Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[Jay LePree]

Thanks Joel.  I did contact them.  The rep I spoke with said they were at 
the polishers and would not be available for at least 4 weeks.  But you are 
right, they look available on the website.  

Jay

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 8:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Jay, you’ve probably contacted velocity.  Looks like they may have them in 
> stock.  Or try Peter White. 
>
> https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-650b
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> On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 6:44 PM, Jay LePree  wrote:
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> Hi Joel S,
>
>   I don't think Velocity will stop production of rim brake compatible 
> rims.  I am concerned about quick availablity, quick defined as less than 6 
> weeks of rim brake compatible rimes, particularly in the 650B size.  I 
> think the lack of readily available rims is somewhat driven by the rise of 
> the disc brake.  An informal survey of two local shops shows the majority 
> of bikes for sale had discs on them. 
>
> I have been waiting since April for a 650B Velocity Quill rim. My internet 
> search shows more availability of disc brake compatible rims. 
>
> Jay
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:31:00 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Do you really think Velocity will discontinue rim brake compatible rims? 
>>
>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:49:39 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I recently sorted my unused rims, which had been thrown on hooks in 
>>> various part of the garage, and was somewhat shocked to find how many 650b 
>>> rims I had waiting to be built into wheels: four Velo-Orange Diagonale, two 
>>> Velocity A23, two A23 OC, two Synergy, two Grand Bois Papillon. Plus about 
>>> the same number each of 26" and 700c rims. Shows what several decades of 
>>> buying rims here and there in anticipation leads to. I even found several 
>>> unused Mavic MA2 and Module 3 rims, which are probably worth a fair bit 
>>> these days - I notice people on fleabay asking several hundred dollars for 
>>> these if new.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jay, you’ve probably contacted velocity. Looks like they may have them in 
stock. Or try Peter White.

https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-650b

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On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 6:44 PM, Jay LePree  wrote:

> Hi Joel S,
>
> I don't think Velocity will stop production of rim brake compatible rims. I 
> am concerned about quick availablity, quick defined as less than 6 weeks of 
> rim brake compatible rimes, particularly in the 650B size. I think the lack 
> of readily available rims is somewhat driven by the rise of the disc brake. 
> An informal survey of two local shops shows the majority of bikes for sale 
> had discs on them.
>
> I have been waiting since April for a 650B Velocity Quill rim. My internet 
> search shows more availability of disc brake compatible rims.
>
> Jay
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:31:00 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Do you really think Velocity will discontinue rim brake compatible rims?
>>
>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:49:39 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I recently sorted my unused rims, which had been thrown on hooks in various 
>>> part of the garage, and was somewhat shocked to find how many 650b rims I 
>>> had waiting to be built into wheels: four Velo-Orange Diagonale, two 
>>> Velocity A23, two A23 OC, two Synergy, two Grand Bois Papillon. Plus about 
>>> the same number each of 26" and 700c rims. Shows what several decades of 
>>> buying rims here and there in anticipation leads to. I even found several 
>>> unused Mavic MA2 and Module 3 rims, which are probably worth a fair bit 
>>> these days - I notice people on fleabay asking several hundred dollars for 
>>> these if new.
>>>
>>> Nick
>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[Jay LePree]

Hi Joel S,

  I don't think Velocity will stop production of rim brake compatible 
rims.  I am concerned about quick availablity, quick defined as less than 6 
weeks of rim brake compatible rimes, particularly in the 650B size.  I 
think the lack of readily available rims is somewhat driven by the rise of 
the disc brake.  An informal survey of two local shops shows the majority 
of bikes for sale had discs on them. 

I have been waiting since April for a 650B Velocity Quill rim. My internet 
search shows more availability of disc brake compatible rims. 

Jay
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:31:00 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Do you really think Velocity will discontinue rim brake compatible rims? 
>
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:49:39 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> I recently sorted my unused rims, which had been thrown on hooks in 
>> various part of the garage, and was somewhat shocked to find how many 650b 
>> rims I had waiting to be built into wheels: four Velo-Orange Diagonale, two 
>> Velocity A23, two A23 OC, two Synergy, two Grand Bois Papillon. Plus about 
>> the same number each of 26" and 700c rims. Shows what several decades of 
>> buying rims here and there in anticipation leads to. I even found several 
>> unused Mavic MA2 and Module 3 rims, which are probably worth a fair bit 
>> these days - I notice people on fleabay asking several hundred dollars for 
>> these if new.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[Garth]

In regards to the hub situation. upfront I know nothing of the bike biz 
and how things are made or acquired with retailers and vendors. 

What about Velocity hubs? 
The ATB is a cartridge bearing design with steel freehub body in black. 
Could they do silver for Riv ? 
The Economy ATB is cup/cone design in silver.
Has anyone @Riv ever tested either as to it's quality and suitability ? 
They have spare freehub bodies for the ATB hub.

Velocity told me the ATB hubs were fairly quiet, like Shimano. I myself 
find loud hubs(most designs) to be an insult to . all decency. 

The ATB hubs are made by Formula, deal with them direct ? 
The ATB version is the OV-91 and OV-32s. 
https://www.formulahubs.com/product.php?t=41
The Economy rear looks like a OV-32. The front the road hub called RB-56.
https://www.formulahubs.com/product.php?t=2

I know Riv offered the Silver hubs made by KT briefly. I don't know the 
whats and whys about it being no more. I would've bought one if it had a 
steel FH body(that's just my preference), but they appear to only offer 
aluminum ones. 
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4 Rich Lesnik wrote:

> Rims aren't an issue, fortunately (though certain models are delayed). Now 
> hubs, that's another question altogether!
>
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:36:22 AM UTC-7 Jay LePree wrote:
>
>> HI all:
>>
>> Still waiting for final build on my Platypus.  The delay is caused by a 
>> shortage of 650B rims for non-disc brakes.  Has anyone thought about stock 
>> piling a pair or so?  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jason LePree
>> Demarest, NJ
>>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[Rich Lesnik]

Rims aren't an issue, fortunately (though certain models are delayed). Now 
hubs, that's another question altogether!

On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:36:22 AM UTC-7 Jay LePree wrote:

> HI all:
>
> Still waiting for final build on my Platypus.  The delay is caused by a 
> shortage of 650B rims for non-disc brakes.  Has anyone thought about stock 
> piling a pair or so?  
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason LePree
> Demarest, NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Do you really think Velocity will discontinue rim brake compatible rims? 

On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:49:39 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> I recently sorted my unused rims, which had been thrown on hooks in 
> various part of the garage, and was somewhat shocked to find how many 650b 
> rims I had waiting to be built into wheels: four Velo-Orange Diagonale, two 
> Velocity A23, two A23 OC, two Synergy, two Grand Bois Papillon. Plus about 
> the same number each of 26" and 700c rims. Shows what several decades of 
> buying rims here and there in anticipation leads to. I even found several 
> unused Mavic MA2 and Module 3 rims, which are probably worth a fair bit 
> these days - I notice people on fleabay asking several hundred dollars for 
> these if new.
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[Nick Payne]

I recently sorted my unused rims, which had been thrown on hooks in various 
part of the garage, and was somewhat shocked to find how many 650b rims I 
had waiting to be built into wheels: four Velo-Orange Diagonale, two 
Velocity A23, two A23 OC, two Synergy, two Grand Bois Papillon. Plus about 
the same number each of 26" and 700c rims. Shows what several decades of 
buying rims here and there in anticipation leads to. I even found several 
unused Mavic MA2 and Module 3 rims, which are probably worth a fair bit 
these days - I notice people on fleabay asking several hundred dollars for 
these if new.

Nick

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[RBW] Re: Anyone going to stock pile 650B rims for non-disc brakes?

[E. Ricky Creek]

I'm usually not an alarmist, but I've been stockpiling parts since last 
April. I hope to ride rim brakes and 8 speed friction until I can't ride 
anymore, which I hope is 35-40 years from now. It was tough seeing all the 
shimano and sunrace 8 speed cassettes with a 34t dry up or go for way too 
much money. They are starting to show back up again slowly, but it spooked 
me. I have accumulated a pretty nice larder of consumables (tires, tubes, 
chains, brake pads, cables/housing, some rear hubs) in the last year. My 
next big project is buying 10 or so Sun CR18 rims (700c, polished, 36 
hole). I don't think 700c rims are going anywhere, but this particular rim 
may disappear some day and I just like how cheap and good they are. If you 
can afford to do so, I'd snatch up a couple extra 650b rims just to sleep 
better at night. I don't mind having parts on hand, even if they will all 
be available again next year, because I love bikes, bike parts, and I do 
all my own mechanics for my wife's bikes and mine (5 Rivendell's between 
us). 

On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-5 Jay LePree wrote:

> HI all:
>
> Still waiting for final build on my Platypus.  The delay is caused by a 
> shortage of 650B rims for non-disc brakes.  Has anyone thought about stock 
> piling a pair or so?  
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason LePree
> Demarest, NJ
>

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