Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Jack B]

Thanks for all the replies. I tried out some noodles at the LBS and
realized that they sweep backward slightly, which is probably what I liked
about the rando bars. Another list member is selling me a used noodle and
ill give it a whirl.

On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Paul G  wrote:

> This is true. From the stem clamp to the beginning of the curve to the
> ramps, the Noodle bars actually slope downward slightly (like a Moustach
> bar, but not nearly as much) which results in the ramps being slightly
> lower for any given stem height. The amount is slight, but noticeable and I
> like how if feels when riding on the tops. It makes for a nice wrist angle
> there.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 5:11:17 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Rather than upsweep, Noodles drop on the outside giving them a very
>> natural position for brake interruptor levers (cross brakes)
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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Paul G]

This is true. From the stem clamp to the beginning of the curve to the 
ramps, the Noodle bars actually slope downward slightly (like a Moustach 
bar, but not nearly as much) which results in the ramps being slightly 
lower for any given stem height. The amount is slight, but noticeable and I 
like how if feels when riding on the tops. It makes for a nice wrist angle 
there.


On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 5:11:17 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Rather than upsweep, Noodles drop on the outside giving them a very 
> natural position for brake interruptor levers (cross brakes)
>

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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Ron Mc]

Rather than upsweep, Noodles drop on the outside


giving them a very natural position for brake interruptor levers (cross 
brakes)

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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Joe Bernard]

Sorry, Jack, those Noodles left on a Bridgestone RB-1 many years ago. I don't 
ride far/hard enough to make road bikes with drops work for me. I'm not really 
a cyclist, I'm more of a "ride arounder" ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Jack B]

Okay Joe, then do you have a 46 Noodle you'd like to sell me? ;-)

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> You're right on about the B135 and narrowness. Years ago I switched to
> them from 46 Noodles thinking they would be similar in width at the brake
> hoods, but they felt MUCH narrower. I think Noodles are hard to beat for
> comfort in a drop bar (disclaimer: I don't use drops at all anymore).
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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Joe Bernard]

You're right on about the B135 and narrowness. Years ago I switched to them 
from 46 Noodles thinking they would be similar in width at the brake hoods, but 
they felt MUCH narrower. I think Noodles are hard to beat for comfort in a drop 
bar (disclaimer: I don't use drops at all anymore).

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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Jack B]

Yeah the B135 sounds like it would be a good fit, except for the
limited width. 45cm in itself is almost wide enough, but that's measured c
to c at the bar ends, right? That style of bar is going to be much narrower
at the flats, I'd think.

Sounds like I had my terminology wrong earlier when I was talking about the
ramps. I meant the drops.  Right now I've tilted the Mark's bar up slightly
(cheating, like Patrick says). This makes the drops really steep, like
35deg or more. Kinda funky.

Thanks for all the replies.

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> + 1 for the B 135 -- shortish reach and very comfortable upsweep. The
> Noodle sweeps back but not up; reach (I take it that Riv means effective
> reach) is 95 mm. So if you can stomach 1 more cm of reach, the B 135 may
> well be your boy. I see that Ben's Cycles has a 45 cm width model.
>
> So, yes, the Noodle has a shorter reach but a deeper drop.
>
> Me, I prefer the shallower 120 mm drop to the Noodle's (not *Noodles'!*)
> 140 mm -- IIRC, the Mark's is very like the Nitto 185 which has 135 mm drop.
>
> BTW, you can indeed adjust the tilt of a bar to make your ramps longer or
> to bring the brake levers up and closer, but IMO that is cheating; choose a
> bar that fits and lets you get the levers where you like them.
>
> And, for another lister's question: per conventional terminology, flat or
> top: section of a drop bar from clamp to forward bend. Ramp: flat part from
> bend to hood -- some bars don't have much of a ramp, like the Mark's. Hook
> or "drop": inside portion of forward curve from hood to ends of bar.
>
> Patrick Moore, riding one bicycle handlebar (tm, singular) at a time in
> ABQ, NM
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jack Barnes  > wrote:
>
>> I've been riding on VO's Rando
>> 
>> bars, but have decided that they have too much forward reach. Switched over
>> to a Mark's Bar that I have in the parts bin, and I'm finding that I like
>> the reduced reach but miss the upswept flats. Would the Noodle give me some
>> of this effect? Hard to tell from the pics.
>>
>> I don't need it to be as swoopy as the rando bars. Nitto's rando bar
>> looks like a decent option, but too narrow — I'm looking for a 46 or 48cm
>> width.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Jack
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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Patrick Moore]

+ 1 for the B 135 -- shortish reach and very comfortable upsweep. The
Noodle sweeps back but not up; reach (I take it that Riv means effective
reach) is 95 mm. So if you can stomach 1 more cm of reach, the B 135 may
well be your boy. I see that Ben's Cycles has a 45 cm width model.

So, yes, the Noodle has a shorter reach but a deeper drop.

Me, I prefer the shallower 120 mm drop to the Noodle's (not *Noodles'!*)
140 mm -- IIRC, the Mark's is very like the Nitto 185 which has 135 mm drop.

BTW, you can indeed adjust the tilt of a bar to make your ramps longer or
to bring the brake levers up and closer, but IMO that is cheating; choose a
bar that fits and lets you get the levers where you like them.

And, for another lister's question: per conventional terminology, flat or
top: section of a drop bar from clamp to forward bend. Ramp: flat part from
bend to hood -- some bars don't have much of a ramp, like the Mark's. Hook
or "drop": inside portion of forward curve from hood to ends of bar.

Patrick Moore, riding one bicycle handlebar (tm, singular) at a time in
ABQ, NM

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jack Barnes  wrote:

> I've been riding on VO's Rando
> 
> bars, but have decided that they have too much forward reach. Switched over
> to a Mark's Bar that I have in the parts bin, and I'm finding that I like
> the reduced reach but miss the upswept flats. Would the Noodle give me some
> of this effect? Hard to tell from the pics.
>
> I don't need it to be as swoopy as the rando bars. Nitto's rando bar looks
> like a decent option, but too narrow — I'm looking for a 46 or 48cm width.
>
> thanks,
> Jack
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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Lungimsam]

By "on the flats", are you meaning "tops", "ramps", or "drops"?

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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Tim Gavin]

Nitto B135 Randonneur bars have shorter reach (105 mm) than the B132 and/or
Grand Cru Randonneur bars (120 mm).

Not as short-reach as the Mark's bar, but the B135 does have nice upswept
flats and a nice amount of flare through the drops.  I use the B135 on two
bikes.

Tim

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> You can angle your bars so the ramps are flat, then rotate your brake
> levers up the ramps to get them closer reach.
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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Lungimsam]

You can angle your bars so the ramps are flat, then rotate your brake levers up 
the ramps to get them closer reach.

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Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Jack B]

Bummer. Well thanks for the info Keith.

I just now made an adjustment that might help: I tilted the Mark's bar up
so that the flats (behind the hoods) are a better resting spot. Rode around
the block and they feel good.

The ramps are steep now, maybe too steep, but I don't ride there much.
Kinda new to drop bars so still trying to get it dialed in.

On Monday, June 13, 2016, Keith Muller  wrote:

> Jack,
>
> Noodle are flat accross the top
>
> Keith
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[RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Keith Muller]

Jack,

Noodle are flat accross the top 

Keith

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[RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Jack Barnes]

I've been riding on VO's Rando 
 
bars, but have decided that they have too much forward reach. Switched over 
to a Mark's Bar that I have in the parts bin, and I'm finding that I like 
the reduced reach but miss the upswept flats. Would the Noodle give me some 
of this effect? Hard to tell from the pics. 

I don't need it to be as swoopy as the rando bars. Nitto's rando bar looks 
like a decent option, but too narrow — I'm looking for a 46 or 48cm width.

thanks,
Jack

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