[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Ditto to both William's and Bernard's comments! How hard would it be at some point in the future to swap-out the cassettes to fit the needs of a particular ride/event. I personally wouldn't have a need for an 11T cog, but I'm using 110/74 style cranksets and generally 8 speed clusters. On Jan 27, 2:35 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. The build kit is for the guy/gal who wants a nice complete bike from Rivendell. Once you're specing specifics like the cassette, you're out of the just put one together for me game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Swapping cassettes is quite easy. There's a lock ring that holds the cassette on the hub and you just need a tool that Riv sells. Dave says (above)all the kits are 9 speed but 8/9/10 all fit the same hub so if you have 8s cassettes you like they'd pop right on. Not sure about chain compatibility between 8 9 though. My stuff is all 8s but I've used 7s 9s cogs within home grown cassettes that work fine, even index. dougP On Feb 5, 11:39 am, kwhiner kevin.b...@gmail.com wrote: Ditto to both William's and Bernard's comments! How hard would it be at some point in the future to swap-out the cassettes to fit the needs of a particular ride/event. I personally wouldn't have a need for an 11T cog, but I'm using 110/74 style cranksets and generally 8 speed clusters. On Jan 27, 2:35 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. The build kit is for the guy/gal who wants a nice complete bike from Rivendell. Once you're specing specifics like the cassette, you're out of the just put one together for me game.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
If this had been available in the summer I would have probably done it. Since it wasn't, I spent a lot of time working with an excellent LBS to spec my Sam - mostly because Riv was a lot more $ for the same stuff. This way would have come out about the same price, less effort and probably a few smarter decisions on parts. Maybe for the next one. Jay On Jan 27, 7:20 am, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26, 12:08 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit with should be $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can see everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
It still doesn't make sense to me. Albas $60 + grips $24 + tiagra levers $55 = $139 Noodles $81 + shimano levers $33 = $114 Everything else looks the same. I'm just asking out of curiousity and because I happened to notice. I'm quite happy with the pick it yourself build home brew build kit on my Sam. If these kits were available when I build mine this probably would have driven me nuts, since I wanted the Noodles. As it is I think I may have been better off with Albas, but that's another story. Jay On Feb 3, 8:43 pm, Dave Rivbike d...@rivbike.com wrote: the 8sp was a typo. all kits are 9. noodles and tiagra brake levers cost more than the alba/mtb levers On Feb 2, 8:25 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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We're comparing our prices, not their costs; different items might have lesser margins than others... Might be, the Noodle sets are inline w/ where they should be, and they can discount the Albatross sets more... I don't know, just guessing. I'm not worrying about it, I tend to pick other stuff myself, but see these as great ways to simplify a build for the majority of customers... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YSYRB90aiX0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
the 8sp was a typo. all kits are 9. noodles and tiagra brake levers cost more than the alba/mtb levers On Feb 2, 8:25 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IIuj11fd5FUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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The regular Noodles are more than the regular Albas; then the 46 and 48 are heat-treated Noodles and have an additional upcharge more. The brakes change out, the levers change out, the tires change out; those are the things that caught my eye toggling between them. I've not gone through and tallyed up each variant, but... it could be, the higher price packages is closer to the normal pricing (but w/ the $100 savings), and then they managed to get enough of some things in the other package to cut the price another hundred, and passed those along, too... (don't know, just guessing...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HlbZzmQ4KXsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? On Jan 26, 11:14 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: +1 That 36 is a great gear. Makes me more inclined to ride instead of drive. On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:20 PM, dougP wrote: John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26, 12:08 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
I often read that the 11t is useless, but of course, that depends on your chainrings. With a modern mountain triple or mountain double, the biggest ring is 39, 42, or 44t. I'm setting up my Goodrich with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10sp cassette. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A9BGPLNGAhMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
I agree with Jim. Anything higher than a 4-to-1 is useless to me, to be sure, and even a 4-to-1 is only useful when I am in a major hurry on descents and insist on pedaling beyond 35mph. On one bike which has a 50/34 up front, the 12 cog on a 12-27 cassette is useless, but on another bike that has a 44/30 up front, the 11 cog on an 11-26 cassette is nice to have sometimes. On the uber-low-end, I think a 24 in front and a 32 in back (which is the lowest gear in the standard kit) is plenty low for everything but ultra loaded touring (in the very low 20s in gear inches). So spec-ing an 11-32 on a 'make it simple' build kit for an alba-bar-Rivendell is not a horrible decision at all. The person who knows they need gear inches in the teens is probably not getting the standard kit anyhow. That's my opinion, anyhow. I seriously doubt many of the buyers of that standard kit will be dissatisfied that their bike wasn't geared low enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d8q-MCHQc9sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Agreed. The build kit is for the guy/gal who wants a nice complete bike from Rivendell. Once you're specing specifics like the cassette, you're out of the just put one together for me game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/w61pfIQCSN8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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As somebody who's worked with customers on builds, MOST people don't have super specific preferences - they just want a configuration that will work and have an overall aesthetic, possibly with a few minor personal touches. The advantage of having a kit is that it shortens the phone conversations considerably. When I do this, at least with some customers, I often feel like I have to sell them on every little part. Me: I suggest the SRAM chain. Customer: Would I be better off with a Shimano chain? Me: Well, Shimano is fine, but we usually use SRAM. Customer: Oh, well, I've always used Shimano. Me: I will be happy to use a Shimano, if that's your preference, but SRAM has that cool master link, so we like it. Customer: Jeez, now I'm torn. Obviously, some, even most, are calling me because they like the bikes I have built in the past, and are happy to trust my knowledge on their own bike build. But the indecisive micro-manager type above absorbs a huge amount of time, and all too often, can't pull the trigger when it's time to give me a credit card number. The kit approach may not satisfy the micro-manager, but it at least gives him a foundation of info to consider before he picks up the phone. With the posted kit, the customer can call the order in and say, listen, this kit looks good and I can easily see the price, but I REALLY need the 12-36 cassette, and can I upgrade to indexed shifters? I can't say for sure, because I don't work there, but I'm guessing Riv is willing to make small, simple substitutions like that (with appropriate upcharge, if needed), as long as they don't cascade into a major revision of the kit. Sometimes, a single substitution is not as simple as it sounds. That guy who is awfully fond of STI (there must be a script for how to say these things) and Phil Wood freewheel hubs is probably in for a disappointment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XtzmadLvZaIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Just so's y'all know, Miche makes outer Shimano compatible cogs in teeth up to 16. Switch out that pissant 11 for a manly 16 t outer. I use 15 and 16 t outers on the Fargo wheelsets -- 15 for the skinny 40 mm tires and 16 for the fatties. Of course, even these serve mostly as spacers for even bigger cogs: the 67 cruising gear on the Big Apple wheelset is the 46/20. Patrick that's how I can climb all those hills in the big ring Moore On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I often read that the 11t is useless, but of course, that depends on your chainrings. With a modern mountain triple or mountain double, the biggest ring is 39, 42, or 44t. I'm setting up my Goodrich with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10sp cassette. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A9BGPLNGAhMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Build kits!
One more comment, tangential: I just resurrected the Big Apple wheelset today and did a windy out and back. I am very pleased with the superbe rolling qualities of the two Schwalbe models I've used, 559X1.35 Kojaks and the 60 mm Big Apples. After riding the Fargo with Ritchy semi-cross tires for months -- very light tread on the surface -- the BAs just rolled superbly. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just so's y'all know, Miche makes outer Shimano compatible cogs in teeth up to 16. Switch out that pissant 11 for a manly 16 t outer. I use 15 and 16 t outers on the Fargo wheelsets -- 15 for the skinny 40 mm tires and 16 for the fatties. Of course, even these serve mostly as spacers for even bigger cogs: the 67 cruising gear on the Big Apple wheelset is the 46/20. Patrick that's how I can climb all those hills in the big ring Moore On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I often read that the 11t is useless, but of course, that depends on your chainrings. With a modern mountain triple or mountain double, the biggest ring is 39, 42, or 44t. I'm setting up my Goodrich with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10sp cassette. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A9BGPLNGAhMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
The build kits seem to be a logical extension of the typical build sheets listed with some models. It's easy for customers to know the exact cost, and IF it saves RBW some time there's a discount in it too. I think after one or two substitutions it might become a typical custom build anyway, though Riv has skwdys been ultra reasonable and may be reluctant to bump people out of the package deal. I hope this strategy expands their market a bit. Certainly all of us here on the forum want to pick everything down to the ferrules, but many people don't, and may have been put off by the too-many-options approach in the past. Maybe Riv should build up their last few SimpleOne frames as complete bikes and see if that helps their appeal. I'd be curious to know how many bikes Surly sells complete vs frame-only? Pete SingleSixtySidepullSam...and QB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QJlaCv6cXuMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Useless was the wrong term; should have said ...more use out of a 36 large than an 11 small Since the kit includes Riv's standard Sugino crank with 46t big ring, even the 12 is sorta downhill-with-a- tailwind or getting chased by a big dog type of gearing. I also recall something on the Riv site about them liking the 12-36 because you could stay in your middle ring a bit longer. Anyway, it is a bit of hair splitting when you're talking about a kit system meant to simplify the parts spec'ing. Heaven knows Rivendell's spec'd parts a lot more real world useful than a lot of the stuff from the mega factories. dougP On Jan 27, 12:57 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I often read that the 11t is useless, but of course, that depends on your chainrings. With a modern mountain triple or mountain double, the biggest ring is 39, 42, or 44t. I'm setting up my Goodrich with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10sp cassette. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Re: surly completes vs frames When Surly gets a batch of bikes and frames in, typically they have MANY more bikes than frames on-hand. I don't have exact numbers, but I think it's not far off to say they stock 5x as many completes as frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-F4ym2LEUlAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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It's a great strategy to streamline the bike selling process. It saves the Riv-person some time, and it saves the customer a ton of anxiety if they don't come into the transaction with a bunch of preconceptions. Clearly this won't be the choice of somebody who has really specific ideas about exactly what they want, or of cheap bastard parts hoarders that do their own builds (william looks in mirror). When I've sent acquaintances to Riv, I've always told them 'trust the people, they won't steer you wrong'. Now, I can tell them to trust the build kit, and trust the people. With this, it's possible somebody could walk in, having never looked at the website, ride a couple bikes, make a choice and completely spec their build in under an hour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hnxZYSoDYtYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I like this. Being a stubborn, self-doer of sorts, I dislike not working on my own bike. I believe that we are all makers of our own destiny and we should be have some physical aspect of building or maintaining our own bikes. That way if something breaks or falls off you know it's your fault. On Jan 26, 1:17 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's a great strategy to streamline the bike selling process. It saves the Riv-person some time, and it saves the customer a ton of anxiety if they don't come into the transaction with a bunch of preconceptions. Clearly this won't be the choice of somebody who has really specific ideas about exactly what they want, or of cheap bastard parts hoarders that do their own builds (william looks in mirror). When I've sent acquaintances to Riv, I've always told them 'trust the people, they won't steer you wrong'. Now, I can tell them to trust the build kit, and trust the people. With this, it's possible somebody could walk in, having never looked at the website, ride a couple bikes, make a choice and completely spec their build in under an hour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26, 12:08 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Build kits!
+1 That 36 is a great gear. Makes me more inclined to ride instead of drive. On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:20 PM, dougP wrote: John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26, 12:08 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo
I wonder how many frames vs complete bikes they'll sell? I imagine a fair %age of buyers will want to build the Roadie up to their own spec. I think I'd probably do Dura Ace 7800 as there are some nice bargains on it now. On Sep 26, 10:30 am, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe that is still undecided. From the pics on their site, the prototype had SRAM Force on it. I believe the write-up on the Riv site indicates that the final build details are going to be left up to Mark. Joe Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:44:15 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo From: clive.stand...@umassmed.edu To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I don't want to take up any of Riv's time as I'm not going to buy a Roadie, I was just interested in the parts selection. From the latest pictures the economy version has a Sugino XD2 and I imagine the rest of the parts are from the Riv catalogue too. I was just interested in the racer spec parts they are using. Will it be Dura Ace 10 sp On Sep 25, 2:25 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Does anyone have an idea of the parts used to build the comfy vs light versions of the Roadeo. Just wondering what you get for your money Email riv and ask - they are ridiculously quick to respond and incredibly helpful with answers. -sv _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®.http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo
I believe that is still undecided. From the pics on their site, the prototype had SRAM Force on it. I believe the write-up on the Riv site indicates that the final build details are going to be left up to Mark. Joe Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:44:15 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo From: clive.stand...@umassmed.edu To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I don't want to take up any of Riv's time as I'm not going to buy a Roadie, I was just interested in the parts selection. From the latest pictures the economy version has a Sugino XD2 and I imagine the rest of the parts are from the Riv catalogue too. I was just interested in the racer spec parts they are using. Will it be Dura Ace 10 sp On Sep 25, 2:25 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Does anyone have an idea of the parts used to build the comfy vs light versions of the Roadeo. Just wondering what you get for your money Email riv and ask - they are ridiculously quick to respond and incredibly helpful with answers. -sv _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Does anyone have an idea of the parts used to build the comfy vs light versions of the Roadeo. Just wondering what you get for your money Email riv and ask - they are ridiculously quick to respond and incredibly helpful with answers. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo
I don't want to take up any of Riv's time as I'm not going to buy a Roadie, I was just interested in the parts selection. From the latest pictures the economy version has a Sugino XD2 and I imagine the rest of the parts are from the Riv catalogue too. I was just interested in the racer spec parts they are using. Will it be Dura Ace 10 sp On Sep 25, 2:25 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Does anyone have an idea of the parts used to build the comfy vs light versions of the Roadeo. Just wondering what you get for your money Email riv and ask - they are ridiculously quick to respond and incredibly helpful with answers. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo
The groupo on Mark's prototype looks like 2010 SRAM Force. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
