[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
P1/T1=P2/T2 Gay Lussac's law so if P1 is 120psi and T1 is 75F and T2 is 125F P2 is 200 psi In my world, southern Arizona this would not be an impossible swing. Starting at 50 psi with the same temperatures you'd end up at 83.33F Asa On Saturday, August 2, 2014 10:48:03 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: Related, since you are dirving: LBS employee said leaving your bike in a hot car with windows up can blow your tire or tubes. He said at events people in the crowd would applaud when they would hear a bang come from a car with a bike in it. So don't leave your windows up with the bike inside if its hot out unless you air down. Maybe this only matters for 120psi type tires and not rivish 50 psi tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
I'm not sure taking a bike to outer space would be such a good idea. There's nothing to ride on up there. On Saturday, August 2, 2014 1:23:03 AM UTC-4, Metin Uz wrote: Agreed. You can even take a bike to outer space and its tires won't explode (at least if you keep it at reasonable temperatures). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Related, since you are dirving: LBS employee said leaving your bike in a hot car with windows up can blow your tire or tubes. He said at events people in the crowd would applaud when they would hear a bang come from a car with a bike in it. So don't leave your windows up with the bike inside if its hot out unless you air down. Maybe this only matters for 120psi type tires and not rivish 50 psi tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f-adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Ron You post the right chart but are interpreting it incorrectly. At sea level atmospheric pressure is ~15psi, and at 7000 ft it's ~11psi. His tire pressure will increase by that same 4 psi. When you measure tire pressure you measure the difference between the pressure inside the tire and the difference outside the tire. A 40 psi taken into the vacuum of outer space would then measure 55psi. 55psi absolute pressure inside the tire. Your potato chips bag bulges but it's still a really low pressure. Probably less than 1psi. On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f-adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Tires are built to withstand twice the rated maximum pressure. You won't get anywhere near that from a 7,000-ft ascent. On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:30:27 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: The next couple of days I will be driving from my home around 500 ft altitude to over 7000 ft before returning to near sea level. I remember seeing yogurt containers in Santa Fe that were actually bulging and it got me thinking that the same thing could happen with bike tires if you departed lower elevation with near max pressure. So i was thinking of airing my LoupLoups down to 40psi or so for the trip. Or is it unnecessary? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
of course Bill. On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:57:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Ron You post the right chart but are interpreting it incorrectly. At sea level atmospheric pressure is ~15psi, and at 7000 ft it's ~11psi. His tire pressure will increase by that same 4 psi. When you measure tire pressure you measure the difference between the pressure inside the tire and the difference outside the tire. A 40 psi taken into the vacuum of outer space would then measure 55psi. 55psi absolute pressure inside the tire. Your potato chips bag bulges but it's still a really low pressure. Probably less than 1psi. On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f-adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
No, no, no, and you don't need to deflate them when you put your bike in an unpressurized airplane cargo hold either. Steve says, you don't need to do it but would it hurt? Well, yeah, it could. Your pressurized tire nicely protects your rim. Your flat tire doesn't. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: of course Bill. On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:57:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Ron You post the right chart but are interpreting it incorrectly. At sea level atmospheric pressure is ~15psi, and at 7000 ft it's ~11psi. His tire pressure will increase by that same 4 psi. When you measure tire pressure you measure the difference between the pressure inside the tire and the difference outside the tire. A 40 psi taken into the vacuum of outer space would then measure 55psi. 55psi absolute pressure inside the tire. Your potato chips bag bulges but it's still a really low pressure. Probably less than 1psi. On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f- adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
I wouldn't let all the air out, just some. It's inconvenient to roll bikes around if the tires are flat. On Aug 1, 2014 12:19 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: No, no, no, and you don't need to deflate them when you put your bike in an unpressurized airplane cargo hold either. Steve says, you don't need to do it but would it hurt? Well, yeah, it could. Your pressurized tire nicely protects your rim. Your flat tire doesn't. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: of course Bill. On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:57:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Ron You post the right chart but are interpreting it incorrectly. At sea level atmospheric pressure is ~15psi, and at 7000 ft it's ~11psi. His tire pressure will increase by that same 4 psi. When you measure tire pressure you measure the difference between the pressure inside the tire and the difference outside the tire. A 40 psi taken into the vacuum of outer space would then measure 55psi. 55psi absolute pressure inside the tire. Your potato chips bag bulges but it's still a really low pressure. Probably less than 1psi. On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f- adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
On Friday, August 1, 2014 5:42:04 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: from sea level to 7000', you'll get a 20% increase in tire pressure That's true, only if you start with 0psi in your tires. The ambient pressure has dropped, but this does not proportionally increase the tire pressure, it simply adds a few psi to the pressure. It's easy to conduct a thought experiment to verify this. Imagine a tire taken to space (or vacuum environment). The pressure goes up by 14.7psi, which is the original ambient pressure no longer counteracting the pressure from the air in the tires. If the pressure were to be scaled, it would increase by an infinite ratio! --Metin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
If your tire is going to explode if its pressure increases by 5 psi, you should not deflate it when you go to altitude. Rather, you should get a new tire at once, because you are riding on a dangerous tire. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't let all the air out, just some. It's inconvenient to roll bikes around if the tires are flat. On Aug 1, 2014 12:19 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: No, no, no, and you don't need to deflate them when you put your bike in an unpressurized airplane cargo hold either. Steve says, you don't need to do it but would it hurt? Well, yeah, it could. Your pressurized tire nicely protects your rim. Your flat tire doesn't. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: of course Bill. On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:57:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Ron You post the right chart but are interpreting it incorrectly. At sea level atmospheric pressure is ~15psi, and at 7000 ft it's ~11psi. His tire pressure will increase by that same 4 psi. When you measure tire pressure you measure the difference between the pressure inside the tire and the difference outside the tire. A 40 psi taken into the vacuum of outer space would then measure 55psi. 55psi absolute pressure inside the tire. Your potato chips bag bulges but it's still a really low pressure. Probably less than 1psi. On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f- adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Mad's 1000 snappy answers? On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:35:43 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: If your tire is going to explode if its pressure increases by 5 psi, you should not deflate it when you go to altitude. Rather, you should get a new tire at once, because you are riding on a dangerous tire. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I wouldn't let all the air out, just some. It's inconvenient to roll bikes around if the tires are flat. On Aug 1, 2014 12:19 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: No, no, no, and you don't need to deflate them when you put your bike in an unpressurized airplane cargo hold either. Steve says, you don't need to do it but would it hurt? Well, yeah, it could. Your pressurized tire nicely protects your rim. Your flat tire doesn't. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: of course Bill. On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:57:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Ron You post the right chart but are interpreting it incorrectly. At sea level atmospheric pressure is ~15psi, and at 7000 ft it's ~11psi. His tire pressure will increase by that same 4 psi. When you measure tire pressure you measure the difference between the pressure inside the tire and the difference outside the tire. A 40 psi taken into the vacuum of outer space would then measure 55psi. 55psi absolute pressure inside the tire. Your potato chips bag bulges but it's still a really low pressure. Probably less than 1psi. On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: here's the chart - Kg/cm2 is close enough to atmospheres https://www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f- adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:19:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My tires are at 40psi max anyway, so I don't worry about it going from 8k where I live to 13k on some passes. Based on Ron's numbers, if you keep your's at 60psi usually you'd endue at 72psi, so no big deal. If you're concerned about it, you've naught to lose by dropping them down. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Professional race team support vehicles carry loads of spare wheels, fully inflated ready to ride, up to significant altitudes, often multiple times during the day, with no concern about exploding tires. My guess is these tires are a good deal lighter in construction than a typical touring tire. I've seen that with food beverage containers. Always point them away from yourself when opening to avoid splatters. Even happens on pressurized airplanes. dougP On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:30:27 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: The next couple of days I will be driving from my home around 500 ft altitude to over 7000 ft before returning to near sea level. I remember seeing yogurt containers in Santa Fe that were actually bulging and it got me thinking that the same thing could happen with bike tires if you departed lower elevation with near max pressure. So i was thinking of airing my LoupLoups down to 40psi or so for the trip. Or is it unnecessary? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures and natural bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of yogurt at any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to mention a host of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
No, yogurt containers bulge and water bottles do too. They are at 0 psi when they are sealed, so the change in ambient pressure results in a large percentage change. Not so for a tire already under pressure. --Metin On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures and natural bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of yogurt at any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to mention a host of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Pedant here. They are *not* at 0psi. They are at ambient air pressure. :) On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Metin Uz uz.me...@gmail.com wrote: No, yogurt containers bulge and water bottles do too. They are at 0 psi when they are sealed, so the change in ambient pressure results in a large percentage change. Not so for a tire already under pressure. --Metin On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures and natural bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of yogurt at any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to mention a host of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
How do you account for the bulging of *some* yogurt containers and milk cartons low elevations like 600 ft. ? On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:17:37 PM UTC-4, Metin Uz wrote: No, yogurt containers bulge and water bottles do too. They are at 0 psi when they are sealed, so the change in ambient pressure results in a large percentage change. Not so for a tire already under pressure. --Metin On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures and natural bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of yogurt at any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to mention a host of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
I have *ridden* from 0 to 7000 feet quite a few times, without doing anything to my tires. So have lots of other people on this list. Our tires didn't explode off the rims. Riding up mountains on one's bike is not a rare occurrence, and tires don't explode when you get to the top. This is not a real problem. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Microbial dance party! On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: How do you account for the bulging of *some* yogurt containers and milk cartons low elevations like 600 ft. ? On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:17:37 PM UTC-4, Metin Uz wrote: No, yogurt containers bulge and water bottles do too. They are at 0 psi when they are sealed, so the change in ambient pressure results in a large percentage change. Not so for a tire already under pressure. --Metin On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures and natural bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of yogurt at any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to mention a host of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
Agreed. You can even take a bike to outer space and its tires won't explode (at least if you keep it at reasonable temperatures). --Metin On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:58:25 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I have *ridden* from 0 to 7000 feet quite a few times, without doing anything to my tires. So have lots of other people on this list. Our tires didn't explode off the rims. Riding up mountains on one's bike is not a rare occurrence, and tires don't explode when you get to the top. This is not a real problem. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org javascript: wrote: Microbial dance party! On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: How do you account for the bulging of *some* yogurt containers and milk cartons low elevations like 600 ft. ? On Friday, August 1, 2014 8:17:37 PM UTC-4, Metin Uz wrote: No, yogurt containers bulge and water bottles do too. They are at 0 psi when they are sealed, so the change in ambient pressure results in a large percentage change. Not so for a tire already under pressure. --Metin On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures and natural bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of yogurt at any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to mention a host of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
