[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-24 Thread Paul Y
Thanks Jim. Those look nice, amazing they could fit on a Cross-Check ! 

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:21:43 AM UTC+7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 I had some Kenda Karma 29x1.9 on my Cross-Check. Good, light, not too 
 expensive.

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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-24 Thread Z
Schwalbe's Smart Sam seems to work for somebody:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/79246467@N03/7950479772/in/set-72157629861213795/

A beautiful bike.


On Saturday, December 22, 2012 2:28:23 AM UTC-7, Paul Y wrote:

 Real curious to know which 29er tires people are running on their big 
 Atlanti, especially along the lines of XC / trail riding. 

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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread dougP
Paul:

From a post regarding tires used in Alaska:

Rivendell Atlantis with 44mm SnowCat rims, mounted w/ an Nanoraptor.
It fits an Exiwolf up front. I had to shave the outer knobs off the
Exiwolf w/ a razor blade. It took forever. Fingers really hurt. The
interesting thing is that the Exiwolf fit the first year, but it was
realy close. Actually, it was too close. If I would've bent the
rim or broken a spoke on a long ride in 5 degree temps...well, that
would've been a bad idea.

The second winter I rode this set up I could only ride the Nanoraptor
on the rear. And it too would rub occasionally at very low pressures.

So, it's not a Pugsly, but the Atlantis is a damn versatile bike.

On Dec 22, 1:28 am, Paul Y paulyeoh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Real curious to know which 29er tires people are running on their big
 Atlanti, especially along the lines of XC / trail riding.

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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread dougP
Paul:

The link to the photos re:  Same Atlantis with a lot of different
tires (from Hawai'i to Alaska):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28720636@N02/sets/72157609908249398/

Enjoy!

dougP

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 Real curious to know which 29er tires people are running on their big
 Atlanti, especially along the lines of XC / trail riding.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It's too bad that Riv didn't add just another 2 cm overall to the tire
clearances on the Atlantis, to make an already versatile bike even more
versatile. As it is, the lack of space for more than ~55 mm would kill the
deal for me, even supposing I had the wherewithal to afford one. I've owned
a couple of frames that take 65s + fenders + mud room (one the Fargo, one
the old Diamond Back Axis Team (wthtm) .

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Paul:

 The link to the photos re:  Same Atlantis with a lot of different
 tires (from Hawai'i to Alaska):

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/28720636@N02/sets/72157609908249398/

 Enjoy!

 dougP

 On Dec 22, 1:28 am, Paul Y paulyeoh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Real curious to know which 29er tires people are running on their big
  Atlanti, especially along the lines of XC / trail riding.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 13:59 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 It's too bad that Riv didn't add just another 2 cm overall to the tire
 clearances on the Atlantis, to make an already versatile bike even
 more versatile. As it is, the lack of space for more than ~55 mm would
 kill the deal for me, even supposing I had the wherewithal to afford
 one. I've owned a couple of frames that take 65s + fenders + mud room
 (one the Fargo, one the old Diamond Back Axis Team (wthtm) .
 

2 cm is almost an inch.  That much extra clearance would make an
Atlantis unfenderable with normal road tires.  

If you want something that takes monster size tires, there are
specialized bikes just for that.  



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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Why? I used 60 mm Planet Bike fenders with both wheelsets, ie the Big Apple
and the Kojak wheelsets. No problem with either, unless a big air gap over
the latter is a problem.

65 mm tires aren't monster by any means, not when the market includes 4
tires. There is a huge difference, so I've been told, between the very
pavement rideable 60 mm Big Apples, and truly fat tires. Simon Rakower of
SnoCat fame said that he builds a lot of SnoCat wheels (the rims are 44 mm
wide) for fat bike owners who want something narrow.

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:



 2 cm is almost an inch.  That much extra clearance would make an
 Atlantis unfenderable with normal road tires.

 If you want something that takes monster size tires, there are
 specialized bikes just for that.



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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 14:20 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 Why? I used 60 mm Planet Bike fenders with both wheelsets, ie the Big
 Apple and the Kojak wheelsets. No problem with either, unless a big
 air gap over the latter is a problem.


Yes a big air gap is a problem, both aesthetically and in terms of
coverage/protection.

 
 
 65 mm tires aren't monster by any means, not when the market
 includes 4 tires. 

65mm tires are monster in comparison to 35 to 38mm, which is about
what the Atlantis is made for.   And recall, you asked for just under an
inch more clearance than the already ample clearance the Atlantis has
today.If not monster, that's certainly monstrous.



 There is a huge difference, so I've been told, between the very
 pavement rideable 60 mm Big Apples, and truly fat tires. Simon Rakower
 of SnoCat fame said that he builds a lot of SnoCat wheels (the rims
 are 44 mm wide) for fat bike owners who want something narrow.


I understand why you are interested in such enormous tires.  As I said,
there are bikes made for them.



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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread Bertin753


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On Dec 23, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 14:20 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 Why? I used 60 mm Planet Bike fenders with both wheelsets, ie the Big
 Apple and the Kojak wheelsets. No problem with either, unless a big
 air gap over the latter is a problem.
 
 
 Yes a big air gap is a problem, both aesthetically and in terms of
 coverage/protection.
Refuteo sic: no splashing withe the PB 60s and the Kojaks.
 
 
 
 65 mm tires aren't monster by any means, not when the market
 includes 4 tires. 
 
 65mm tires are monster in comparison to 35 to 38mm, which is about
 what the Atlantis is made for.   And recall, you asked for just under an
 inch more clearance than the already ample clearance the Atlantis has
 today.If not monster, that's certainly monstrous.

Not at all: it is merely generous.
 
 
 
 There is a huge difference, so I've been told, between the very
 pavement rideable 60 mm Big Apples, and truly fat tires. Simon Rakower
 of SnoCat fame said that he builds a lot of SnoCat wheels (the rims
 are 44 mm wide) for fat bike owners who want something narrow.
 
 
 I understand why you are interested in such enormous tires.  As I said,
 there are bikes made for them.

Enormous is the wrong word. Generous is correct. 

Patrick Moore, wise dtr is mnplzg the mcbk.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread dougP
Note that the guy with the Atlantis referenced in the above link lives in 
Alaska, which sort of specializes in extreme weather.  IMHO if it works 
there, it'll work anywhere.  He includes photos of a Pug with monster 
tires.  Maybe that's better during the dead of winter but it sure ain't 
heading to Hawai'i with a simple wheel change.  Versatility is a highly 
valuable virtue in a bike.  

dougP

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:01:09 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:



 Patrick Moore 
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 On Dec 23, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 

  On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 14:20 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: 
  Why? I used 60 mm Planet Bike fenders with both wheelsets, ie the Big 
  Apple and the Kojak wheelsets. No problem with either, unless a big 
  air gap over the latter is a problem. 
  
  
  Yes a big air gap is a problem, both aesthetically and in terms of 
  coverage/protection. 
 Refuteo sic: no splashing withe the PB 60s and the Kojaks. 
  
  
  
  65 mm tires aren't monster by any means, not when the market 
  includes 4 tires. 
  
  65mm tires are monster in comparison to 35 to 38mm, which is about 
  what the Atlantis is made for.   And recall, you asked for just under an 
  inch more clearance than the already ample clearance the Atlantis has 
  today.If not monster, that's certainly monstrous. 

 Not at all: it is merely generous. 
  
  
  
  There is a huge difference, so I've been told, between the very 
  pavement rideable 60 mm Big Apples, and truly fat tires. Simon Rakower 
  of SnoCat fame said that he builds a lot of SnoCat wheels (the rims 
  are 44 mm wide) for fat bike owners who want something narrow. 
  
  
  I understand why you are interested in such enormous tires.  As I said, 
  there are bikes made for them. 

 Enormous is the wrong word. Generous is correct. 

 Patrick Moore, wise dtr is mnplzg the mcbk. 
  
  
  
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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread Philip Williamson
You can use scissors to trim side knobs. Still takes forever, and hurts.

Philip
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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread Philip Williamson
You can use scissors to trim side knobs. Still takes forever, and hurts.

Philip
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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread Philip Williamson
You can use scissors to trim side knobs. Still takes forever, and hurts.

Philip
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Re: [RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

2012-12-23 Thread cyclotourist
All the cool kids cut with razor blades:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1665866450/in/set-72157602592825848/


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