Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Excellent! Before you know it, you might have lots of Riv friends to ride around with. :) Remember, Clem H's won't be restocked, so if he's serious, he should look at their website before it's too late. Roberta On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 2:42:49 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > He loves it. He’s getting one - if not now, he says for sure later! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < > jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > Friends! > > > > I’m at REI but I can’t get my Clem back because the tech is in love with > it and out riding somewhere! > > > > He expressed all sorts of interest in it and had never heard of Riv, so > we chatted while he put the finishing touches on it and he is ALL KINDS OF > EXCITED. Keeps saying, “I really like this bike. Now THIS is a cool bike. I > saw it on the rack and the paint and the cork grips caught my attention. > I’m going to check it out online and I think this is going to be expensive > for me.” > > > > Update: He’s back and said “This bike rides BEAUTIFULLY!” > > > > See? This is why it all happened this way! > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_q8IKx_TGss/unsubscribe. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Nice work, Leah! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
He loves it. He’s getting one - if not now, he says for sure later! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: > > Friends! > > I’m at REI but I can’t get my Clem back because the tech is in love with it > and out riding somewhere! > > He expressed all sorts of interest in it and had never heard of Riv, so we > chatted while he put the finishing touches on it and he is ALL KINDS OF > EXCITED. Keeps saying, “I really like this bike. Now THIS is a cool bike. I > saw it on the rack and the paint and the cork grips caught my attention. I’m > going to check it out online and I think this is going to be expensive for > me.” > > Update: He’s back and said “This bike rides BEAUTIFULLY!” > > See? This is why it all happened this way! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_q8IKx_TGss/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Friends! I’m at REI but I can’t get my Clem back because the tech is in love with it and out riding somewhere! He expressed all sorts of interest in it and had never heard of Riv, so we chatted while he put the finishing touches on it and he is ALL KINDS OF EXCITED. Keeps saying, “I really like this bike. Now THIS is a cool bike. I saw it on the rack and the paint and the cork grips caught my attention. I’m going to check it out online and I think this is going to be expensive for me.” Update: He’s back and said “This bike rides BEAUTIFULLY!” See? This is why it all happened this way! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Thanks Ryan in Winnipeg, I know you offer sage advice and that I should chat with the shop one more time. I just can’t bring myself to do it a second time. The owner is just SO nice, and they are slammed with work right now. I suppose the thing that tips me over is that he wheeled my bike in and raved about what a lovely thing it was for several minutes. The guy deals Giant, but he told me he has referred several clients to Rivendell because the bikes are so superior. He tells them the Rivendells will make you happy forever, and he’s right. I can’t help but be a little won over, and I know that I am being ridiculous. I’ll still go to his shop in the future but I’ll be checking every inch of the bike when it comes back to me. Thanks for your kind words and a nudge in the right direction (though I’m mulishly going off the trails). George and Andy: yes, my preference is to take flat and repairs classes with other women. Much less intimidating when starting from ZERO wrenching knowledge. Hoping there are true novices in the room who won’t roll their eyes when I ask the most basic questions, ha. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 28, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Ryan Mallory Fleming > wrote: > > I agree with Roberta and Joe about calling the LBS on it. And I know, dear > Bicycle Belle that you won't be a harpy .. You are too articulate and kind to > be like that. And the BBITW would blush with shame..I am sure the LBS will do > the right thing.by you as I'm sure you are a good customer. they would be > sorry to lose. It's a crazy time for bike shops in spring > > Ryan in Winnipeg >> On Thursday, 28 March 2019 09:30:27 UTC-5, REC (Roberta) wrote: >> First, I typed this above: "Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 >> of knowledge on the subject of bike mechanics. " but I meant to type this: >> "Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 hour of knowledge on the >> subject of bike mechanics. " >> >> The pictures are lovely and I'm glad you got in some riding before >> everything broke again. I don't recall seeing so much green around you area >> (I guess I need to look around more, but it's such a driving-to-everywhere >> place), but I like the way your city is planned for open spaces. I guess as >> independent women, even though we prefer to support our LBS (and yours isn't >> very local), we need to know how to do some on-the-spot fixing. There are >> lots of videos on YouTube and I think I've also viewed some on the Riv site >> and on the Handsome Cycles site. >> >> I hope your bikes are doing well after some work at REI. I hope you do >> speak with the LBS, because they need to know if things aren't done >> correctly. >> >> Roberta >> >>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 7:06:39 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>> wrote: >>> Well, where should I begin? >>> >>> Overjoyed at the quick turnaround, I picked up my bikes on Monday. I made >>> big plans to do a big ride into town and run every errand by bike. The ride >>> home is ALL ascent. I had parked my vehicle with the bike rack on it in a >>> parking lot and was making my way to it when suddenly that darn front >>> derailleur began acting up. I fiddled with it, making it worse, until a >>> plastic thing fell off into my hands. The little collar that holds it up >>> against the frame had come off. The ONLY descent was into that parking lot, >>> so I coasted to the van. I called the LBS (“Craziest thing just >>> happened!”)and they told me to bring the bike and the pieces back. >>> >>> Today I took the broken (again) Betz and also tossed the Clem (whose brakes >>> needed attention) on the rack as well. The shop graciously fixed my Betz >>> and I asked if there was time for the Clem or if I should leave it there. >>> They fixed it on the spot. I was happy but in a hurry to get the boys form >>> school, so I paid double what they charged for the Clem and took off. >>> >>> Well. I got the bikes home, finally had time to inspect them, and the front >>> brake is WAY too tight on the Clem AND THE FRONT DERAILLEUR IS NO LONGER >>> WORKING. On the Clem. Not the Betz. And I paid double because I felt it was >>> kind of them to fit the Clem in. >>> >>> I know I should call. I know I should take it back, but it’s such a long >>> drive and I think I’m just done. I called REI and will take it there >>> instead. So bummed. Meanwhile, I’m on YouTube trying to figure out how to >>> fix derailleur - is this the nudge I needed to get myself a bike mechanic >>> education? >>> >>> PS The ride I did yesterday was lovely, as evidenced by these photos; more >>> of which can be seen on my Instagram... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_q8IKx_TGss/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
I agree with Roberta and Joe about calling the LBS on it. And I know, dear Bicycle Belle that you won't be a harpy .. You are too articulate and kind to be like that. And the BBITW would blush with shame..I am sure the LBS will do the right thing.by you as I'm sure you are a good customer. they would be sorry to lose. It's a crazy time for bike shops in spring Ryan in Winnipeg On Thursday, 28 March 2019 09:30:27 UTC-5, REC (Roberta) wrote: > > First, I typed this above: "Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 > of knowledge on the subject of bike mechanics. " but I meant to type this: > "Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 *hour* of knowledge on > the subject of bike mechanics. " > > The pictures are lovely and I'm glad you got in some riding before > everything broke again. I don't recall seeing so much green around you > area (I guess I need to look around more, but it's such a > driving-to-everywhere place), but I like the way your city is planned for > open spaces. I guess as independent women, even though we prefer to > support our LBS (and yours isn't very local), we need to know how to do > some on-the-spot fixing. There are lots of videos on YouTube and I think > I've also viewed some on the Riv site and on the Handsome Cycles site. > > I hope your bikes are doing well after some work at REI. I hope you do > speak with the LBS, because they need to know if things aren't done > correctly. > > Roberta > > On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 7:06:39 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: > >> Well, where should I begin? >> >> Overjoyed at the quick turnaround, I picked up my bikes on Monday. I made >> big plans to do a big ride into town and run every errand by bike. The ride >> home is ALL ascent. I had parked my vehicle with the bike rack on it in a >> parking lot and was making my way to it when suddenly that darn front >> derailleur began acting up. I fiddled with it, making it worse, until a >> plastic thing fell off into my hands. The little collar that holds it up >> against the frame had come off. The ONLY descent was into that parking lot, >> so I coasted to the van. I called the LBS (“Craziest thing just >> happened!”)and they told me to bring the bike and the pieces back. >> >> Today I took the broken (again) Betz and also tossed the Clem (whose >> brakes needed attention) on the rack as well. The shop graciously fixed my >> Betz and I asked if there was time for the Clem or if I should leave it >> there. They fixed it on the spot. I was happy but in a hurry to get the >> boys form school, so I paid double what they charged for the Clem and took >> off. >> >> Well. I got the bikes home, finally had time to inspect them, and the >> front brake is WAY too tight on the Clem AND THE FRONT DERAILLEUR IS NO >> LONGER WORKING. On the Clem. Not the Betz. And I paid double because I felt >> it was kind of them to fit the Clem in. >> >> I know I should call. I know I should take it back, but it’s such a long >> drive and I think I’m just done. I called REI and will take it there >> instead. So bummed. Meanwhile, I’m on YouTube trying to figure out how to >> fix derailleur - is this the nudge I needed to get myself a bike mechanic >> education? >> >> PS The ride I did yesterday was lovely, as evidenced by these photos; >> more of which can be seen on my Instagram... >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Andy - I see your points and agree with them - to a certain extent. Male or female, you'll be far better off it you can be well versed enough in all of the things that make a bike work, how they fit together, and what they're called when you take it in for repair and maintenance. This works for automobiles, too. When a mechanic or shop manager gets the impression that you know what you're talking about and can point to a specific problem, they'll be less likely to disregard your complaints and more likely to fix it. And with all of the resources available on the Web nowadays in the form of everything from specific forums (like this one) to how-to YouTube videos there is no reason why anyone can't get up to speed easily. Case in point: A few years ago my son and his family flew from where he lives in Colorado to Indianapolis to visit his mother, borrowed her car, and drove the couple of hundred miles up to see me in NE Illinois. When he pulled into the driveway he told me that he was having a hard time with braking and that he noticed a high-pitched squeal coming from the engine compartment. He said that his mother told him that she'd taken it in to the dealer numerous times to complain about the braking problem, but they always told her they couldn't find anything wrong. I took a look/listen under the hood, saw/heard that the squeal was coming from the vacuum assist booster behind the brake master cylinder. Armed with this info, I jumped onto the Web using search criteria containing the specific make, model, year, and symptoms of the car and within ten minutes I found a service bulletin explaining that one of the manufacturer's suppliers, the one who made the brake booster, had a known issue with a tear that develops in the rubber diaphragm inside the booster causing the squeal and difficult braking. Printed service bulletin in hand, I shipped him off to the nearest dealer and by the end of the day it had been replaced and the car was braking normally. Bicycles may be less complicated than automobiles, but the customer-LBS interactions are similar. One can find plenty of videos showing how to diagnose problems and conduct proper repairs. Park Tool Co. has probably one of the most comprehensive websites with plenty of videos showing how to use their products to maintain and/or repair bikes. Learn to speak the wrench's language and demonstrate to him that you know what your talking about and you'll be richer for it. On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 8:47:05 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote: > > I was about to say announcements for bike maintenance clinics, for women > hopefully. > > Men address problems differently and behave differently when problem > solving in an all male setting. Having taught those clinics I can say that > an audience of all women, they get the key points better, faster, with > quicker comprehension than in mixed clinics. > > That same difference creeps into service departments and interpretation of > issues in need of repair unfortunately (I see the same in diagnostic > approach at work and am stunned that such gender related approaches got > through all the classroom training, clinical experience and practice). > > Andy Cheatham > Pittsburgh > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
I was about to say announcements for bike maintenance clinics, for women hopefully. Men address problems differently and behave differently when problem solving in an all male setting. Having taught those clinics I can say that an audience of all women, they get the key points better, faster, with quicker comprehension than in mixed clinics. That same difference creeps into service departments and interpretation of issues in need of repair unfortunately (I see the same in diagnostic approach at work and am stunned that such gender related approaches got through all the classroom training, clinical experience and practice). Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
My guess is you're doing Rock Climbing Basics -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
I very much agree about letting the LBS know they're about to lose repair/maintenance business. Someone needs to be checking the work before the customer shows up, this experience with Leah is unacceptable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
First, I typed this above: "Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 of knowledge on the subject of bike mechanics. " but I meant to type this: "Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 *hour* of knowledge on the subject of bike mechanics. " The pictures are lovely and I'm glad you got in some riding before everything broke again. I don't recall seeing so much green around you area (I guess I need to look around more, but it's such a driving-to-everywhere place), but I like the way your city is planned for open spaces. I guess as independent women, even though we prefer to support our LBS (and yours isn't very local), we need to know how to do some on-the-spot fixing. There are lots of videos on YouTube and I think I've also viewed some on the Riv site and on the Handsome Cycles site. I hope your bikes are doing well after some work at REI. I hope you do speak with the LBS, because they need to know if things aren't done correctly. Roberta On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 7:06:39 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Well, where should I begin? > > Overjoyed at the quick turnaround, I picked up my bikes on Monday. I made > big plans to do a big ride into town and run every errand by bike. The ride > home is ALL ascent. I had parked my vehicle with the bike rack on it in a > parking lot and was making my way to it when suddenly that darn front > derailleur began acting up. I fiddled with it, making it worse, until a > plastic thing fell off into my hands. The little collar that holds it up > against the frame had come off. The ONLY descent was into that parking lot, > so I coasted to the van. I called the LBS (“Craziest thing just > happened!”)and they told me to bring the bike and the pieces back. > > Today I took the broken (again) Betz and also tossed the Clem (whose > brakes needed attention) on the rack as well. The shop graciously fixed my > Betz and I asked if there was time for the Clem or if I should leave it > there. They fixed it on the spot. I was happy but in a hurry to get the > boys form school, so I paid double what they charged for the Clem and took > off. > > Well. I got the bikes home, finally had time to inspect them, and the > front brake is WAY too tight on the Clem AND THE FRONT DERAILLEUR IS NO > LONGER WORKING. On the Clem. Not the Betz. And I paid double because I felt > it was kind of them to fit the Clem in. > > I know I should call. I know I should take it back, but it’s such a long > drive and I think I’m just done. I called REI and will take it there > instead. So bummed. Meanwhile, I’m on YouTube trying to figure out how to > fix derailleur - is this the nudge I needed to get myself a bike mechanic > education? > > PS The ride I did yesterday was lovely, as evidenced by these photos; more > of which can be seen on my Instagram... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Try A Vegas Mobile Bike repair ! Apparently, they'll come to your home and* work while you are present *, get it ? Be curious about what they are doing and you just may get some curiously helpful hints on adjusting whatever . There are 3 to choose from . https://www.yelp.com/biz/las-vegas-mobile-bike-repair-las-vegas https://www.yelp.com/biz/mcgs-rollin-workshop-henderson-6 https://www.yelp.com/biz/velofix-las-vegas-5?osq=velofix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Haha, Joe. An intervention...it’s come to this! I’m gonna take the Clem to get the super-sonic-wooper-dooper cleaning job REI offers, so not a total loss. The Clem’s rightful owner didn’t put many miles on it, but it’s from 2015 or 2016, so probably time to get it cleaned and frame-savered and tuned up. Especially because it’s mine now. I rightfully stole it, so it’s rightfully mine and I have standards. I’ve done a lot of mental gymnastics to find this “bright side” - and if something breaks on the Betz tomorrow and I’m bikeless again I will be beyond consolation. Or finagling a way to fit on the #littlesilverclem. Don’t think I won’t do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
I'm seriously about ready for a Vegas vacation. "Welcome to Las Vegas, sir, what are you here for? The shows? The casinos?" "No ma'am, I'm on business. Leah's bikes." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Kent - Yes! So true - I think I’ve actually done this before. But I am a crackerjack bike-rack operator on the two I own, and I think I can absolve myself from rack mistakes now. Also, they are tray types and don’t much interfere with anything. At least I think. Hey, why don’t any of you folks live in Vegas so we would know for sure?!? Sent from my iPad > On Mar 27, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon > wrote: > > Speaking as a mechanic, one thing that we see a lot of is people taking a > perfectly working bike, putting it in a car or on a rack, getting it home and > then it is no longer working. Often it is a cable housing that has has been > nudged or knocked out of a cable stop but there are a range of things that > could have happened. > > I'm not saying that this is what happened here, but it is a possibility. > > Kent Peterson > Eugene, Oregon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_q8IKx_TGss/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Speaking as a mechanic, one thing that we see a lot of is people taking a perfectly working bike, putting it in a car or on a rack, getting it home and then it is no longer working. Often it is a cable housing that has has been nudged or knocked out of a cable stop but there are a range of things that could have happened. I'm not saying that this is what happened here, but it is a possibility. Kent Peterson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Aaand that’s one of the challenges with modern bike shops. It is hard to find one that just gets the job done right the first time. I’d suggest you talk with the owner, letting him know so he has the option of making things right. Far better to have held the bikes longer and done the job right the first time. Whoever the mechanic was both times should be shown what they did wrong and helped to learn how to do it right. You’re describing pretty basic things a good mechanic would have gotten right. Second, mechanics of Rivendell bikes are not that hard. If you are comfortable sitting on the floor or squatting, you really don’t even need a repair stand. I followed the “learn as I go method” as jobs required. I bought the tools that job required and that helped spread out the overwhelming nature of the whole thing, and was easier on the budget. Grin. Derailures still baffle me, and perhaps always will. Learn what you can, knowing you can always fall back on your LBS if needed. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Leah, Great story as usual; happy ending even if you lost out on a ride on the #stolenclemneglectedforebikejoyandawinwinforpartnerridingnow +1 for supporting your LBS even I support mine still after taking 2 bike mechanic courses through the winter months. Ask your LBS whether they will host a ladies one with wine and wrenching . Roberta, The AAA bike assistance fact is something all riders who prefer riding to wrenching should be knowledgeable about. Thanks for sharing. Sincerely, Ryan “jealous non bicycle belle” Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
But it would be just right! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 25, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Now see, Leah, if I lived nearby you could bring your bikes to me and have > them back in a month!* > > *inside joke about how long it's taking me to assemble a bike that was > delivered to me partially assembled > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_q8IKx_TGss/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Now see, Leah, if I lived nearby you could bring your bikes to me and have them back in a month!* *inside joke about how long it's taking me to assemble a bike that was delivered to me partially assembled -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
I'm not remarkable. Between you and me, we probably have about 1/2 of
knowledge on the subject of bike mechanics. While I wouldn't mind learning
more, I'm just as happy to support my LBS.
What IS funny, is that I never ("Well, hardly ever", for those of you who
get the G reference) leave for a ride without wrenches and the flat
fixing tools. I've loaned those out more times than I've used them myself
to the heads-down weight obsessed bikers who won't pack emergency
equipment or a pump because it weighs 4 oz.( or whatever they weigh). I
also carry my AAA card, because now they will help you if your bike breaks
down.
So, onto the good news! That is excellent and I bet L will be so happy to
have his bike returned so soon and in perfect riding condition! What a
nice after school surprise.
Here's my guess--the owner of the store went out of his way to get them
done as soon as possible because it was you. Give a little, get a lot.
Roberta
On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 3:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:
> Roberta, I’ve said it before: you are a remarkable woman. Had we had more
> time together at our last visit, I might have begged you to show me your
> ways so I, too, could take off a wheel!
>
> I was in a poor mood this morning after having to drive instead of bike in
> lovely weather. I passed the crossing guard, who stations himself at 7:25
> at the far crossing because he’s expecting the boys and me. (This is a true
> story - very few people are ever using the far crossing, and he waits there
> to be our escort. Precious.) I wanted to yell an explanation out the
> window, but I decided not the cause a car crash instead.
>
> I slogged through the typical Monday drudgery (menu-planning, grocery
> shopping, etc) and decided as a reward, I’d take #thestolenclem for a ride
> after I got my chores done and before I have to pick up the boys. I was
> really looking forward to it, and thenthe phone rang.
>
> “Your bikes are ready to be picked up!”
>
> Wow, such service! I’m so happy but for the fact that I will not get to
> ride. I will get to drive for 30 minutes, retrieve my bikes and hopefully
> make it back in time to get my Baby Bear and The Clem Rider.
>
> I’m off! I’ll be two bikes richer in an hour, folks!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 5:57 AM, REC (Roberta) > wrote:
>
> I know how to change a tire (on the front) but like you I take mine to
> the LBS to help support them in business the little I can. What's really a
> shame is that your ride your bike every day, and they know it. I'd bet
> those other bikes will get picked up within the next weekend or two and
> then sit in the garage until Memorial day. Still, I guess the only good
> news here is that people are wanting to ride.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 1:02:25 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> We were all set to ride to the boys’ volleyball game at school today - my
>> whole family. Inexplicably, the front derailer on the Betz would not work.
>> At all. And it was not that little wingnut, which is the only thing I know
>> to fix. Also, the Cygolite is missing a piece! I’m the only one with access
>> to this bike and I didn’t crash it - a true mystery. Fine, I’ll ride the
>> stolen Clem, alright? My husband has a big ugly e-bike, so he won’t miss
>> his old under-appreciated Clem. I had to move Baby Bear’s little Hotrock
>> out of the way, at which point I discovered his front tire WAS TOTALLY
>> FLAT. This is the same tire I posted about a couple of months ago. That’s
>> it; it’s going in, along with my Betz.
>>
>> I arrived at the shop and the owner loves me because I’m totally
>> worthless but I pay my bills. We have a mutual affection - he performs
>> hocus pocus and sprinkles fairy dust and my bike comes back to life; and I
>> pay the bill and shower him with all the praise and appreciation for
>> returning TBBITW in fine form. I decide that every single major and minor
>> issue with these bikes will be written up and addressed this trip. His
>> assistant kindly writes it all down (and I am not one to use words
>> sparingly) and then tells me to expect the bike back on Thursday.
>>
>> Thursday?
>>
>> I gulp. The weather is going to be sublime all week long - FINALLY - and
>> we need these bikes for it. It’s one thing for me to lower myself and try
>> to commute with the Clem instead of TBBITW, but Baby Bear has *nothing* to
>> ride. I am, essentially, bike-grounded.
>>
>> “Oh,” I say, “I suppose this time of year gets busy.”
>>
>> “Yes,” chirps the helpful employee, “People bring their bikes in and say
>> the weather is nice and maybe they should ride the bike they have in their
>> garage. And I tell them, ‘Of course!’ I mean, that’s great, right?!”
>>
>> I smile and nod and pretend to agree but really I’m thinking that these
>> people and their under-utilized, garage queen bikes that they will likely
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Good ending to the story. But the whole bike shop back log ordeal is the reason why I learned to wrench on my own bikes. YouTube and places like this on the net are valuable resources. I can pretty much do everything I need to fix on the bike now. Caveat: side effects include garage full of tools, being known as the neighborhood bike fixer person (hence building up a queue of your own), having as much fun tinkering with bikes than riding them (almost), and the occasional dreaded walk of shame to the bike shop with a mangled bike part in hand you tried to fix. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Roberta, I’ve said it before: you are a remarkable woman. Had we had more time together at our last visit, I might have begged you to show me your ways so I, too, could take off a wheel! I was in a poor mood this morning after having to drive instead of bike in lovely weather. I passed the crossing guard, who stations himself at 7:25 at the far crossing because he’s expecting the boys and me. (This is a true story - very few people are ever using the far crossing, and he waits there to be our escort. Precious.) I wanted to yell an explanation out the window, but I decided not the cause a car crash instead. I slogged through the typical Monday drudgery (menu-planning, grocery shopping, etc) and decided as a reward, I’d take #thestolenclem for a ride after I got my chores done and before I have to pick up the boys. I was really looking forward to it, and thenthe phone rang. “Your bikes are ready to be picked up!” Wow, such service! I’m so happy but for the fact that I will not get to ride. I will get to drive for 30 minutes, retrieve my bikes and hopefully make it back in time to get my Baby Bear and The Clem Rider. I’m off! I’ll be two bikes richer in an hour, folks! Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2019, at 5:57 AM, REC (Roberta) wrote: > > I know how to change a tire (on the front) but like you I take mine to the > LBS to help support them in business the little I can. What's really a shame > is that your ride your bike every day, and they know it. I'd bet those other > bikes will get picked up within the next weekend or two and then sit in the > garage until Memorial day. Still, I guess the only good news here is that > people are wanting to ride. > > Roberta > >> On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 1:02:25 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> We were all set to ride to the boys’ volleyball game at school today - my >> whole family. Inexplicably, the front derailer on the Betz would not work. >> At all. And it was not that little wingnut, which is the only thing I know >> to fix. Also, the Cygolite is missing a piece! I’m the only one with access >> to this bike and I didn’t crash it - a true mystery. Fine, I’ll ride the >> stolen Clem, alright? My husband has a big ugly e-bike, so he won’t miss his >> old under-appreciated Clem. I had to move Baby Bear’s little Hotrock out of >> the way, at which point I discovered his front tire WAS TOTALLY FLAT. This >> is the same tire I posted about a couple of months ago. That’s it; it’s >> going in, along with my Betz. >> >> I arrived at the shop and the owner loves me because I’m totally worthless >> but I pay my bills. We have a mutual affection - he performs hocus pocus and >> sprinkles fairy dust and my bike comes back to life; and I pay the bill and >> shower him with all the praise and appreciation for returning TBBITW in fine >> form. I decide that every single major and minor issue with these bikes will >> be written up and addressed this trip. His assistant kindly writes it all >> down (and I am not one to use words sparingly) and then tells me to expect >> the bike back on Thursday. >> >> Thursday? >> >> I gulp. The weather is going to be sublime all week long - FINALLY - and we >> need these bikes for it. It’s one thing for me to lower myself and try to >> commute with the Clem instead of TBBITW, but Baby Bear has *nothing* to >> ride. I am, essentially, bike-grounded. >> >> “Oh,” I say, “I suppose this time of year gets busy.” >> >> “Yes,” chirps the helpful employee, “People bring their bikes in and say the >> weather is nice and maybe they should ride the bike they have in their >> garage. And I tell them, ‘Of course!’ I mean, that’s great, right?!” >> >> I smile and nod and pretend to agree but really I’m thinking that these >> people and their under-utilized, garage queen bikes that they will likely >> throw a leg over once or twice this year are AHEAD OF ME IN LINE. I am >> selfish and impatient and don’t want to see from Saturday to Thursday the >> empty place in the garage that my bike occupies. My mind is racing but I >> keep my composure and slide in a sly, “Ok, well I guess I can drive the kids >> to school this week. What a shame the weather will be so perfect. Let me >> know if it gets done sooner?” >> >> I know that I’m whining and that I have only myself to blame. If I knew a >> thing or two about bike maintenance and repair, I would not be in this fix. >> Don’t trouble yourselves coming up with solutions; I know I need an >> education but I just haven’t done it because that shop and its agreeable >> owner exist. Now you’re here having to read this drivel and it’s not your >> fault and you don’t deserve this BUTI will leave you with the feel-good >> video because you’ve been such good sports. Patrick Moore posted it eons ago >> and I’ve watched it dozens of times because I love is sooo much. It’s about >> a very old bike shop in Europe and the
[RBW] Re: Bikelessness
I know how to change a tire (on the front) but like you I take mine to the LBS to help support them in business the little I can. What's really a shame is that your ride your bike every day, and they know it. I'd bet those other bikes will get picked up within the next weekend or two and then sit in the garage until Memorial day. Still, I guess the only good news here is that people are wanting to ride. Roberta On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 1:02:25 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > We were all set to ride to the boys’ volleyball game at school today - my > whole family. Inexplicably, the front derailer on the Betz would not work. > At all. And it was not that little wingnut, which is the only thing I know > to fix. Also, the Cygolite is missing a piece! I’m the only one with access > to this bike and I didn’t crash it - a true mystery. Fine, I’ll ride the > stolen Clem, alright? My husband has a big ugly e-bike, so he won’t miss > his old under-appreciated Clem. I had to move Baby Bear’s little Hotrock > out of the way, at which point I discovered his front tire WAS TOTALLY > FLAT. This is the same tire I posted about a couple of months ago. That’s > it; it’s going in, along with my Betz. > > I arrived at the shop and the owner loves me because I’m totally worthless > but I pay my bills. We have a mutual affection - he performs hocus pocus > and sprinkles fairy dust and my bike comes back to life; and I pay the bill > and shower him with all the praise and appreciation for returning TBBITW in > fine form. I decide that every single major and minor issue with these > bikes will be written up and addressed this trip. His assistant kindly > writes it all down (and I am not one to use words sparingly) and then tells > me to expect the bike back on Thursday. > > Thursday? > > I gulp. The weather is going to be sublime all week long - FINALLY - and > we need these bikes for it. It’s one thing for me to lower myself and try > to commute with the Clem instead of TBBITW, but Baby Bear has *nothing* to > ride. I am, essentially, bike-grounded. > > “Oh,” I say, “I suppose this time of year gets busy.” > > “Yes,” chirps the helpful employee, “People bring their bikes in and say > the weather is nice and maybe they should ride the bike they have in their > garage. And I tell them, ‘Of course!’ I mean, that’s great, right?!” > > I smile and nod and pretend to agree but really I’m thinking that these > people and their under-utilized, garage queen bikes that they will likely > throw a leg over once or twice this year are AHEAD OF ME IN LINE. I am > selfish and impatient and don’t want to see from Saturday to Thursday the > empty place in the garage that my bike occupies. My mind is racing but I > keep my composure and slide in a sly, “Ok, well I guess I can drive the > kids to school this week. What a shame the weather will be so perfect. Let > me know if it gets done sooner?” > > I know that I’m whining and that I have only myself to blame. If I knew a > thing or two about bike maintenance and repair, I would not be in this fix. > Don’t trouble yourselves coming up with solutions; I know I need an > education but I just haven’t done it because that shop and its agreeable > owner exist. Now you’re here having to read this drivel and it’s not your > fault and you don’t deserve this BUTI will leave you with the feel-good > video because you’ve been such good sports. Patrick Moore posted it eons > ago and I’ve watched it dozens of times because I love is sooo much. It’s > about a very old bike shop in Europe and the man who owns it. And if you > watch it to the 9:15 mark, you’ll see me guest-starring. I’m a 70 year old > woman who can’t fix a flat and comes crying to the bike shop. But unlike > her, I make a mean sandwich. > > https://vimeo.com/133432406 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bikelessness
Thanks for the hilarious story! My only suggestion is to get yourself a bike-geek friend who preferably lives close by. Down the block is best, although good* bike-geeks are somewhat rare, and you may not be so lucky. Anyway, I know this is the way to go because I'm such a bike-geek to some of my friends. A bag of coffee beans and perhaps some baked goods are usually enough of a bribe to get the bike cleaned, waxed, tuned and even (cheaper) parts replaced for free, in about a day, or sooner if it's a weekend and I'm done with chores. They may have to suffer some nonsense from me about not keeping their bikes sparkling clean, but that's about it. Oh yeah, no cigarettes please. ** defined as those who had worked in bike shops before, or are nerdy enough to have accumulated the required knowledge through sheer willpower and time.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
