Re: [RBW] Re: Best off road dynamo light?

[Tim Gavin]

Yup, that is sure bright.

But it still can't illuminate around corners for twisty singletrack.  And,
its beam seems to have no cut-off; so it blinds everyone oncoming, possibly
including low-flying aircraft.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> as an aside...check out this new 6000 lumen Cateye headlight.:
> https://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/HL-EL6000RC/
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[RBW] Re: Best off road dynamo light?

[Dave C]

I intend on using both a battery and a dynamo light. Could anyone tell me 
if the B Lumotec IQ Premium Cyo T Senso Plus that Peter White sells would 
be ok for off-road biking in tandem with a battery light?

On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 11:05:51 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I've talked before about this, but I'd welcome further information to 
> answer the question below, which I've not specifically asked before.
>
> While the Supernova E3 Triple 2 (weird name!) I ordered remains on 
> backorder, I have time to consider more closely the best light for my *off 
> road* riding needs. The Supernova E3 Triple 2 was recommended to me as 
> the brightest possible dynamo light, and for that reason the best for off 
> road use. But looking again at PJW's beam patterns, I'm not sure that the 
> Edeluxe II might not be better.
>
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp
>
> The light would be used on dirt surfaces, which include (a) irrigation 
> ditch roads and doubletrack with tricky, deepish sand and (b) tightly 
> winding, narrow , root-filled and tree-obstructed ditch paths enclosed by 
> trees -- with nearby dropoffs into irrigation ditches. Some sections of 
> these narrow ditch paths are confined and tricky enough that I walk them 
> even in daylight.
>  
> Note that (1) I have very bad night vision and (2) find the Edeluxe I 
> augmented by a moderately bright battery light (MiNewt on 250 lumen Medium 
> or a cheaper AA light on High) sufficient for the ditch roads, but the 
> combo would not suffice to allow me to ride the narrow ditch trails with 
> confidence; I daresay that the E I + the MN on 350 lumen high might.
>
> My needs are, in order of importance:
>
> 1. Best illumination for the off road riding described above. I want a 
> light that *needs no augmentation with a second light.*
>
> 2. All-round durability and reliability; would prefer -- but don't insist 
> on -- metal instead of plastic.
>
> 3. Compatibility with other mfrs' dynohubs and tail lights.
>
> 4. Design and looks.
>
> 5. That it not blind oncoming traffic, particularly oncoming bicyclists 
> (not too worried about cars -- long ago I owned one of NR's first HID 
> systems).
>
> I know, you are probably thinking that this self-referential egoist needs 
> to think about other cyclists, but the fact is that I don't meet very many 
> oncoming cyclists when riding at night the bikes that this light is meant 
> for.
>
> Note: I will continue as always to bring a secondary, battery light, for 
> use at stoplights and for roadside stops, but again, I want my main dynamo 
> light bright enough when used alone.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best off road dynamo light?

[Jim Bronson]

I believe so.  I don't ride off road with mine but I do ride on a narrow
paved trail at speeds up to 30mph. The light throws a pretty wide beam.
You'll probably want to helmet mount your battery light though.  I wish I
had a little more visibility around corners when I'm going over 17.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Dave C 
wrote:

> I intend on using both a battery and a dynamo light. Could anyone tell me
> if the B Lumotec IQ Premium Cyo T Senso Plus that Peter White sells
> would be ok for off-road biking in tandem with a battery light?
>
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 11:05:51 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I've talked before about this, but I'd welcome further information to
>> answer the question below, which I've not specifically asked before.
>>
>> While the Supernova E3 Triple 2 (weird name!) I ordered remains on
>> backorder, I have time to consider more closely the best light for my *off
>> road* riding needs. The Supernova E3 Triple 2 was recommended to me as
>> the brightest possible dynamo light, and for that reason the best for off
>> road use. But looking again at PJW's beam patterns, I'm not sure that the
>> Edeluxe II might not be better.
>>
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp
>>
>> The light would be used on dirt surfaces, which include (a) irrigation
>> ditch roads and doubletrack with tricky, deepish sand and (b) tightly
>> winding, narrow , root-filled and tree-obstructed ditch paths enclosed by
>> trees -- with nearby dropoffs into irrigation ditches. Some sections of
>> these narrow ditch paths are confined and tricky enough that I walk them
>> even in daylight.
>>
>> Note that (1) I have very bad night vision and (2) find the Edeluxe I
>> augmented by a moderately bright battery light (MiNewt on 250 lumen Medium
>> or a cheaper AA light on High) sufficient for the ditch roads, but the
>> combo would not suffice to allow me to ride the narrow ditch trails with
>> confidence; I daresay that the E I + the MN on 350 lumen high might.
>>
>> My needs are, in order of importance:
>>
>> 1. Best illumination for the off road riding described above. I want a
>> light that *needs no augmentation with a second light.*
>>
>> 2. All-round durability and reliability; would prefer -- but don't insist
>> on -- metal instead of plastic.
>>
>> 3. Compatibility with other mfrs' dynohubs and tail lights.
>>
>> 4. Design and looks.
>>
>> 5. That it not blind oncoming traffic, particularly oncoming bicyclists
>> (not too worried about cars -- long ago I owned one of NR's first HID
>> systems).
>>
>> I know, you are probably thinking that this self-referential egoist needs
>> to think about other cyclists, but the fact is that I don't meet very many
>> oncoming cyclists when riding at night the bikes that this light is meant
>> for.
>>
>> Note: I will continue as always to bring a secondary, battery light, for
>> use at stoplights and for roadside stops, but again, I want my main dynamo
>> light bright enough when used alone.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> --
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>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
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>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>> *
>> ***
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
>> circumference on which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities
>> revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Best off road dynamo light?

[Lungimsam]

as an aside...check out this new 6000 lumen Cateye headlight.:  
https://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/HL-EL6000RC/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best off road dynamo light?

[Patrick Moore]

Even with my poor night vision, the Edeluxe I is good enough for dirt roads
(not twisting singletrack) when augmented by 200 additional lumens from a
second lamp. I've got a $40 AA battery lamp that provides at least an hour
of 250l (tested it with used alkalines for a successful hour, but not with
new ones), not to mention the MiNewt.

I'd say, if you are not night blind, "yes."

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Dave C 
wrote:

> I intend on using both a battery and a dynamo light. Could anyone tell me
> if the B Lumotec IQ Premium Cyo T Senso Plus that Peter White sells
> would be ok for off-road biking in tandem with a battery light?
>
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 11:05:51 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I've talked before about this, but I'd welcome further information to
>> answer the question below, which I've not specifically asked before.
>>
>> While the Supernova E3 Triple 2 (weird name!) I ordered remains on
>> backorder, I have time to consider more closely the best light for my *off
>> road* riding needs. The Supernova E3 Triple 2 was recommended to me as
>> the brightest possible dynamo light, and for that reason the best for off
>> road use. But looking again at PJW's beam patterns, I'm not sure that the
>> Edeluxe II might not be better.
>>
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp
>>
>> The light would be used on dirt surfaces, which include (a) irrigation
>> ditch roads and doubletrack with tricky, deepish sand and (b) tightly
>> winding, narrow , root-filled and tree-obstructed ditch paths enclosed by
>> trees -- with nearby dropoffs into irrigation ditches. Some sections of
>> these narrow ditch paths are confined and tricky enough that I walk them
>> even in daylight.
>>
>> Note that (1) I have very bad night vision and (2) find the Edeluxe I
>> augmented by a moderately bright battery light (MiNewt on 250 lumen Medium
>> or a cheaper AA light on High) sufficient for the ditch roads, but the
>> combo would not suffice to allow me to ride the narrow ditch trails with
>> confidence; I daresay that the E I + the MN on 350 lumen high might.
>>
>> My needs are, in order of importance:
>>
>> 1. Best illumination for the off road riding described above. I want a
>> light that *needs no augmentation with a second light.*
>>
>> 2. All-round durability and reliability; would prefer -- but don't insist
>> on -- metal instead of plastic.
>>
>> 3. Compatibility with other mfrs' dynohubs and tail lights.
>>
>> 4. Design and looks.
>>
>> 5. That it not blind oncoming traffic, particularly oncoming bicyclists
>> (not too worried about cars -- long ago I owned one of NR's first HID
>> systems).
>>
>> I know, you are probably thinking that this self-referential egoist needs
>> to think about other cyclists, but the fact is that I don't meet very many
>> oncoming cyclists when riding at night the bikes that this light is meant
>> for.
>>
>> Note: I will continue as always to bring a secondary, battery light, for
>> use at stoplights and for roadside stops, but again, I want my main dynamo
>> light bright enough when used alone.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>> Other professional writing services.
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>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>> *
>> ***
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
>> circumference on which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities
>> revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
>>
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