[RBW] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available
There isn't a technical reason... but the issue of how many tires we can produce and stock. We figured that somebody who absolutely needs black tires can upgrade from Standard to Extralight casings, whereas downgrading from Extralight to Standard just because you want black would be giving up significant performance. That said, I think tan sidewalls look great on many modern bikes, as they emphasize the wheels, which are the most important parts of the bike, after all. Modern all-black bikes tend to look like amorphous blobs to me, with little to catch my attention. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles www.compasscycle.com On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 7:51:49 PM UTC+2, Chris L wrote: Is there a technical reason for this? Some of us much prefer the look of an all black tire over one with a tan sidewall, especially those of us running MTB's. On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: The Rat Trap Pass 26 x 2.3 measures about 53-54 mm wide on most rims. It's pretty much the largest tire you can fit on a custom bike with road cranks (and thus a narrow tread/Q factor). As to the black sidewalls, they are available only with the Extralight casing. The Standard casing is available only with tan sidewalls. The Extralight comes both in tan and black. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available
Tan sidewalls also have a functional benefit of being more conducive to visual verification of tire pressure. In other words, it's easier to do a quick check of tire pressure while riding by glancing down. That's in addition to tan sidewalls being able to show the marks of hard men, aka stained sidewalls from rim brake effluent when riding in the rain, of course... On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:17:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: There isn't a technical reason... but the issue of how many tires we can produce and stock. We figured that somebody who absolutely needs black tires can upgrade from Standard to Extralight casings, whereas downgrading from Extralight to Standard just because you want black would be giving up significant performance. That said, I think tan sidewalls look great on many modern bikes, as they emphasize the wheels, which are the most important parts of the bike, after all. Modern all-black bikes tend to look like amorphous blobs to me, with little to catch my attention. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles www.compasscycle.com On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 7:51:49 PM UTC+2, Chris L wrote: Is there a technical reason for this? Some of us much prefer the look of an all black tire over one with a tan sidewall, especially those of us running MTB's. On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: The Rat Trap Pass 26 x 2.3 measures about 53-54 mm wide on most rims. It's pretty much the largest tire you can fit on a custom bike with road cranks (and thus a narrow tread/Q factor). As to the black sidewalls, they are available only with the Extralight casing. The Standard casing is available only with tan sidewalls. The Extralight comes both in tan and black. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available
I'm still experimenting with the 27.XX Elk Pass, but so far, about 55 psi. Kojaks: about the same. Furious Freds, ~18/22 -- 17/20. 60 mm Big Apples: 15/18. I can pretty quickly tell if the pressure is significantly lower by the feel on the straights -- they start bouncing if the pressure drops. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA benzouy...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know what kind of pressure you ride at, but I run my fat tires at a pretty low pressure for comfort. The roads around the SF bay area aren't getting any better and I found that Frank Berto's recommendation plus a smidgeon works well. At those pressures, it's not easy to tell when one has a slow leak with the resulting pressure drop *during* a ride. In fact, I had a spill once when my front lost pressure slowly during a ride. The pressure drop was not noticeable and I only found out when I tried to corner semi-aggressively and the tire folded over. Nowadays, I just do a quick glance down before I do something foolish. On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 12:55:18 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Huh. My own first source of tire pressure information, beside using a gauge, is the way they feel on the road. I can't say that black sidewalls ever gave me more information about tire pressure than tan ones. That said, I personally like the looks of black sidewalls better. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Benz benzo...@gmail.com wrote: Tan sidewalls also have a functional benefit of being more conducive to visual verification of tire pressure. In other words, it's easier to do a quick check of tire pressure while riding by glancing down. That's in addition to tan sidewalls being able to show the marks of hard men, aka stained sidewalls from rim brake effluent when riding in the rain, of course... On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:17:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: There isn't a technical reason... but the issue of how many tires we can produce and stock. We figured that somebody who absolutely needs black tires can upgrade from Standard to Extralight casings, whereas downgrading from Extralight to Standard just because you want black would be giving up significant performance. That said, I think tan sidewalls look great on many modern bikes, as they emphasize the wheels, which are the most important parts of the bike, after all. Modern all-black bikes tend to look like amorphous blobs to me, with little to catch my attention. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles www.compasscycle.com On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 7:51:49 PM UTC+2, Chris L wrote: Is there a technical reason for this? Some of us much prefer the look of an all black tire over one with a tan sidewall, especially those of us running MTB's. On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: The Rat Trap Pass 26 x 2.3 measures about 53-54 mm wide on most rims. It's pretty much the largest tire you can fit on a custom bike with road cranks (and thus a narrow tread/Q factor). As to the black sidewalls, they are available only with the Extralight casing. The Standard casing is available only with tan sidewalls. The Extralight comes both in tan and black. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
[RBW] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available
I don't know what kind of pressure you ride at, but I run my fat tires at a pretty low pressure for comfort. The roads around the SF bay area aren't getting any better and I found that Frank Berto's recommendation plus a smidgeon works well. At those pressures, it's not easy to tell when one has a slow leak with the resulting pressure drop *during* a ride. In fact, I had a spill once when my front lost pressure slowly during a ride. The pressure drop was not noticeable and I only found out when I tried to corner semi-aggressively and the tire folded over. Nowadays, I just do a quick glance down before I do something foolish. On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 12:55:18 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Huh. My own first source of tire pressure information, beside using a gauge, is the way they feel on the road. I can't say that black sidewalls ever gave me more information about tire pressure than tan ones. That said, I personally like the looks of black sidewalls better. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Benz benzo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Tan sidewalls also have a functional benefit of being more conducive to visual verification of tire pressure. In other words, it's easier to do a quick check of tire pressure while riding by glancing down. That's in addition to tan sidewalls being able to show the marks of hard men, aka stained sidewalls from rim brake effluent when riding in the rain, of course... On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:17:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: There isn't a technical reason... but the issue of how many tires we can produce and stock. We figured that somebody who absolutely needs black tires can upgrade from Standard to Extralight casings, whereas downgrading from Extralight to Standard just because you want black would be giving up significant performance. That said, I think tan sidewalls look great on many modern bikes, as they emphasize the wheels, which are the most important parts of the bike, after all. Modern all-black bikes tend to look like amorphous blobs to me, with little to catch my attention. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles www.compasscycle.com On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 7:51:49 PM UTC+2, Chris L wrote: Is there a technical reason for this? Some of us much prefer the look of an all black tire over one with a tan sidewall, especially those of us running MTB's. On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: The Rat Trap Pass 26 x 2.3 measures about 53-54 mm wide on most rims. It's pretty much the largest tire you can fit on a custom bike with road cranks (and thus a narrow tread/Q factor). As to the black sidewalls, they are available only with the Extralight casing. The Standard casing is available only with tan sidewalls. The Extralight comes both in tan and black. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available
So 2.125 x 26. http://www.metric-conversions.org/length/millimeters-to-inches.htm Sounds good for my rigid mtb's converted to urban crusisers. Paul in Dallas. - Original Message - From: Jeff Lesperance To: Philip Kim Cc: RBW Owners Bunch ; internet-...@googlegroups.com ; Patrick Moore Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:19 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available The copy on the page where these are for sale (https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/26-inch/compass-26-x-2-3-rat-trap-pass/) contains the conflicting measurement info: Compass 26″ x 2.3″ Rat Trap Pass ... The Rat Trap Pass (26″ x 54mm) I also recall that actual measured width was reported to be closer to 50mm. I ordered up a pair to see if they'll fit on my Handsome XOXO, which has handled 2.1 semi-knobbies with a bit of wiggle room. If they don't fit my 10-year old is going to have the fanciest tires in the 'hood -Jeff Silver Spring, MD On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Philip Kim philipw...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a typo? Because I thought it was supposed to be 54-55mm, which means 2.1ish. Also, I remember reading these actually measured out to be 50mm on their prototype. I wonder if they resolved that, but I don't know anything about the tire molding process and how easy/difficult it is to change specs. On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 10:49:26 AM UTC-4, Ginz wrote: I'm a bit surprised at the 2.3 width. There are a lot of touring bikes that can fit a 1.75 or 2.0...but 2.3 is really out there. In the 559 wheel size, we're talking mountain bike. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, group rules and how to contact the moderation team, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/internet-bob?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/12ea1c3a-19a6-4b7f-867b-e5e2a1081342%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, group rules and how to contact the moderation team, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/internet-bob?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/CALvoVJaP55d7Vy8onRJcVx3VSQj-0nwS8Se-20EhtvzooHy6sg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
