[RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-28 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Great way to think about the RBW models! I tend to think of Rivendell 
bicycles like erector sets.  With a little bit of tinkering, you can end up 
with almost anything you can imagine. 

It's funny how I alternately try to get my Quickbeam and Hilsen to very 
close and then very far from each other, in terms of setup. 

They always seem to beg to be reinvented!

- J / cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-27 Thread justinaugust
With those chainstays it's to the left/trail of the Betty, assuming tubing is 
the same. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-26 Thread Tim Gavin
Nice concept, Richard.

My Riv Road Standard is probably somewhere between a San Marcos and a
Roadeo.  I've +1 stretched it into a country bike, which the 650b
conversion made possible.  I'm now +2 stretching it into a road touring
bike with panniers.  I feel I must see if the Riv can handle a touring load
before I start searching for a dedicated touring bike.

RJM:  the Betty Foy is a Sam mixte, according to Riv.  Where does that put
the Cheviot?  Is it more roadie or more off-roadie than the Betty/Sam?

Tim


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Bruce Herbitter
bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote:

 My Road, Ram and Saluki all have different geometry and I usually rotate
 rides among them. It rarely fails to happen that as I climb aboard the ride
 du jour, I remark to myself, This bike is sooo comfortable.



 On 3/25/2014 5:25 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I had a very similar thought.  I thought I'd sell my Sam and replace it
 with an Atlantis for the fancier lugs and nearly horizontal top tube.  I
 sold my Sam, never bothered to buy an Atlantis, and lucked out buying my
 Sam back!

 When I had a similar thought about selling my Homer, I instead parked it
 at my parents' house, so I'll have a bike to ride while I'm visiting.  Now,
 I find I'm desperately missing my Homer, so I think I'll bring my
 least-loved bike to my parents' house, and reclaim the Homer.  Then absence
 will make the heart grow fonder again.


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[RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-25 Thread Edwin W


 There was a great deal on a drop bar 60cm Sam a few weeks ago that I 
 really considered. I have a 60cm alba Sam that does everything I do on a 
 bike, but I thought it would fun to have a drop bar version as well. I 
 would build them up only slightly differently. One for town (albas), the 
 other for country road cruising. 

Town and Country,

Edwin 

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[RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I like it... good way to organize thoughts and I agree with the order.  The 
thing with nearly all of the Riv designs is the flexibility, I'd expand on 
the theme by saying that pretty much each of those models can be pressed 
into service up to +/- 2 on your Bike Stretch.  Particularly the 
Atlantis/Sam/Homer... I'd call all three of those the 'least constrained' 
bikes in the lineup.

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[RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-25 Thread RJM
You forgot the Betty Foy, Cheviot

My Cheviot, if I get one, is going to be my off road mountain bike. 


I can tell you from experience that the Roadeo is certainly more frisky 
road than a Sam Hillborne, but still rides like a riv. What I mean is that 
it feels a little quicker turning and quicker to get up to speed, but still 
rides comfortably like a Riv always does. 

I have thought of getting a Homer to take the place of Sam just because I 
like the fancier lugs and nearly horizontal top tube, but it would be 
purely fashion in front of function. 

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:37:08 PM UTC-5, Richard Rios wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I was thinking about adding adding a second Riv to compliment the Cheviot 
 / Hillborne I will be building up soon.  I was /  am trying to avoid a bike 
 that is to close in function.  So when I started thinking on it... this is 
 what I came up with (see below) :).  It kinda takes some liberty by adding 
 the Bomba / not being a production bike per say, and the San Marcos / being 
 a Soma.  But you could remove them and have roughly the same thing. After 
 doing this I kinda came to the conclusion that for every one Riv bike you 
 end up with 3.  So a Sam can be just a Sam / Road Touring bike or Stretched 
 (+1) into Atlantis Territory full blown touring, or stretched (-1) into 
 Homer's  country bike territory.  So potentially you could buy two of the 
 exact same model and stretch them to opposite ends and not end up with 
 the same bike at all. What do you think? 


   
   


 off road 
 expidition off road mountain  touring   road 
 touring country bikesport touringFrisky road

  
 BombaHunquaAtlantisSam HHomerSan 
 Marcos---Roadeo

   
 
  --
   

 +1Bike Stretch  -1
   
   
 for each given model



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[RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I had a very similar thought.  I thought I'd sell my Sam and replace it 
with an Atlantis for the fancier lugs and nearly horizontal top tube.  I 
sold my Sam, never bothered to buy an Atlantis, and lucked out buying my 
Sam back!  

When I had a similar thought about selling my Homer, I instead parked it at 
my parents' house, so I'll have a bike to ride while I'm visiting.  Now, I 
find I'm desperately missing my Homer, so I think I'll bring my least-loved 
bike to my parents' house, and reclaim the Homer.  Then absence will make 
the heart grow fonder again.  

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote:


 I have thought of getting a Homer to take the place of Sam just because I 
 like the fancier lugs and nearly horizontal top tube, but it would be 
 purely fashion in front of function. 




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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Stretch and the most all aroundish of all arounders?

2014-03-25 Thread Bruce Herbitter
My Road, Ram and Saluki all have different geometry and I usually rotate 
rides among them. It rarely fails to happen that as I climb aboard the 
ride du jour, I remark to myself, This bike is sooo comfortable.



On 3/25/2014 5:25 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I had a very similar thought.  I thought I'd sell my Sam and replace 
it with an Atlantis for the fancier lugs and nearly horizontal top 
tube.  I sold my Sam, never bothered to buy an Atlantis, and lucked 
out buying my Sam back!


When I had a similar thought about selling my Homer, I instead parked 
it at my parents' house, so I'll have a bike to ride while I'm 
visiting.  Now, I find I'm desperately missing my Homer, so I think 
I'll bring my least-loved bike to my parents' house, and reclaim the 
Homer.  Then absence will make the heart grow fonder again.


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