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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-16 Thread Ian A

Hmmm. Tax and death, both unavoidable it seems!

My Rawland(s) do make an appearance in town on rare occasion. The 650b 
version does long distance and the 26r conversion doesn't get out much. 
Look for a scrappy orange Rocky Mountain mtb set up single speed with 
scrappy fenders for in town duty! 

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:46:11 PM UTC-7 Andrew S wrote:

> Ian, I could be wrong and would be happy to be corrected, but I think that 
> C receives their Riv frames 'drop-shipped' direct from Taiwan. I vaguely 
> recall discussing this in a conversation with Julian or Simon. Thus they 
> sometimes receive their frames at essentially the same time as Riv HQ does 
> (my eagerly anticipated silver Sam is already on its way out to Alberta!). 
> So they probably have to put Taiwan as the country of origin on the 
> paperwork when subsequently shipping to the U.S., I presume. 
>
> Still hoping to see your Rawland somewhere around town someday!
>
> AndrewS, also in Alberta Canada
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:38 PM Ian A  wrote:
>
>> I think you'll find it's less roulette and more based on the stated 
>> country of origin. It the paperwork shows "Taiwan" as the Country of 
>> Origin" the frame will likely attract duty. If it shows a NAFTA country of 
>> origin (USA, Canada or Mexico) it should be duty exempt. If it shows "US 
>> Goods Returning" on the paperwork it will certainly be zero duty going into 
>> the US.
>>
>> Considering the Gus was from Taiwan, but imported into the USA and then 
>> exported to Canada it would technically (arguably?) be US Goods Returning 
>> to the USA. I think a strong case could be made for that and under country 
>> of origin on the customs form for US Goods Returning. Unless it gets 
>> inspected and the Border Agency disagree for some reason.
>>
>> It all comes down to the information the Customs Broker has to work with. 
>> If C are stating Taiwan or USA or US Goods Returning... Might be worth a 
>> phone call. I can say C are very customer focused and responsive.
>>
>> IanA (who spent a few years in the freight industry and who doesn't miss 
>> the paperwork!) Alberta Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:16:23 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> In my experience of shipping bikes and parts, it's generally a ~$50 flat 
>>> fee for brokerage clerical charges no matter what and Russian roulette on 
>>> import tax fees. Coming from us to Canada there are various import rules of 
>>> taxation on new vs used related bikez: us parts, us manufacturers, frame, 
>>> frame+wheels. And however customs decides to tax. I've gotten a new Marino 
>>> frame with no costs. I've paid $125 for a used frame and fork and been hit 
>>> with $70 tax. They make it really really frustrating and annoying. Haha. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Whoa! That’s a lot different than Jacob’s experience.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Ronald Halili  wrote:

 I too ordered my Gus from C Cycles at the end of the day of 
 Thursday, 9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From 
 Canada it was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final 
 delivery. I received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding 
 import fees stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for 
 the delivery driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the 
 amount of $243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance 
 fee, I do not know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage 
 fee and import tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the 
 breakdown of my purchase:


 Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange

 (C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping)

 = $2095.83 USD

 + $191.42 USD Import Tax

 + $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee

 = $2339.75 USD

 On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me 
> (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for 
> import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled 
> until I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with 
> "clearance" fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? 
> The 
> closest I have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under 
> $2,500.00 US are less expensive and easier to do than items over 
> $2,500.00. 
> I started a Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a 
> message 
> that clearance fees will be calculated and

Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-16 Thread Andrew S

Ian, I could be wrong and would be happy to be corrected, but I think that
C receives their Riv frames 'drop-shipped' direct from Taiwan. I vaguely
recall discussing this in a conversation with Julian or Simon. Thus they
sometimes receive their frames at essentially the same time as Riv HQ does
(my eagerly anticipated silver Sam is already on its way out to Alberta!).
So they probably have to put Taiwan as the country of origin on the
paperwork when subsequently shipping to the U.S., I presume.

Still hoping to see your Rawland somewhere around town someday!

AndrewS, also in Alberta Canada

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:38 PM Ian A  wrote:

> I think you'll find it's less roulette and more based on the stated
> country of origin. It the paperwork shows "Taiwan" as the Country of
> Origin" the frame will likely attract duty. If it shows a NAFTA country of
> origin (USA, Canada or Mexico) it should be duty exempt. If it shows "US
> Goods Returning" on the paperwork it will certainly be zero duty going into
> the US.
>
> Considering the Gus was from Taiwan, but imported into the USA and then
> exported to Canada it would technically (arguably?) be US Goods Returning
> to the USA. I think a strong case could be made for that and under country
> of origin on the customs form for US Goods Returning. Unless it gets
> inspected and the Border Agency disagree for some reason.
>
> It all comes down to the information the Customs Broker has to work with.
> If C are stating Taiwan or USA or US Goods Returning... Might be worth a
> phone call. I can say C are very customer focused and responsive.
>
> IanA (who spent a few years in the freight industry and who doesn't miss
> the paperwork!) Alberta Canada
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:16:23 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> In my experience of shipping bikes and parts, it's generally a ~$50 flat
>> fee for brokerage clerical charges no matter what and Russian roulette on
>> import tax fees. Coming from us to Canada there are various import rules of
>> taxation on new vs used related bikez: us parts, us manufacturers, frame,
>> frame+wheels. And however customs decides to tax. I've gotten a new Marino
>> frame with no costs. I've paid $125 for a used frame and fork and been hit
>> with $70 tax. They make it really really frustrating and annoying. Haha.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Whoa! That’s a lot different than Jacob’s experience.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Ronald Halili  wrote:
>>>
>>> I too ordered my Gus from C Cycles at the end of the day of Thursday,
>>> 9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From Canada it
>>> was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final delivery. I
>>> received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding import fees
>>> stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for the delivery
>>> driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the amount of
>>> $243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance fee, I do not
>>> know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage fee and import
>>> tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the breakdown of my
>>> purchase:
>>>
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange
>>>
>>> (C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping)
>>>
>>> = $2095.83 USD
>>>
>>> + $191.42 USD Import Tax
>>>
>>> + $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee
>>>
>>> = $2339.75 USD
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me
 (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for
 import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process.

 Cheers,

 Jacob


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:

 Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled
 until I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with
 "clearance" fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The
 closest I have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under
 $2,500.00 US are less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00.
 I started a Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message
 that clearance fees will be calculated and added to order.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-16 Thread Ian A

I think you'll find it's less roulette and more based on the stated country 
of origin. It the paperwork shows "Taiwan" as the Country of Origin" the 
frame will likely attract duty. If it shows a NAFTA country of origin (USA, 
Canada or Mexico) it should be duty exempt. If it shows "US Goods 
Returning" on the paperwork it will certainly be zero duty going into the 
US.

Considering the Gus was from Taiwan, but imported into the USA and then 
exported to Canada it would technically (arguably?) be US Goods Returning 
to the USA. I think a strong case could be made for that and under country 
of origin on the customs form for US Goods Returning. Unless it gets 
inspected and the Border Agency disagree for some reason.

It all comes down to the information the Customs Broker has to work with. 
If C are stating Taiwan or USA or US Goods Returning... Might be worth a 
phone call. I can say C are very customer focused and responsive.

IanA (who spent a few years in the freight industry and who doesn't miss 
the paperwork!) Alberta Canada



On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:16:23 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> In my experience of shipping bikes and parts, it's generally a ~$50 flat 
> fee for brokerage clerical charges no matter what and Russian roulette on 
> import tax fees. Coming from us to Canada there are various import rules of 
> taxation on new vs used related bikez: us parts, us manufacturers, frame, 
> frame+wheels. And however customs decides to tax. I've gotten a new Marino 
> frame with no costs. I've paid $125 for a used frame and fork and been hit 
> with $70 tax. They make it really really frustrating and annoying. Haha. 
>
>
> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Whoa! That’s a lot different than Jacob’s experience.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Ronald Halili  wrote:
>>
>> I too ordered my Gus from C Cycles at the end of the day of Thursday, 
>> 9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From Canada it 
>> was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final delivery. I 
>> received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding import fees 
>> stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for the delivery 
>> driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the amount of 
>> $243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance fee, I do not 
>> know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage fee and import 
>> tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the breakdown of my 
>> purchase:
>>
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange
>>
>> (C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping)
>>
>> = $2095.83 USD
>>
>> + $191.42 USD Import Tax
>>
>> + $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee
>>
>> = $2339.75 USD
>>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me 
>>> (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for 
>>> import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until 
>>> I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" 
>>> fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I 
>>> have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US 
>>> are less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a 
>>> Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that 
>>> clearance fees will be calculated and added to order. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-16 Thread Mackenzy Albright

In my experience of shipping bikes and parts, it's generally a ~$50 flat 
fee for brokerage clerical charges no matter what and Russian roulette on 
import tax fees. Coming from us to Canada there are various import rules of 
taxation on new vs used related bikez: us parts, us manufacturers, frame, 
frame+wheels. And however customs decides to tax. I've gotten a new Marino 
frame with no costs. I've paid $125 for a used frame and fork and been hit 
with $70 tax. They make it really really frustrating and annoying. Haha. 


On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Whoa! That’s a lot different than Jacob’s experience.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Ronald Halili  wrote:
>
> I too ordered my Gus from C Cycles at the end of the day of Thursday, 
> 9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From Canada it 
> was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final delivery. I 
> received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding import fees 
> stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for the delivery 
> driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the amount of 
> $243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance fee, I do not 
> know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage fee and import 
> tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the breakdown of my 
> purchase:
>
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange
>
> (C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping)
>
> = $2095.83 USD
>
> + $191.42 USD Import Tax
>
> + $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee
>
> = $2339.75 USD
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me 
>> (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for 
>> import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until 
>> I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" 
>> fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I 
>> have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US 
>> are less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a 
>> Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that 
>> clearance fees will be calculated and added to order. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-15 Thread Richard Rose

Whoa! That’s a lot different than Jacob’s experience.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Ronald Halili  wrote:I too ordered my Gus from C Cycles at the end of the day of Thursday, 9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From Canada it was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final delivery. I received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding import fees stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for the delivery driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the amount of $243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance fee, I do not know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage fee and import tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the breakdown of my purchase:





Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange
(C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping)
= $2095.83 USD
+ $191.42 USD Import Tax
+ $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee
= $2339.75 USDOn Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. Cheers,JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US are less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that clearance fees will be calculated and added to order.



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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-15 Thread Ronald Halili

I too ordered my Gus from C Cycles at the end of the day of Thursday, 
9/22/22 and it was delivered on Wednesday, 9/28/22 to NYC. From Canada it 
was shipped via Purolator and then transferred to UPS for final delivery. I 
received an email from UPS on Tuesday afternoon regarding import fees 
stating that I could either pay online or have check ready for the delivery 
driver. I chose the latter and wrote a check to UPS for the amount of 
$243.92 USD. As for the original question regarding clearance fee, I do not 
know how it was calculated other than the split of brokerage fee and import 
tax fee that was stated in the UPS email. Here is the breakdown of my 
purchase:

Frame/Fork/Headset/54cm Orange

(C$2600.00 + C$199.19 Shipping)

= $2095.83 USD

+ $191.42 USD Import Tax

+ $52.50 USD Brokerage Fee

= $2339.75 USD

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me 
> (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for 
> import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until I 
> cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" fees 
> associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I have 
> come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US are 
> less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a 
> Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that 
> clearance fees will be calculated and added to order. 
>
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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-12 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch

Shouldn't the dealer be able to answer that for you?

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On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 10:34 AM, Jacob Byard wrote:
I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me
(Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for import
fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process.
Cheers,
Jacob

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose wrote:

Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until I
cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" fees
associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I have come
to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US are less
expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a Bikeflights
estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that clearance fees will be
calculated and added to order.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-12 Thread Richard Rose

Pm’ed you Jacob.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Jacob Byard wrote:I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. Cheers,JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose wrote:Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US are less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that clearance fees will be calculated and added to order.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-12 Thread Jacob Byard

I bought my Gus from C Cycles out of Montreal. They shipped it to me (Pennsylvania) via UPS. I think it took 3 days? UPS sent me the bill for import fees and I think it was around $50. Dead simple process. Cheers,JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Richard Rose wrote:Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until I cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" fees associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I have come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US are less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that clearance fees will be calculated and added to order.

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[RBW] New Gus shipping from Canada

2022-12-12 Thread Richard Rose

Yes, the Gus I found is at a Riv dealer in Canada. Having googled until I 
cannot stand it anymore I ask; anyone have experience with "clearance" fees 
associated with importing a bicycle frame from Canada? The closest I have 
come to uncovering the cost is that items valued under $2,500.00 US are 
less expensive and easier to do than items over $2,500.00. I started a 
Bikeflights estimate and I get the shipping cost and a message that 
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[RBW] New Gus & bottom bracket confusion

2022-12-12 Thread Richard Rose

I have decided to stick with a square taper crank, either White Eno or Riv 
Silver, and I have bottom bracket questions.
Gus BB shell is 73 BSA. The bottom brackets they sell (Shimano & IRD) are 
68. Riv says "use the 113 (spindle) if you have a mountain bike front 
derailleur." But, they also say r.e. the IRD BB, "If you have a Gus or 
Susie with a tire up to 2.5", you'll need a 123 with the right cup spacer." 
But, they do not even show the 123 as being available?
Alternatively, White Industries offers both 68 & 73 widths but the widest 
spindle offering is 121.
So I guess my question is 1. If I go with a Silver double, which bottom 
bracket to buy? 2. If I go with a White Ind. Eno single, which bottom 
bracket? I plan to run 2.5"-2.6" tires.
Thanks in advance for our help.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread Ryan Frahm

I for one would love to see a Gus with EE wings and friction 1x Eagle or 
Garbaruk cassette. Friction shifting a 12 speed cassette feels better to me 
than the 7 speed I have. The spacing feels so perfect!

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 12:26:21 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Frame/ Fork only. So interesting that a lot of folks are running 1x. My 
> dream build might be to install the ee wing crank I already own (170 crank 
> arms) in a 1x setup. I also own (ugly?) Sram GX 12 speed shifter. I was 
> thinking a 9 or 10 cassette? The crank is currently attached to a 30t 
> Absolute Black elliptical ring, which I realize is controversial. But I 
> have enjoyed it. It does not feel weird but I do feel strong on climbs with 
> it. This crank was on my full suspension bike (selling) with a 10-50 SRAM 
> cassette. That 30-50 low worked well for me. I don’t even know if you can 
> get a 50 on other than 12 speed cassettes? Can I use the GX rear derailleur 
> with a cluster that has less than 12 cogs? 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 10, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> On my Gus, I’m running a 1x drivetrain. I went with a White crankset and 
> bottom bracket (BSA) and I’m using a Deore M5100 RD and matching 11-51 
> cassette. I originally installed a 32t ring up front, but last week I 
> swapped it for a 34t to give me a little more on the high end.
>
> On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:12 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Richard, I'm stoked for you! Congrats on your new-to-you Gus!
>
> Keep in touch, so we can compare notes on OUR upcoming Gus builds. I've 
> got some ideas as to drivetrain options and haven't made a decision yet 
> myself. Hoping to hear yours and other member's thoughts about a recipe for 
> a yummy Gus drivetrain. 
>
> Did you score a complete bike or f/f?
>
> Merry, early, Christmas...
>
> Scott
>
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 09:17:31 AM MST, Richard Rose <
> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really 
> craving a Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold 
> color. Alas, none to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I 
> found a Gus in my size and I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I 
> am selling stuff all over the place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun 
> as heck fatbike is gone and my full suspension bike will be gone soon as 
> well. Never a dull moment and then - the frames appear on the Crust site. 
> What the actual hell?! But its all good, no going back. Excited to get this 
> Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a lot of questions drivetrain 
> related. And brakes. As someone else said, Christmas came early for me. 
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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread Richard Rose

Frame/ Fork only. So interesting that a lot of folks are running 1x. My dream build might be to install the ee wing crank I already own (170 crank arms) in a 1x setup. I also own (ugly?) Sram GX 12 speed shifter. I was thinking a 9 or 10 cassette? The crank is currently attached to a 30t Absolute Black elliptical ring, which I realize is controversial. But I have enjoyed it. It does not feel weird but I do feel strong on climbs with it. This crank was on my full suspension bike (selling) with a 10-50 SRAM cassette. That 30-50 low worked well for me. I don’t even know if you can get a 50 on other than 12 speed cassettes? Can I use the GX rear derailleur with a cluster that has less than 12 cogs? Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 10, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Brian Turner wrote:On my Gus, I’m running a 1x drivetrain. I went with a White crankset and bottom bracket (BSA) and I’m using a Deore M5100 RD and matching 11-51 cassette. I originally installed a 32t ring up front, but last week I swapped it for a 34t to give me a little more on the high end.On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:12 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Richard, I'm stoked for you! Congrats on your new-to-you Gus!Keep in touch, so we can compare notes on OUR upcoming Gus builds. I've got some ideas as to drivetrain options and haven't made a decision yet myself. Hoping to hear yours and other member's thoughts about a recipe for a yummy Gus drivetrain. Did you score a complete bike or f/f?Merry, early, Christmas...Scott

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 09:17:31 AM MST, Richard Rose wrote:

Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really craving a Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold color. Alas, none to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I found a Gus in my size and I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I am selling stuff all over the place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun as heck fatbike is gone and my full suspension bike will be gone soon as well. Never a dull moment and then - the frames appear on the Crust site. What the actual hell?! But its all good, no going back. Excited to get this Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a lot of questions drivetrain related. And brakes. As someone else said, Christmas came early for me.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch

Brian, right on. Your reply answers what I was wondering. If you had more than
enough stump-pull with 32 x 51, I'm hoping I get enough out of a 32 or 30 ring
x 40 cog

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:19 PM, Brian Turner wrote:
Scott, I’m running 1x11. It’s a real stump-puller. I was finding that I was
pretty much running it on the smallest 2 cogs when just cruising around town,
and I was wanting a bit more so that’s why I swapped the chainring. I don’t
think I sacrificed too much on the low end in doing so, but I’ve yet to take it
out on a trail since the swap.

On Dec 10, 2022, at 2:08 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
wrote:

Brian, how many speed cassette? I'm leaning 1x already. 11-51 is wide ratio,
must be a 10 or 11?I have a 31-40 8 spd I want to try

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Brian Turner wrote:
On my Gus, I’m running a 1x drivetrain. I went with a White crankset and bottom
bracket (BSA) and I’m using a Deore M5100 RD and matching 11-51 cassette. I
originally installed a 32t ring up front, but last week I swapped it for a 34t
to give me a little more on the high end.

On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:12 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
wrote:

Richard, I'm stoked for you! Congrats on your new-to-you Gus!
Keep in touch, so we can compare notes on OUR upcoming Gus builds. I've got
some ideas as to drivetrain options and haven't made a decision yet myself.
Hoping to hear yours and other member's thoughts about a recipe for a yummy Gus
drivetrain.

Did you score a complete bike or f/f?
Merry, early, Christmas...
Scott

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 09:17:31 AM MST, Richard Rose
wrote:

Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really craving a
Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold color. Alas, none
to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I found a Gus in my size and
I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I am selling stuff all over the
place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun as heck fatbike is gone and my
full suspension bike will be gone soon as well. Never a dull moment and then -
the frames appear on the Crust site. What the actual hell?! But its all good,
no going back. Excited to get this Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a
lot of questions drivetrain related. And brakes. As someone else said,
Christmas came early for me.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread Brian Turner

Scott, I’m running 1x11. It’s a real stump-puller. I was finding that I was pretty much running it on the smallest 2 cogs when just cruising around town, and I was wanting a bit more so that’s why I swapped the chainring. I don’t think I sacrificed too much on the low end in doing so, but I’ve yet to take it out on a trail since the swap.On Dec 10, 2022, at 2:08 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Brian, how many speed cassette? I'm leaning 1x already. 11-51 is wide ratio, must be a 10 or 11?I have a 31-40 8 spd I want to trySent from Yahoo Mail on AndroidOn Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Brian Turner wrote: On my Gus, I’m running a 1x drivetrain. I went with a White crankset and bottom bracket (BSA) and I’m using a Deore M5100 RD and matching 11-51 cassette. I originally installed a 32t ring up front, but last week I swapped it for a 34t to give me a little more on the high end.On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:12 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Richard, I'm stoked for you! Congrats on your new-to-you Gus!Keep in touch, so we can compare notes on OUR upcoming Gus builds. I've got some ideas as to drivetrain options and haven't made a decision yet myself. Hoping to hear yours and other member's thoughts about a recipe for a yummy Gus drivetrain. Did you score a complete bike or f/f?Merry, early, Christmas...Scott

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch

Correction: I have an 11-40 I want to try

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Bunch wrote: Brian, how many speed
cassette? I'm leaning 1x already. 11-51 is wide ratio, must be a 10 or 11?I
have a 31-40 8 spd I want to try

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wrote:

Did you score a complete bike or f/f?
Merry, early, Christmas...
Scott

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 09:17:31 AM MST, Richard Rose
wrote:

Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really craving a
Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold color. Alas, none
to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I found a Gus in my size and
I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I am selling stuff all over the
place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun as heck fatbike is gone and my
full suspension bike will be gone soon as well. Never a dull moment and then -
the frames appear on the Crust site. What the actual hell?! But its all good,
no going back. Excited to get this Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a
lot of questions drivetrain related. And brakes. As someone else said,
Christmas came early for me.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch

Brian, how many speed cassette? I'm leaning 1x already. 11-51 is wide ratio,
must be a 10 or 11?I have a 31-40 8 spd I want to try

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On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:12 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
wrote:

Did you score a complete bike or f/f?
Merry, early, Christmas...
Scott

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 09:17:31 AM MST, Richard Rose
wrote:

Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really craving a
Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold color. Alas, none
to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I found a Gus in my size and
I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I am selling stuff all over the
place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun as heck fatbike is gone and my
full suspension bike will be gone soon as well. Never a dull moment and then -
the frames appear on the Crust site. What the actual hell?! But its all good,
no going back. Excited to get this Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a
lot of questions drivetrain related. And brakes. As someone else said,
Christmas came early for me.

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread Brian Turner

On my Gus, I’m running a 1x drivetrain. I went with a White crankset and bottom bracket (BSA) and I’m using a Deore M5100 RD and matching 11-51 cassette. I originally installed a 32t ring up front, but last week I swapped it for a 34t to give me a little more on the high end.On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:12 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Richard, I'm stoked for you! Congrats on your new-to-you Gus!Keep in touch, so we can compare notes on OUR upcoming Gus builds. I've got some ideas as to drivetrain options and haven't made a decision yet myself. Hoping to hear yours and other member's thoughts about a recipe for a yummy Gus drivetrain. Did you score a complete bike or f/f?Merry, early, Christmas...Scott

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Re: [RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch

Did you score a complete bike or f/f?
Merry, early, Christmas...
Scott

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 09:17:31 AM MST, Richard Rose
wrote:

Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really craving a
Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold color. Alas, none
to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I found a Gus in my size and
I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I am selling stuff all over the
place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun as heck fatbike is gone and my
full suspension bike will be gone soon as well. Never a dull moment and then -
the frames appear on the Crust site. What the actual hell?! But its all good,
no going back. Excited to get this Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a
lot of questions drivetrain related. And brakes. As someone else said,
Christmas came early for me.

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[RBW] New Gus!

2022-12-10 Thread Richard Rose

Wow, what a few days. I love my Clem so much that I have been really 
craving a Susie as a dedicated singletrack bike. I just love the gold 
color. Alas, none to be found anywhere and none on the horizon. But, I 
found a Gus in my size and I quite like the mermaid so I bought it. Now I 
am selling stuff all over the place to justify it. My seldom ridden but fun 
as heck fatbike is gone and my full suspension bike will be gone soon as 
well. Never a dull moment and then - the frames appear on the Crust site. 
What the actual hell?! But its all good, no going back. Excited to get this 
Gus on the trail this spring. I may have a lot of questions drivetrain 
related. And brakes. As someone else said, Christmas came early for me.

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