[RBW] Putting My Foot Down
I often stop in the saddle using my foot as a prop, it's extended but not on point. My saddle is 12-13cm below my pbh, which feels right to me. Some advice that may or may not be advisable- 1. Have huge pedal pushers, my size 16 foot makes a good kickstand. 2. Use a longer crank. That'll get your optimized pedal stroke that much closer to the ground. 3. Lean, slightly 4, Forget the whole prop thing, it's a crutch, master track stands. -Kai BKNY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down
Here's a non-Rivendellian solution: a dropper seatpost. They're popular with MTB types in order to lower the seat while aggressively riding (in the standing position) and quickly raise it back once you want to sit down. You could lower the seat before you stop, and raise it again when you start going. However, they aren't cheap. They're kind of a pain to set up (routing the control cable). And the smallest size is 27.2 (26.8 and you're out of luck). I put a KS Lev dropper on my new MTB build (steel frame All-City Electric Queen, modern components) and I'm still getting the hang of when to use it (and why). But I agree wholeheartedly with Grant et al that proper (read, high) saddle height is very important. I've tried to sit and ride after dropping the saddle an inch or so, and pedaling just feels so wrong. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:21 PM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA < martinpgie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" > position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not > have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have > an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly > bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my > foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when > I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the > expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or > unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some > racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me > and embrace the low-down. > > So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your > foot down? > > Marty > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down
Will stopping, dismounting and standing with one foot on the ground, sort of half-sitting on the top tube with the other leg, cramp you up? I see people do it, but in my experience keeping your butt on the saddle while poking a leg out as a prop is a recipe for disaster. On 12/11/18 5:19 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: I can't see any other way to achieve "correct" leg extension while still retaining the ability to put both feet flat on the floor - Not talking both feet flat, just one that I can rest on the ground without cramping up - which happens to me more often these days. I'll play with the saddle height and see what works. I see people doing it all the time, and maybe they are inefficient, but they do look comfortable. -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > I can't see any other way to achieve "correct" leg extension while still > retaining the ability to put both feet flat on the floor - > Not talking both feet flat, just one that I can rest on the ground without cramping up - which happens to me more often these days. I'll play with the saddle height and see what works. I see people doing it all the time, and maybe they are inefficient, but they do look comfortable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down
I can't see any other way to achieve "correct" leg extension while still retaining the ability to put both feet flat on the floor - that is, after all, the whole point of "crank forward". Personally, it's not for me and I don't have the requirement: if I need to put both feet flat on the ground -- indeed, even just one foot on the ground -- I am going to stop and dismount. However, I'm aware there are people for whom it is a requirement and the crank-forward design lets them do that. On 12/11/18 4:45 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Ha! That would answer the issue, wouldn’t it, Steve. Grin. On a Rivendell or other standard frame, the seat would need to be quite low to accomplish what you’re talking about, Marty. Likely prohibitively low. With abandon, Patrick -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down
Ha! That would answer the issue, wouldn’t it, Steve. Grin. On a Rivendell or other standard frame, the seat would need to be quite low to accomplish what you’re talking about, Marty. Likely prohibitively low. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down
Sounds like you want a "crank forward" semi-recumbent design Image result for crank-forward bikes On 12/11/18 4:21 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me and embrace the low-down. So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your foot down? Marty -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Putting My Foot Down
Hey Marty, The last photo in this post shows, a bit obliquely, leg bend at 6 o’clock. https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/six-inches-of-fresh-powder-and-a-brisk-day I’ve ending up lowering by saddle a skosh since going fixed gear ... makes riding mongolian style easier, given the pedals are always moving. I often stand at a light, from the saddle, with my foot down, but on the ball of my foot. I’d need to lean to put my foot flat. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Putting My Foot Down
Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me and embrace the low-down. So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your foot down? Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
