[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
I have a Sam H. in the 52 CM size with 650B wheels. It has the single top tube. I am 5 foot 11 with an inseam of about 33 inches and Rivendell would have probably sized me up to the next size (I bought the frame from Renaissance Cycles). At that time none of the Sam's had the double tubes but I was afraid of the really long top tube length. Anyway, with the expanded geometry used in the Sam's I have found the bike to be quite comfortable and I had no problem getting the saddle high enough using a standard 330 mm Mountain Bike seat post though I probably show more seat post than the Riv, people would think is appropriate My observations on the Sam are that it is a great commuting bike, touring bike (I rode from Hong Kong to Shanghai on it three years ago) and just an excellent bike for general riding. I love it to death and can highly recommend it. That said it will never be confused with a sporty bike and even stripped down without racks, fenders and lights it is a fairly heavy machine. I don't think it climbs well and I find I need lower gears to negotiate hills than on other bikes. It also has a turning radius similar to a 1978 Buick Electra Station Wagon I can't make a 180 turn at least on the bike trails in Hong Kong without stopping, picking the bike up, turning it around and then remounting. I have found that I still like to have a lighter, less stretched out frame for faster, unloaded rides. If you are that type rider I'd look at the Soma San Macos frame. Lastly and this is true with any Rivendell design I think, plan on buying a shorter crank. They have very low bottom brackets which makes them really stable but being a centimeter (1/2 inch) or so closer to the ground means that you can easily get pedal strike through corners if you aren't careful At least that is my observation On Friday, February 15, 2013 8:19:36 AM UTC+10, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
I'll have to add my recommendation for the Atlantis, too. I have only had mine a year or so... and the thrill hasn't worn off yet! Truly a fine bike. However, whenever I ride my wife's (beautiful, same size as my Atlantis) Betty Foy, I find myself coveting the comfort and ease of that mixte frame... maybe one of each? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
I think I agree with James that your two best fully functional bikes would be the Atlantis or the Hilborne. They consistently get mentioned in the only one bike debate as good choices. I also agree that when you get on in age the Betty would do you well, if riding well into old age is a goal. I think most of us would be delighted with the versatility of the Betty Foy, even if step-throughs aren't yet our thing. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:19:36 PM UTC-8, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
We actually went with a custom tandem for retirement. I call it my Rollex. Since retiring, I find I have less need of a bike that will carry a load, like the Atlantis. Touring is more often on the tandem and always inn to inn. We take the canoe when we go camping. I now ride my Rambouillet more and rarely my Ebisu, which is set up for carrying loads. However I still ride a lot of dirt roads, in fact more now that I don't commute into town, so find I still want wider tires than the Ram can handle for those kind of rides. So, unless you plan on lugging a lot of stuff around, I would suggest the Rodeo. Put Jack Brown's on it and you'll be fine on dirt or pavement. If you actually see yourself touring then the Atlantis is a great choice. BTW, I just purchased my second Riv bike, the beautiful Saluki recently offered here. It should be delivered on Monday. So now I will have a fat tire Riv for the great dirt roads (although tres muddy today) here in northern Vermont. Michael On Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:19:36 PM UTC-5, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
the new Sam's will come in a 55cm size with a single top tube. That version would fit an 86.5 PBH pretty well with it's 58cm top tube length. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
I'd recommend a Betty Foy. Enthusiastically. So would Keven. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:19:36 PM UTC-8, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
I never met a bike that wasn't capable of growing old with ... lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
The Hunqapillar would be worth strong consideration. The extra tube is diagonal, which may appeal. Ian A Edmonton AB Canada. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:19:36 PM UTC-7, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
At 86.5 PBH, he'd be on a single TT Hunqapillar. On Friday, February 15, 2013 1:34:49 PM UTC-8, IanA wrote: The Hunqapillar would be worth strong consideration. The extra tube is diagonal, which may appeal. Ian A Edmonton AB Canada. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:19:36 PM UTC-7, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
So it sounds like number of TT's will not factor in, unless it's the Foy! That brings us back to the types of expeditions you envision and a projection of how much you would appreciate the step-through frame. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:37 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: At 86.5 PBH, he'd be on a single TT Hunqapillar. On Friday, February 15, 2013 1:34:49 PM UTC-8, IanA wrote: The Hunqapillar would be worth strong consideration. The extra tube is diagonal, which may appeal. Ian A Edmonton AB Canada. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:19:36 PM UTC-7, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
I don't own one, but I would vote for the Atlantis if your needs will involve some loaded riding. If you don't plan on weighing it down a ton and are going to primarily ride paved road or dirt roads, the A. Homer Hilsen is a top contender. If you plan on riding a bit more on the dirt end, Hunqapillar is a winner. I have a Sam Hillborne and love it, my next riv is a Roadeo though. I still do club riding so it made more sense for me to go that route. The Hillborne can do a lot of things really well, but if I was going to have only one bike to ride, I would have to pick an Atlantis. Screw it, get an Yves Gomez. Why not. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:19:36 PM UTC-6, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
Mark: Welcome to the group, and congratulations on your retirement. Yes, after 38 years, just get the best bike you want and don't compromise. Fortunately, any Rivendell model is a bike you can grow old with The designs allow a variety of set-ups, and it's easy to get the bars up high, so comfort is not an issue. Spend some time on the various photo groups you will see a wide range of set-ups, bars, seats, racks, tires, etc. I believe Grant one time referred to a bike frame as a place to hang the parts you like to get the bike you want. As to which model, think about what you want to do with the bike, and remember that the versatility allows you to do a lot of different things with the same bike. Do you want a nice bike to ramble around on? Do you know for sure you're going to load it down with 4 bags take off on extended tours? Is your main interest off-road trails? It's amazing how just adding some racks or changing the tires can transform a bike. When I bought my Atlantis 10 years ago, the model line-up was more limited than today. I knew for sure I was taking it touring and the Atlantis was the heaviest duty frame Riv made at the time. Rivendell had a wonderful brochure that showed Atlantis set up as touring bikes, commuters, mountain bikes, etc. So my choice was a lot easier than it would be today. I do 2 or 3 extended tours per year, but when I'm home the Atlantis is my go-to ride. To me, it's comfortable, stable and fun to ride off-road or on, loaded down or with minimal luggage. My intention when buying my Atlantis was that I wouldn't be needing to buy any more bikes. While I am occasionally tempted by interesting looking bikes, a deep breath reminds me that the Atlantis does everything I need a bike to do. After 10 years and well over 40,000 miles, the two of us are aging nicely together. dougP On Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:19:36 PM UTC-8, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
Fight the dying of the light. Get what works for you now. The future holds too many variables. Anyway, these bikes are pretty versatile. On Feb 15, 4:43 pm, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't own one, but I would vote for the Atlantis if your needs will involve some loaded riding. If you don't plan on weighing it down a ton and are going to primarily ride paved road or dirt roads, the A. Homer Hilsen is a top contender. If you plan on riding a bit more on the dirt end, Hunqapillar is a winner. I have a Sam Hillborne and love it, my next riv is a Roadeo though. I still do club riding so it made more sense for me to go that route. The Hillborne can do a lot of things really well, but if I was going to have only one bike to ride, I would have to pick an Atlantis. Screw it, get an Yves Gomez. Why not. On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:19:36 PM UTC-6, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
Welcome to the group, Mark. And there are plenty of us Rivsters here in the Twin Cities! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
Hey Mark, Well, first, you found something special here. I hope you grow to understand and appreciate that as much as I do. Next, I can't possibly climb inside your head and know what is right for you. But I can say that if that was the choice I was making at this moment I would choose an Atlantis, and likely somewhat custom (maybe setup for IG, and maybe even discs). Others have said something similar, so I'm just another voice among the many. Oddly, that same bike would not be my choice given my current circumstances (many years from retirement, and a very uncertain future). So maybe the best I can do is suggest that the realities of one's place in the timeline of their life should at least inform the choice. But I bet you knew that. All the best, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?
Hey Mark, The double TT is weird, but it has grown on me over time. I know you a little bit and I've worked on some of your bikes. Atlantis or Hunqapillar would be suitable, in my opinion, but that's a lot of cash for a frame. Whatever you get (or not), I hope you can come on the Midwest Country Bike Rally on June 1-2. Jim On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:19:36 PM UTC-6, markt...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
