Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Joel Stern]

I got lucky, I let the guy know I printed up all of our messages where he
stated made in Italy, OMAS.  He never replied to me but the issued a
credit.  I should know better, this was a good reminder.

Thanks Garth,

Joel

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:31 AM Garth  wrote:

>
>Joel, Ebay states in the policy to contact the seller first to try to
> resolve all issues, I forget the exact number of days but it's not that
> many. If the seller plays "I'm dumb, take the money and run" after that
> time Ebay will intervene and refund. It may take a online chat, but be
> polite, be firm, stick to the facts, and they will follow through..
> Alternatively, I've had only success with Paypal Buyer Protection on any
> such issues also, phone calls or chat. With both companies I've found email
> the least effective, then chats and telephone calls the most. All's Well !
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:44:38 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> So the eBay story, the seller will no longer answering  my messages, eBay
>> and paypal are no help. Reported to CC company, took card off of paypal and
>> bank balance is now only $5.  I have his eBay messages, so they have access
>> where he states that it is an OMAS Italian made hubset so it will not be a
>> problem, just a pain until I can file a report.  I have told him not to
>> ship it, all of my documentation is now printed out and in a file.
>>
>> I hate when I screw up.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes I have discovered that.  Thanks
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:01 PM Garth  wrote:
>>>

   Hey Joel, the hubs in that listing are not OMAS hubs !  They don't
 even have a brand label on them. OMAS rear hubs were 126mm and they went
 out of business before 135mm hubs were even invented for mtb's. The axle
 assembly looks very cheap, The QR appears aftermarket.   The seller used a
 brand name(with a question mark) to get attention, then in the listing said
 "don't know the maker". That's a misrepresentation of the
 hubs(double-talk), intentional or not. You have every "right" to request a
 refund. Your choice of course.



 On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote
>
> Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Garth]

 
   Joel, Ebay states in the policy to contact the seller first to try to 
resolve all issues, I forget the exact number of days but it's not that 
many. If the seller plays "I'm dumb, take the money and run" after that 
time Ebay will intervene and refund. It may take a online chat, but be 
polite, be firm, stick to the facts, and they will follow through.. 
Alternatively, I've had only success with Paypal Buyer Protection on any 
such issues also, phone calls or chat. With both companies I've found email 
the least effective, then chats and telephone calls the most. All's Well ! 

   

  


On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:44:38 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> So the eBay story, the seller will no longer answering  my messages, eBay 
> and paypal are no help. Reported to CC company, took card off of paypal and 
> bank balance is now only $5.  I have his eBay messages, so they have access 
> where he states that it is an OMAS Italian made hubset so it will not be a 
> problem, just a pain until I can file a report.  I have told him not to 
> ship it, all of my documentation is now printed out and in a file.  
>
> I hate when I screw up.  
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joel Stern  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes I have discovered that.  Thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:01 PM Garth > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   Hey Joel, the hubs in that listing are not OMAS hubs !  They don't 
>>> even have a brand label on them. OMAS rear hubs were 126mm and they went 
>>> out of business before 135mm hubs were even invented for mtb's. The axle 
>>> assembly looks very cheap, The QR appears aftermarket.   The seller used a 
>>> brand name(with a question mark) to get attention, then in the listing said 
>>> "don't know the maker". That's a misrepresentation of the 
>>> hubs(double-talk), intentional or not. You have every "right" to request a 
>>> refund. Your choice of course. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote

 Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.  


 https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[somervillebikes]

I have an OMAS titanium BB spindle in my parts bin... takes standard 
cartridge bearings. Never used it, but it looks like a fine piece of kit.

Anton
velolumino.com


On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:44:38 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> So the eBay story, the seller will no longer answering  my messages, eBay 
> and paypal are no help. Reported to CC company, took card off of paypal and 
> bank balance is now only $5.  I have his eBay messages, so they have access 
> where he states that it is an OMAS Italian made hubset so it will not be a 
> problem, just a pain until I can file a report.  I have told him not to 
> ship it, all of my documentation is now printed out and in a file.  
>
> I hate when I screw up.  
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joel Stern  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes I have discovered that.  Thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:01 PM Garth > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   Hey Joel, the hubs in that listing are not OMAS hubs !  They don't 
>>> even have a brand label on them. OMAS rear hubs were 126mm and they went 
>>> out of business before 135mm hubs were even invented for mtb's. The axle 
>>> assembly looks very cheap, The QR appears aftermarket.   The seller used a 
>>> brand name(with a question mark) to get attention, then in the listing said 
>>> "don't know the maker". That's a misrepresentation of the 
>>> hubs(double-talk), intentional or not. You have every "right" to request a 
>>> refund. Your choice of course. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote

 Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.  


 https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Joel Stern]

So the eBay story, the seller will no longer answering  my messages, eBay
and paypal are no help. Reported to CC company, took card off of paypal and
bank balance is now only $5.  I have his eBay messages, so they have access
where he states that it is an OMAS Italian made hubset so it will not be a
problem, just a pain until I can file a report.  I have told him not to
ship it, all of my documentation is now printed out and in a file.

I hate when I screw up.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

>
> Yes I have discovered that.  Thanks
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:01 PM Garth  wrote:
>
>>
>>   Hey Joel, the hubs in that listing are not OMAS hubs !  They don't even
>> have a brand label on them. OMAS rear hubs were 126mm and they went out of
>> business before 135mm hubs were even invented for mtb's. The axle assembly
>> looks very cheap, The QR appears aftermarket.   The seller used a brand
>> name(with a question mark) to get attention, then in the listing said
>> "don't know the maker". That's a misrepresentation of the
>> hubs(double-talk), intentional or not. You have every "right" to request a
>> refund. Your choice of course.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote
>>>
>>> Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Joel Stern]

Yes I have discovered that.  Thanks

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:01 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>   Hey Joel, the hubs in that listing are not OMAS hubs !  They don't even
> have a brand label on them. OMAS rear hubs were 126mm and they went out of
> business before 135mm hubs were even invented for mtb's. The axle assembly
> looks very cheap, The QR appears aftermarket.   The seller used a brand
> name(with a question mark) to get attention, then in the listing said
> "don't know the maker". That's a misrepresentation of the
> hubs(double-talk), intentional or not. You have every "right" to request a
> refund. Your choice of course.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote
>>
>> Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Garth]

  Hey Joel, the hubs in that listing are not OMAS hubs !  They don't even 
have a brand label on them. OMAS rear hubs were 126mm and they went out of 
business before 135mm hubs were even invented for mtb's. The axle assembly 
looks very cheap, The QR appears aftermarket.   The seller used a brand 
name(with a question mark) to get attention, then in the listing said 
"don't know the maker". That's a misrepresentation of the 
hubs(double-talk), intentional or not. You have every "right" to request a 
refund. Your choice of course. 



On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote
>
> Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.  
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Garth, I just bought them. Finally negotiated no shipping fee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OMAS-hubs-Set-HIGH-Polish-36h-front-rear-100mm-135mm-Freewheel-Vintage/172519796031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:10 PM Garth  wrote:

>
> No chances required Joel, they're excellent hubs. I remember seeing the
> brand in cycle racing books back in the day.
>
> http://sscycleworks.com/components/hubs-omas.html
>
> The O.M.A.S. company was started in 1960 in Bologna, Italy, as a job shop
>> for the famed Weber carburetor company. Two years later the company began
>> began making parts for Ruota Amadori, a maker of high-performance magnesium
>> alloy wheels for motorcycles and cars. The Amadori firm was acquired by
>> Campagnolo, which led to OMAS's producing parts for Campagnolo as well.
>> OMAS made titanium bolts and axles for the Campagnolo Super Record group.
>>
>> The OMAS-Campagnolo relationship lasted until 1977.
>>
>> Given OMAS's expertise in producing components in exotic alloys, it
>> wasn't long before the company began making bicycle parts on its own. The
>> project started at the request of cyclists who wanted lighter, yet still
>> reliable components. OMAS began designing and testing parts in 1974, and in
>> 1975 started making some light alloy lightening pieces for bikes. From
>> there, OMAS went on to making hubs, headsets, cranksets, bottom brackets
>> and bottle cages.
>>
>> The products were deservedly well-received. They were beautifully
>> designed and made. They gave superb, reliable service
>>
>> The firm has since folded. We can find no sign of the company after the
>> mid-1980s.
>>
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 1:52:51 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> Brewster, that was the only thing I could find. I may just take a chance
>> and buy the NOS hubs I found. Thanks
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Garth]

No chances required Joel, they're excellent hubs. I remember seeing the 
brand in cycle racing books back in the day. 

http://sscycleworks.com/components/hubs-omas.html

The O.M.A.S. company was started in 1960 in Bologna, Italy, as a job shop 
> for the famed Weber carburetor company. Two years later the company began 
> began making parts for Ruota Amadori, a maker of high-performance magnesium 
> alloy wheels for motorcycles and cars. The Amadori firm was acquired by 
> Campagnolo, which led to OMAS's producing parts for Campagnolo as well. 
> OMAS made titanium bolts and axles for the Campagnolo Super Record group.
>
> The OMAS-Campagnolo relationship lasted until 1977.
>
> Given OMAS's expertise in producing components in exotic alloys, it wasn't 
> long before the company began making bicycle parts on its own. The project 
> started at the request of cyclists who wanted lighter, yet still reliable 
> components. OMAS began designing and testing parts in 1974, and in 1975 
> started making some light alloy lightening pieces for bikes. From there, 
> OMAS went on to making hubs, headsets, cranksets, bottom brackets and 
> bottle cages.
>
> The products were deservedly well-received. They were beautifully designed 
> and made. They gave superb, reliable service
>
> The firm has since folded. We can find no sign of the company after the 
> mid-1980s. 
>

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>
> Brewster, that was the only thing I could find. I may just take a chance 
> and buy the NOS hubs I found. Thanks
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Brewster, I am waiting to hear back from the seller

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:04 PM Brewster Fong  wrote:

> Yeah, I think they stopped making bike parts like 40 years ago. But that
> doesn't mean what you found isn't good! If it works for you, I say go for
> it! Good Luck!
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:
>
>> Brewster, that was the only thing I could find. I may just take a chance
>> and buy the NOS hubs I found. Thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:10 AM Brewster Fong  wrote:
>>
>>> There is a page on them at the Classic Rendezvous site:
>>>
>>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/OMAS.htm
>>>
>>> I remember buying this part kit way back in the mid to late 80s. I still
>>> may have a nut or something in my box, but the parts were really light!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bikerecyclery.com/nib-o-m-a-s-complete-hardware-upgrade-kit-for-campagnolo-nuovo-super-record-alloy-ti/
>>>
>>> Good Luck!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 8:04:54 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:

 They seen to have worked with campy for a bit.  Any info is
 appreciated.

 Thanks

 Joel

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Brewster Fong]

Yeah, I think they stopped making bike parts like 40 years ago. But that 
doesn't mean what you found isn't good! If it works for you, I say go for 
it! Good Luck! 

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:

> Brewster, that was the only thing I could find. I may just take a chance 
> and buy the NOS hubs I found. Thanks
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:10 AM Brewster Fong  wrote:
>
>> There is a page on them at the Classic Rendezvous site:
>>
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/OMAS.htm
>>
>> I remember buying this part kit way back in the mid to late 80s. I still 
>> may have a nut or something in my box, but the parts were really light!
>>
>>
>> http://www.bikerecyclery.com/nib-o-m-a-s-complete-hardware-upgrade-kit-for-campagnolo-nuovo-super-record-alloy-ti/
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 8:04:54 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:
>>>
>>> They seen to have worked with campy for a bit.  Any info is appreciated. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Joel Stern]

Brewster, that was the only thing I could find. I may just take a chance
and buy the NOS hubs I found. Thanks

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:10 AM Brewster Fong  wrote:

> There is a page on them at the Classic Rendezvous site:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/OMAS.htm
>
> I remember buying this part kit way back in the mid to late 80s. I still
> may have a nut or something in my box, but the parts were really light!
>
>
> http://www.bikerecyclery.com/nib-o-m-a-s-complete-hardware-upgrade-kit-for-campagnolo-nuovo-super-record-alloy-ti/
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 8:04:54 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> They seen to have worked with campy for a bit.  Any info is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joel
>>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone ever hear of a parts builder OMAS.

[Brewster Fong]

There is a page on them at the Classic Rendezvous site:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/OMAS.htm

I remember buying this part kit way back in the mid to late 80s. I still 
may have a nut or something in my box, but the parts were really light!

http://www.bikerecyclery.com/nib-o-m-a-s-complete-hardware-upgrade-kit-for-campagnolo-nuovo-super-record-alloy-ti/

Good Luck!


On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 8:04:54 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> They seen to have worked with campy for a bit.  Any info is appreciated.  
>
> Thanks
>
> Joel
>

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