boy are my arms tired.  Out for a late night ride so rode over to
 the shore path but by the time I got back my arms were killing me.  I
 have been juggling a few different bikes lately but my latest setup is
 a 56cm Homer (650b-Hetres) with a 10cm technomic and Albatross bars,
 about 1 inch above the saddle.  I rode MTBs for most of my youth then
 fixies for a while with bullhorn bars so not sure if it is an issue of
 the bars being too close or not.  I finally did a proper measurement
 and have a 85pbh and am 5'11 with a longish torso.  I was looking at
 a Bombadil so I could stay with 650b and to possibly to try and strech
 me out a bit but was thinking that the 52 would be basically the same
 as what I have now but the 56 might be a bit tight with standover. Was
 told by Rivendell that I could go either way but I  ride in NYC so I
 do need to straddle the top tube every now and then at the longer
 traffic lights. I cant see doing any actual MTBing outside of fire
 trails so not so concerned about bail outs over the top tube. I am
 throwing myself to the knowledge of the group here yet again to see if
 anyone has some wise words.  Thank you all.

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[RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-20 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
crap... errata...



...you don't *want* flesh in between...



and



you may want not to get a stem with a shorter quill

should not have not in it



Sorry!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-19 Thread Peter M
And boy are my arms tired.  Out for a late night ride so rode over to
the shore path but by the time I got back my arms were killing me.  I
have been juggling a few different bikes lately but my latest setup is
a 56cm Homer (650b-Hetres) with a 10cm technomic and Albatross bars,
about 1 inch above the saddle.  I rode MTBs for most of my youth then
fixies for a while with bullhorn bars so not sure if it is an issue of
the bars being too close or not.  I finally did a proper measurement
and have a 85pbh and am 5'11 with a longish torso.  I was looking at
a Bombadil so I could stay with 650b and to possibly to try and strech
me out a bit but was thinking that the 52 would be basically the same
as what I have now but the 56 might be a bit tight with standover. Was
told by Rivendell that I could go either way but I  ride in NYC so I
do need to straddle the top tube every now and then at the longer
traffic lights. I cant see doing any actual MTBing outside of fire
trails so not so concerned about bail outs over the top tube. I am
throwing myself to the knowledge of the group here yet again to see if
anyone has some wise words.  Thank you all.

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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-19 Thread MSmith
Peter M wrote:

...my arms were killing me.  I
have been juggling a few different bikes lately...

I suggest you stop juggling bicycles and your arms will stop hurting.

Or maybe start by juggling balls or beanbags, then clubs, then maybe
chainsaws or bowling balls.  It takes a lot of practice before you start
with bicycles.  By that time your arms will be used to it and they won't
hurt as much.

Good luck- Mike

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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

2012-05-19 Thread Peter Morgano
That must be it, damn 8th grade girlfriend taught me all wrong most likely.
I will start juggling carbon bikes, they are so lightweight after all.

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:08 AM, MSmith bee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter M wrote:

 ...my arms were killing me.  I
 have been juggling a few different bikes lately...

 I suggest you stop juggling bicycles and your arms will stop hurting.

 Or maybe start by juggling balls or beanbags, then clubs, then maybe
 chainsaws or bowling balls.  It takes a lot of practice before you start
 with bicycles.  By that time your arms will be used to it and they won't
 hurt as much.

 Good luck- Mike



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