Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Thanks again for the replies. After much soul searching, anxiety, and general fretting I have decided to stay with Kojaks, because, if they are not entirely excellent as fast tires, they do fall into the category technically known as *pretty darn good*. If 28 mm wide was sufficient, I'd probably buy some Michelin WildRunr tires, but, beside the sickening name, 28 mm is just too narrow (never thought I'd say that) for this particular bike (which carries heavy rear loads and pounds over 3-6 wide pavement cracks (which are due, so I read, from the asphalt shifting in our sandy soil, not to our high desert temperature extremes). Patrick Moore, who just had a pretty darn good ride on the Kojaks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
I meant to add that, from the reports, of all the Kojak alternatives, only the Michelin seems truly promising as a tire faster than the Kojaks and, again, they are too narrow. On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again for the replies. After much soul searching, anxiety, and general fretting I have decided to stay with Kojaks, because, if they are not entirely excellent as fast tires, they do fall into the category technically known as *pretty darn good*. If 28 mm wide was sufficient, I'd probably buy some Michelin WildRunr tires, but, beside the sickening name, 28 mm is just too narrow (never thought I'd say that) for this particular bike (which carries heavy rear loads and pounds over 3-6 wide pavement cracks (which are due, so I read, from the asphalt shifting in our sandy soil, not to our high desert temperature extremes). Patrick Moore, who just had a pretty darn good ride on the Kojaks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Thanks, Pete. I am going to investigate the Somas in more detail. I'm glad people are still making the occasional decent, narrower, 559 road tire. Patrick Moore iPhone On May 21, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Pete Olson apolso...@gmail.com wrote: I put the 26x1.25 New Express Tires on my wife's small frame Rambouillet last season. They are listed as 330 grams on the Soma paper strip that held them together. They measure about 28.5mm wide on the stock, road oriented rims, which is just about the same as the previous 1.25 Paselas. No flats so far. -Pete On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:25:44 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Many thanks, Chris, I'd not heard of these. If it is obviously better than the Pasela, then it's certainly worth investigating. I'll check them out. OS125 cbar...@ase.tufts.edu said: I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine. The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found wanting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Patrick, I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine. The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found wanting. Chris near Boston On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:56:57 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I wish the '03 would fit the Compass tires with fenders, but it won't -- ~32 mm is the maximum with adequate gap. I find that if I run the Kojaks a wee bit higher than I'd like to (~60/65 versus 55/60) they roll well enough. I am presently doubting whether the Primo Racers would add enough to earn the cost and hassle of replacement. Note: all pavement, and generally pretty decent pavement; no dirt. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires. They are smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * “Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place. Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be? Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” ― Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Many thanks, Chris, I'd not heard of these. If it is obviously better than the Pasela, then it's certainly worth investigating. I'll check them out. OS125 cbarb...@ase.tufts.edu said: I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine. The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found wanting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
I put the 26x1.25 New Express Tires on my wife's small frame Rambouillet last season. They are listed as 330 grams on the Soma paper strip that held them together. They measure about 28.5mm wide on the stock, road oriented rims, which is just about the same as the previous 1.25 Paselas. No flats so far. -Pete On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:25:44 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Many thanks, Chris, I'd not heard of these. If it is obviously better than the Pasela, then it's certainly worth investigating. I'll check them out. OS125 cbar...@ase.tufts.edu javascript: said: I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine. The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found wanting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Too wide and tall, alas. 32s do well with fenders but there's not much more room left over. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried to cram in Compass 1.5s yet? I assume they're equally fantastic to their 650b counterparts. At 37mm, too big but maybe with some fender manipulation? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Let me amend that: I can't find any website that clearly states the specs for the non-TG Pasela. I find a lot of ebay and amazon but no specs. Also, many of the sites refer to 622 or 630 sizes. Any further help greatly appreciated. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Thanks, Joe. As of this moment, the Kojaks are the standard to beat. There are 559X28 (1 1/8) tires available that might be better running, but that extra 4 mm is worth a bit of flat-resistant drag. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires. They are smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires. In the past week put about 150 miltes total on the Kojak tires and by the end of the week, I was feeling the miles in my legs. In fact, am now considering buying the Compass 26 tires for this bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Joe. As of this moment, the Kojaks are the standard to beat. There are 559X28 (1 1/8) tires available that might be better running, but that extra 4 mm is worth a bit of flat-resistant drag. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
I wish the '03 would fit the Compass tires with fenders, but it won't -- ~32 mm is the maximum with adequate gap. I find that if I run the Kojaks a wee bit higher than I'd like to (~60/65 versus 55/60) they roll well enough. I am presently doubting whether the Primo Racers would add enough to earn the cost and hassle of replacement. Note: all pavement, and generally pretty decent pavement; no dirt. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires. They are smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * “Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place. Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be? Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” ― Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Have you tried to cram in Compass 1.5s yet? I assume they're equally fantastic to their 650b counterparts. At 37mm, too big but maybe with some fender manipulation? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
