[RBW] Perplexities regarding flat tires

2019-01-06 Thread in Dallas nick



Learning to change out an inner tube after flatting is definitely a high value 
skill to learn for any cyclist I think.




That's probably one of the main things that would be included in a basic bike 
maintenance class.




A bit of practice after learning the basics should serve you well.




There was a first time for all of us in learning how change out a flatted tube 
and a learning curve to get proficient at it.




At the beginning I would get frustrated trying to remove and replace the rear 
wheel in the frame until someone showed me an easier way.




I also ruined a number of new tubes by rushing and not taking the time to make 
sure the tube was completely inside the tire and a part of it not being pinched 
between the rim and tire bead.




The sudden and very loud pop as well as $5 to $10 down the drain via a ruined 
tube will teach one to check thoroughly.




If you're boys continue in cycling this would be a good skill for them to learn 
as well.


Perhaps learn as a family?


Treat it like a puzzle.


What caused this blasted flat? 


Let's figure it out together.




A few mystery flats of mine turned out to be issues in the base of valve area 
that had been separated a bit.


 It would hold air for a time but with slight movement of the stem begin 
leaking.




I've also had the cursed tiny wires the semi truck cast off when their 
retreaded tires come apart and litter the roadways.


 Even tires with flat protection built into the tread are not immune from those 
tiny devils especially when touring.




The last few years most of my flats were caused by seam separation of the tube


an obvious manufacturing defect.


I've had a least 3 and a friend had one last week from seam separation.




I guess we got a defective batch of tubes.




Sometimes I resort to putting the tubes in  bathtub water to isolate the leak.




I've found it also helps when first installing a tube to always orient the tire 
the same way on the rim every time.




Then after removing a flatted tube and determining the leak location you can 
know where to check the tire for the source of the puncture if it was a 
puncture.




Of course check both the outside and inside of the tire.




Goodness, this got long.




I hope a bit of it helps.




Paul in Dallas











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Re: [RBW] Perplexities regarding flat tires

2019-01-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Leah: If your tire flatted, it had a puncture, either from an exterior
penetrant, or from an interior penetrant, or because of some defect in or
damage to the tube itself. Exterior is obvious; interior: several times I
had tires that kept flatting despite very conscientious search for
penetrant. In one retrospectively hilarious incident: I kept my beloved
racing bike propped up in my bedroom 2' from my bed. 3 am. BAM! Panic! In
all cases, this too, the culprit was slipping rim tape that let the highly
pressurized tube force its way into the spoke hole, where it was punctured
by the sharp inward end of a spoke.

Other culprits, and one I've had problems with with Schwalbe tubes: seal
between valve and tube proper is bad and a split or small tear lets air
escape.

Both of these can be pressure-related; a tube might hold air until a
threshold is reached and then, leakage.

If you want to be proof, as far as such security can be had, against just
about any flat, use what local shops here use: a belted tire (which can be
horrible to ride -- like cold molasses), a tire liner, a Schraeder valve
thorn proof tube (these weigh as much as tires), and a sealant. Nothing is
guaranteed in this lower world of becoming and change, but insofar as
anything can be guaranteed, this "system" will keep you flat free. I've
ridden through 1-2 miles of goathead plants and come out the other end with
no air loss, even several days later (no slow leaks), and IME, Schraeder
valves have fewer problems with the valve stem/rubber interface.

Or else, do what I used to do: choose your tires carefully, and buy your
patches yearly in batches of 200, and I am not kidding.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 2:20 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My mechanical knowlege of bikes is embarrassingly scant. I love my bike. I
> ride it a lot. But I take it to the shop for all its maintenance. I really
> should do better, and if I hear of a local place teaching bike maintenance
> classes, I will try to enroll. But meanwhile, indulge me?
>
> I decided to take my boys for a ride a couple of days ago, and was shocked
> to find the 24 inch Specialized Hotrock had a front flat. Like, completely
> flat. I could see no obvious trauma, so I decided to fill the tire with our
> air compressor and see if it would hold air. It did. I decided it would be
> safe to ride if we went slow down the hill, and it was all well and good. I
> just checked it again today, 2 days later, and the tire remains well
> inflated.
>
> However, it bothers me that I don’t know why that tire went flat. And what
> if it does it again WHEN HE’S RIDING IT? What happens to you if your front
> tire suddenly blows? I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be extremely dangerous.
> The tires were replaced in 2017, if that matters.
>
> So, what could cause a tire with no puncture to flat? And would you
> replace the tube just to be on the safe side? Am I overreacting?
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Perplexities regarding flat tires

2019-01-04 Thread Kainalu V.
Assuming presta valves, it may be that the valve didn't get tightened and that 
it "bounced" itself open and slowly leaked it gone. If shraeder, could be the 
VVV (Vegas Valve Vortex), or the heat could've melted the tube better while it 
was flattened. And new tubes are always nice, put a couple ounces of sealant in 
and you'll certainly be good for a few months...
-Kai
BKNY (formerly of Henderson)

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[RBW] Perplexities regarding flat tires

2019-01-04 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
My mechanical knowlege of bikes is embarrassingly scant. I love my bike. I ride 
it a lot. But I take it to the shop for all its maintenance. I really should do 
better, and if I hear of a local place teaching bike maintenance classes, I 
will try to enroll. But meanwhile, indulge me?

I decided to take my boys for a ride a couple of days ago, and was shocked to 
find the 24 inch Specialized Hotrock had a front flat. Like, completely flat. I 
could see no obvious trauma, so I decided to fill the tire with our air 
compressor and see if it would hold air. It did. I decided it would be safe to 
ride if we went slow down the hill, and it was all well and good. I just 
checked it again today, 2 days later, and the tire remains well inflated. 

However, it bothers me that I don’t know why that tire went flat. And what if 
it does it again WHEN HE’S RIDING IT? What happens to you if your front tire 
suddenly blows? I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be extremely dangerous. The tires 
were replaced in 2017, if that matters.

So, what could cause a tire with no puncture to flat? And would you replace the 
tube just to be on the safe side? Am I overreacting? 
Thanks!
Leah

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