Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Eric Floden]

My 60cm Bomba has 700's...

EricF
Vancouver

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 12:30, Jason Fuller  wrote:

>
>
> Jay - this frame, and most Bombadils, is 650B.  I used to believe they all
> were 650, but iirc some of the biggest sizes are 700c. Good eye on the
> tires - can't wait to ride them!  I bought them in September but haven't
> put a mile on them yet.
>
> w-owners-bunch/CAGBpHnfsgbM10M9j_Xt0M57-NpotUhuquBGfHfaMkZ6Qyxxkrg%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Jason Fuller]

Thanks Juan! It's a 52cm, which came with dual TT's only for the first
batch or two from my understanding.

Erik, Paul, Ryan, Joe - appreciated! I tend to agree :D

Jay - this frame, and most Bombadils, is 650B.  I used to believe they all
were 650, but iirc some of the biggest sizes are 700c. Good eye on the
tires - can't wait to ride them!  I bought them in September but haven't
put a mile on them yet.



On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 12:18 PM Juan Medina  wrote:

> That;s one gorgeous bike! What’s the frame size?
>
> JM
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 1, 2022, at 8:30 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Very nice Jason! That model Rivendell is becoming the "classic". Fully
> lugged, details, "standard" chain stays, etc. To boot, it's bombproof and
> has room for wide tires.
>
> Of course, "classic" is a moving target. Expectations for a frame change
> over time and parts for older bikes get harder to obtain, pushing some
> older "classics" into the realm of "vintage". But unlike carbon, it takes
> decades for that transition.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Erik 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Fri, Dec 31, 2021 8:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>
> That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to
> see ride reports once its all built up!
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient.
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing,
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality.
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes
> according to plan!
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>
> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety
> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I
> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs
> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better,
> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>
> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of
> mess after every ride.
>
> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>
> Adam
>
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Jason,
>
> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety
> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6
> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once
> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the
> wheel removed while loading it into the van.
>
> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into
> place, no harm done.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Fuller 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>
> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender
> ruinage and full body aches.
>
> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which
> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was,
> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure
> this avoids the problem entirely.
>
> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?
> Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>
> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's
> trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on
> the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Juan Medina]

That;s one gorgeous bike! What’s the frame size? 

JM

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 8:30 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Very nice Jason! That model Rivendell is becoming the "classic". Fully 
> lugged, details, "standard" chain stays, etc. To boot, it's bombproof and has 
> room for wide tires. 
> 
> Of course, "classic" is a moving target. Expectations for a frame change over 
> time and parts for older bikes get harder to obtain, pushing some older 
> "classics" into the realm of "vintage". But unlike carbon, it takes decades 
> for that transition.
> 
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Fri, Dec 31, 2021 8:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
> 
> That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to see 
> ride reports once its all built up!
> 
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might be a 
> couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
> 
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new parts. 
> Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars will be 
> wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender flaps, and the 
> rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was painted by Chris 
> Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, addition of Rene Herse 
> tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell would have charged, and 
> it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
> 
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes according 
> to plan! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
> 
> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety tabs. 
> I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I caught a 
> bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs released, the 
> wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, but I'm still 
> totally ready to abandon the combination.
> 
> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of mess 
> after every ride.
> 
> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
> Jason,
> 
> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety Tabs 
> will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 years. 
> Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once dropped 
> the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the wheel 
> removed while loading it into the van. 
> 
> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into 
> place, no harm done.
> 
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Fuller 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
> 
> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
> ruinage and full body aches. 
> 
> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which tossed 
> me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, I 
> haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure this 
> avoids the problem entirely.  
> 
> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?  
> Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's 
> trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on 
> the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think will do the 
> trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to try, but alas, I 
> have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the knobby 
> Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
> Jason,
> 
> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike weekly, 
> pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of times 
> since then. I really 
> hope I can get back into the habit once p

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Joe Bernard]

That paint is AMAZING!!! 



On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might 
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new 
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars 
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender 
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was 
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, 
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell 
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes 
> according to plan! 
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>>
>> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety 
>> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I 
>> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs 
>> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, 
>> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>>
>> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of 
>> mess after every ride.
>>
>> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, 
>>>
>>> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety 
>>> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 
>>> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once 
>>> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the 
>>> wheel removed while loading it into the van. 
>>>
>>> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back 
>>> into place, no harm done.
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Fuller 
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>>>
>>> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
>>> ruinage and full body aches. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which 
>>> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, 
>>> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure 
>>> this avoids the problem entirely.  
>>>
>>> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a 
>>> bit?  Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>>>
>>> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past 
>>> Sunday's trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to 
>>> install on the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think 
>>> will do the trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to 
>>> try, but alas, I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the 
>>> knobby Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike 
>>> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of 
>>> times since then. I really 
>>> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> Vancouver BC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Ryan]

That IS nice. Chris Dekerf builds frames too. Canadian eh! I  remember 
seeing a couple of nice fillet-brazed frames in the late nineties in a shop 
owned by a good friend of mine.

https://www.dekerf.com/ 

Enjoy...sweet bike!

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:48:11 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:

> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might 
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new 
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars 
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender 
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was 
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, 
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell 
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes 
> according to plan! 
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>>
>> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety 
>> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I 
>> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs 
>> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, 
>> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>>
>> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of 
>> mess after every ride.
>>
>> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, 
>>>
>>> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety 
>>> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 
>>> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once 
>>> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the 
>>> wheel removed while loading it into the van. 
>>>
>>> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back 
>>> into place, no harm done.
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Fuller 
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>>>
>>> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
>>> ruinage and full body aches. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which 
>>> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, 
>>> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure 
>>> this avoids the problem entirely.  
>>>
>>> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a 
>>> bit?  Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>>>
>>> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past 
>>> Sunday's trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to 
>>> install on the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think 
>>> will do the trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to 
>>> try, but alas, I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the 
>>> knobby Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike 
>>> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of 
>>> times since then. I really 
>>> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> Vancouver BC
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you ar

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very nice Jason! That model Rivendell is becoming the "classic". Fully lugged, 
details, "standard" chain stays, etc. To boot, it's bombproof and has room for 
wide tires. 
Of course, "classic" is a moving target. Expectations for a frame change over 
time and parts for older bikes get harder to obtain, pushing some older 
"classics" into the realm of "vintage". But unlike carbon, it takes decades for 
that transition.
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


-Original Message-
From: Erik 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Fri, Dec 31, 2021 8:45 pm
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to see 
ride reports once its all built up!

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might be a 
couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 

Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new parts. 
Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars will be 
wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender flaps, and the 
rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was painted by Chris 
Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, addition of Rene Herse tail 
light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell would have charged, and it's also 
up to Joe's level of quality. 

2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes according 
to plan! 






On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:

Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety tabs. 
I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I caught a bit 
of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs released, the wheel 
didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, but I'm still totally 
ready to abandon the combination.

I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of mess 
after every ride.

Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
Adam

On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Jason,
Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety Tabs 
will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 years. 
Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once dropped the 
front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the wheel removed 
while loading it into the van. 
The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into 
place, no harm done.
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Fuller 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender ruinage 
and full body aches. 

On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which tossed 
me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, I haven't 
been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure this avoids the 
problem entirely.  

(No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?  
Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)


On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's trip 
up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on the 
Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think will do the trick - 
kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to try, but alas, I have too 
many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the knobby Ultradynamico for the 
slicker Cava's as well



On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

Jason,
you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike weekly, 
pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of times since 
then. I really 
hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
EricFVancouver BC




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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Erik]

That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to 
see ride reports once its all built up!

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might 
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new 
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars 
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender 
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was 
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, 
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell 
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes 
> according to plan! 
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>>
>> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety 
>> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I 
>> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs 
>> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, 
>> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>>
>> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of 
>> mess after every ride.
>>
>> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, 
>>>
>>> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety 
>>> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 
>>> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once 
>>> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the 
>>> wheel removed while loading it into the van. 
>>>
>>> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back 
>>> into place, no harm done.
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Fuller 
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>>>
>>> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
>>> ruinage and full body aches. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which 
>>> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, 
>>> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure 
>>> this avoids the problem entirely.  
>>>
>>> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a 
>>> bit?  Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>>>
>>> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past 
>>> Sunday's trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to 
>>> install on the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think 
>>> will do the trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to 
>>> try, but alas, I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the 
>>> knobby Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike 
>>> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of 
>>> times since then. I really 
>>> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> Vancouver BC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Adam]

Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.

I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety 
tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I 
caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs 
released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, 
but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.

I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of mess 
after every ride.

Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.

Adam

On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Jason, 
>
> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety 
> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 
> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once 
> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the 
> wheel removed while loading it into the van. 
>
> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into 
> place, no harm done.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Fuller 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>
> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
> ruinage and full body aches. 
>
> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which 
> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, 
> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure 
> this avoids the problem entirely.  
>
> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?  
> Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>
> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's 
> trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on 
> the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think will do the 
> trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to try, but alas, 
> I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the knobby 
> Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>
> Jason,
>
> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike 
> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of 
> times since then. I really 
> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
>
> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
>
> EricF
> Vancouver BC
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jason,
Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety Tabs 
will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 years. 
Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once dropped the 
front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the wheel removed 
while loading it into the van. 
The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into 
place, no harm done.
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Fuller 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender ruinage 
and full body aches. 

On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which tossed 
me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, I haven't 
been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure this avoids the 
problem entirely.  

(No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?  
Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)


On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's trip 
up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on the 
Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think will do the trick - 
kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to try, but alas, I have too 
many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the knobby Ultradynamico for the 
slicker Cava's as well



On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

Jason,
you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike weekly, 
pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of times since 
then. I really 
hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
EricFVancouver BC




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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Eric Floden]

Jason,

you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike weekly,
pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of times
since then. I really
hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.

Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh

EricF
Vancouver BC

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Jason Fuller]

Hahaha, thanks Paul, yeah the weird bars were polarizing as one would
expect - most in the "it's ugly" camp, many in the "if it works, rock it!"
camp (who may or may not be in the first camp), and a few who genuinely
liked the look it seems.

The handlebar I keep eyeing that I think would look cool on the Bombadil is
the Choco-moose, but not being able to adjust angle or reach is pretty
scary!



On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:31 AM Paul Richardson 
wrote:

> i'll just say again that i'm grateful for these posts and
> pictures--they're consistently great and maddeningly fomo-inducing.  and i
> must add i'm glad the bar end / handlebar thing was only a temporary
> experiment!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
> On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:10:39 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Great write up. I really appreciate both the tone and tenor of the
>> retelling and the ride.
>>
>> It makes me want to travel North once again to experience your fantastic
>> route.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe,
>>> and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town
>>> here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of
>>> trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or
>>> hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only
>>> extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as
>>> well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this
>>> region.
>>>
>>> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved
>>> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>>>
>>> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell
>>> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you
>>> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among
>>> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard
>>> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>>>
>>> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a
>>> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km
>>> into the valley and away from the city.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>>>
>>> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with
>>> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel.
>>> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far
>>> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're
>>> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>>>
>>> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people
>>> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life
>>> without full-coverage fenders!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>>>
>>> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was
>>> only about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to
>>> the west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm
>>> now.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>>>
>>> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's
>>> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that
>>> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on
>>> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous,
>>> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>>>
>>> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full
>>> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep
>>> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>>>
>>> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the
>>> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and
>>> lichen covered trees.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>>>
>>> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice
>>> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4
>>> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for
>>> the rest of the evening!
>>>
>>> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Paul Richardson]

i'll just say again that i'm grateful for these posts and pictures--they're 
consistently great and maddeningly fomo-inducing.  and i must add i'm glad 
the bar end / handlebar thing was only a temporary experiment!

paul
takoma park, md.
On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:10:39 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Jason,
>
> Great write up. I really appreciate both the tone and tenor of the 
> retelling and the ride. 
>
> It makes me want to travel North once again to experience your fantastic 
> route.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, 
>> and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town 
>> here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of 
>> trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or 
>> hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only 
>> extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as 
>> well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this 
>> region. 
>>
>> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
>> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>>
>> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
>> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
>> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
>> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
>> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>>
>> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
>> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
>> into the valley and away from the city. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>>
>> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
>> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
>> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
>> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
>> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>>
>> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
>> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
>> without full-coverage fenders! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>>
>> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
>> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
>> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>>
>> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
>> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
>> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
>> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
>> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>>
>> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>>
>> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
>> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
>> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>>
>> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
>> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
>> lichen covered trees. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>>
>> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
>> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
>> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
>> the rest of the evening! 
>>
>> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Hugh Smitham]

Jason,

Great write up. I really appreciate both the tone and tenor of the 
retelling and the ride. 

It makes me want to travel North once again to experience your fantastic 
route.

Hugh

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and 
> today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here 
> in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails 
> on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking 
> trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended 
> stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the 
> only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. 
>
> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>
> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>
> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>
> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>
> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
> into the valley and away from the city. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>
> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>
> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>
> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
> without full-coverage fenders! 
>
> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>
> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>
> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>
> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>
> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>
> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>
> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
> lichen covered trees. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>
> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
> the rest of the evening! 
>
> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice work Jason! I feel like I was there! Your side of the continent looks 
absolutely primordial compared to the Mid-Atlantic!
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:50:58 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and 
> today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here 
> in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails 
> on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking 
> trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended 
> stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the 
> only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. 
>
> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>
> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>
> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>
> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>
> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
> into the valley and away from the city. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>
> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>
> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>
> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
> without full-coverage fenders! 
>
> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>
> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>
> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>
> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>
> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>
> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>
> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
> lichen covered trees. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>
> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
> the rest of the evening! 
>
> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Andrew Stevens]

Amazing amazing photos! Thanks for this!

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:15:04 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Now that's a Rivbike in its proper environment. Nice work, Jason! 
>
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, 
>> and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town 
>> here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of 
>> trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or 
>> hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only 
>> extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as 
>> well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this 
>> region. 
>>
>> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
>> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>>
>> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
>> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
>> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
>> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
>> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>>
>> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
>> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
>> into the valley and away from the city. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>>
>> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
>> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
>> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
>> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
>> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>>
>> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
>> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
>> without full-coverage fenders! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>>
>> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
>> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
>> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>>
>> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
>> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
>> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
>> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
>> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>>
>> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>>
>> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
>> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
>> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>>
>> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
>> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
>> lichen covered trees. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>>
>> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
>> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
>> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
>> the rest of the evening! 
>>
>> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[brendonoid]

Absolutely magical. Thanks for sharing.

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Jason Fuller]

Gosh I'm glad the story has been enjoyable!  It felt a little 
self-indulgent as I wrote it; I just wanted to share this ride with others 
and unfortunately I can only do so virtually right now. 

Robert - we don't get a lot of snowfall at lower elevations here, since 
we're right on the coast. It's the only area of Canada that does not live 
up to people's expectation as a snowy, cold place in winter! We tend to get 
a few good dumps of snow a year, and the temperature will hover either side 
of freezing most of winter. I used to frequent the ski hills but the lines, 
drive etc have become too much to bother so I now just ride year-round! 
Mountain biking here is great even in the snow, as it's usually not too 
deep. 

Joyce - One day! I would be happy to either provide a detailed route plan 
or join for the ride when you do! The 'trial and error' of putting together 
these non-technical routes usually involves having to hike-a-bike on 
unrideable trails, but I can save you that trouble now. Some sections are 
challenging but most is quite leisurely. 

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[JAS]

Thank you for the detail in your ride report and especially for the photos, 
Jason.  I’m a bit south from you (Whidbey Island) and experienced the same 
pre-sunset fog you described yesterday about 4:30pm.  Your non-technical single 
track is my favorite riding conditions on Clem...someday the border will open 
and I’ll head to North Van to try it out!

—Joyce

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Roberta]

A beautiful ride on the most perfect bike. Your words and pictures helped 
me live the adventure vicariously thru you. Thank you for taking the time 
to indulge us. 
On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:50:58 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and 
> today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here 
> in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails 
> on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking 
> trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended 
> stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the 
> only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. 
>
> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>
> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>
> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>
> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>
> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
> into the valley and away from the city. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>
> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>
> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>
> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
> without full-coverage fenders! 
>
> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>
> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>
> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>
> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>
> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>
> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>
> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
> lichen covered trees. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>
> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
> the rest of the evening! 
>
> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Robert Hakim]

Wow, that route looks spectacular! It seems like you caught it on a 
spectacular day as well! 

Does that area get much snowfall or can you ride there year round?

Cheers!
Robert
On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 10:15:04 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Now that's a Rivbike in its proper environment. Nice work, Jason! 
>
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, 
>> and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town 
>> here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of 
>> trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or 
>> hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only 
>> extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as 
>> well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this 
>> region. 
>>
>> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
>> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>>
>> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
>> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
>> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
>> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
>> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>>
>> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
>> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
>> into the valley and away from the city. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>>
>> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
>> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
>> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
>> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
>> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>>
>> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
>> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
>> without full-coverage fenders! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>>
>> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
>> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
>> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>>
>> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
>> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
>> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
>> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
>> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>>
>> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>>
>> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
>> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
>> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>>
>> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
>> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
>> lichen covered trees. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>>
>> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
>> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
>> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
>> the rest of the evening! 
>>
>> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Joe Bernard]

Now that's a Rivbike in its proper environment. Nice work, Jason! 


On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and 
> today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here 
> in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails 
> on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking 
> trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended 
> stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the 
> only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. 
>
> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>
> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>
> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>
> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>
> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
> into the valley and away from the city. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>
> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>
> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>
> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
> without full-coverage fenders! 
>
> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>
> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>
> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>
> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>
> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>
> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>
> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
> lichen covered trees. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>
> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
> the rest of the evening! 
>
> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>
>

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