Re: [RBW] Locks

[Patrick Kelly]

The one, the best, the u-lock that I most highly recommend is the Abus
Granit Futura 64, aka U-Lock 64/120HB150

It’s small, it’s light, it’s extra hardened. It’s rated by the manufacturer
as more secure that some of their other (heavier) u-locks.

Advantages/features of this lock:

   - small & light
   - locks both sides of the U rather than just one end
   - keyhole covered, keeps out crud
   - stronger/harder steel than other, heavier locks

Disadvantages/drawbacks:

   - no good bicycle mounting option
   - sometimes too small
   - not as secure as top-end u-locks
   - more expensive than less-good locks

http://blog.phlatphrog.com/the-one-true-bike-lock

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:

> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this
> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/
> Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-
> locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>
> Any suggestions?
> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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Re: [RBW] Locks

[drew]

The manufacturer rating is different from ART and Sold secure. Those two are 
independent testing agencies that rate locks in a more objective way under real 
world conditions. 

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Re: [RBW] Locks

[Patrick Moore]

The mfr rates it at "4". Does this mean it is more secure than the Tigr at
"2"?

Does that same organization do all the ratings?

And, what exactly do the numbers mean?

Does anyone know?

If indeed "4" is better than "2" in a way material to bike safety, this
puck looks like a very good product at a very good price.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Jon BALER  wrote:

> serfas puck lock
>
> https://www.serfas.com/products/view/319/referer:products%7Cindex%7Cbike-
> accessories%7Clocks
>
> can be combined with a cable for additional security on the wheels
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Locks

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I really like the Abus lock you referenced. It has a sturdy but lightweight 
holster that mounts to water bottle cage braze-ons.  I put mine under the down 
tube on my Bombadil and Atlantis, and I don't even notice it's there until I 
need it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Surlyprof 
> wrote:

Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has been 
nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than a 
standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday commuting 
the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a Wald basket, 
Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On the weekends and 
summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the wheels for 32 hole 
Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and Shopsack, swap the med 
saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun, light rides without the 
baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I need to stop anywhere, I still 
strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.  Does anyone have a suggestion for 
smaller, lightweight lock solutions for quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I 
may purchase that is about 1/2 the weight of my Ulock but they say it is a 
tight fit in a Keven's bag (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  
Another alternative is this Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't 
seem to buy me much weight loss from my Kryptonite Evolution 
(https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).

Any suggestions?
John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front wheel and 
downtube while getting a coffee"

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Re: [RBW] Locks

[Jon BALER]

serfas puck lock

https://www.serfas.com/products/view/319/referer:products%7Cindex%7Cbike-accessories%7Clocks

can be combined with a cable for additional security on the wheels

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 11:36:04 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> For quick stops where I won't be far from the bike I use what I call my 
> "touring lock", a Palmy aluminum u-lock:
> https://www.amazon.com/Palmy-Mini-Aluminium-U-lock-Black/dp/B003VLIWGE
>
> It is light, cheap, and provides the appearance that you bike is locked 
> with a u-lock. (They sell them in many fun colors. I recommend the black 
> one I linked above, because looking like a real u-lock is half the game 
> here.)
>
> To be sure, it provides relatively little actual security. I haven't 
> tried, but I suspect you could likely defeat it by just banging on it with 
> a rock a bunch and then pulling hard. 
>
> But since it does such a convincing impression of actual security folks 
> tend to leave it alone for at least long enough for me to run in to a shop 
> or have lunch. 
>
>
> Reed
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Surlyprof  > wrote:
>
>> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has 
>> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than 
>> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday 
>> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a 
>> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On 
>> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the 
>> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and 
>> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun, 
>> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I 
>> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.  
>> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for 
>> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the 
>> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this 
>> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight 
>> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (
>> https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500
>> ).
>>
>> Any suggestions?  
>> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front 
>> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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Re: [RBW] Locks

[Reed Kennedy]

For quick stops where I won't be far from the bike I use what I call my
"touring lock", a Palmy aluminum u-lock:
https://www.amazon.com/Palmy-Mini-Aluminium-U-lock-Black/dp/B003VLIWGE

It is light, cheap, and provides the appearance that you bike is locked
with a u-lock. (They sell them in many fun colors. I recommend the black
one I linked above, because looking like a real u-lock is half the game
here.)

To be sure, it provides relatively little actual security. I haven't tried,
but I suspect you could likely defeat it by just banging on it with a rock
a bunch and then pulling hard.

But since it does such a convincing impression of actual security folks
tend to leave it alone for at least long enough for me to run in to a shop
or have lunch.


Reed

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:

> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this
> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/
> Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-
> locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>
> Any suggestions?
> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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[RBW] Locks

[Lungimsam]

Tigr mini?
http://tigrlock.com/mini/

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Re: [RBW] Locks

[Lungimsam]

Tigr mini?
https://tigrlock.com/

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Re: [RBW] Locks

[René Sterental]

It's the 5, the one I have; it's the smallest.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, René Sterental  wrote:

> Actually, it might be the 4, the smallest one. I'm checking as there are a
> variety of mini lock models and I think some are larger than others.
>
> René
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016, René Sterental  > wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the
>> Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked
>> through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top
>> rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small
>> Sackville front trunksack exactly.
>>
>> René
>>
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Surlyprof  wrote:
>>
>>> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
>>> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
>>> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
>>> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
>>> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
>>> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
>>> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
>>> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
>>> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
>>> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
>>> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
>>> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is
>>> this Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much
>>> weight loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobi
>>> le-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bor
>>> do-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
>>> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Locks

[René Sterental]

Actually, it might be the 4, the smallest one. I'm checking as there are a
variety of mini lock models and I think some are larger than others.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, René Sterental  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the
> Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked
> through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top
> rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small
> Sackville front trunksack exactly.
>
> René
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Surlyprof  > wrote:
>
>> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
>> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
>> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
>> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
>> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
>> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
>> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
>> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
>> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
>> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
>> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
>> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
>> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this
>> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
>> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobi
>> le-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/
>> Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
>> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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Re: [RBW] Locks

[René Sterental]

Hi John,

For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the
Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked
through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top
rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small
Sackville front trunksack exactly.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, Surlyprof  wrote:

> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this
> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/
> Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-
> locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>
> Any suggestions?
> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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[RBW] Locks

[Surlyprof]

Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has been 
nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than a 
standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday 
commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a 
Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On 
the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the 
wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and 
Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun, 
light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I 
need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack. 
 Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for 
quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the 
weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag 
(http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this 
Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight 
loss from my Kryptonite Evolution 
(https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).

Any suggestions?  
John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front wheel 
and downtube while getting a coffee"

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