[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[dougP]

Can you use the upper eyelet of the fork?  Is there enough clearance in the 
slot at the upper mount to move everything up a bit?  

Great looking build.  Now to get it out & get it dirty!

dougP

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 7:21:54 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> How it looks with the Albatross bars. More photos when the Nitto Dynamic 
> II/MAP/Ahearne bar cockpit arrives this week.
>
> Tight clearance at the top of the tire!
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/27971395971/in/album-72157670443840716/
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>>
>> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will 
>> involve as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee 
>> lowrider rack - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with 
>> either? I've used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>>
>>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
>> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag 
>> does the trick.
>>
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[James Warren]

Are you riding it?

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> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Esteban  wrote:
> 
> How it looks with the Albatross bars. More photos when the Nitto Dynamic 
> II/MAP/Ahearne bar cockpit arrives this week.
> 
> Tight clearance at the top of the tire!
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/27971395971/in/album-72157670443840716/
> 
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
> 
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will involve 
>> as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee lowrider rack 
>> - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with either? I've 
>> used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>> 
>>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
>> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag does 
>> the trick.
>> 
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[James Warren]

Awesome!

But that handlebar looks dangerously low.

The blue tape pops.

The tires make me want to ride after a weeklong hiatus.


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> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Esteban  wrote:
> 
> How it looks with the Albatross bars. More photos when the Nitto Dynamic 
> II/MAP/Ahearne bar cockpit arrives this week.
> 
> Tight clearance at the top of the tire!
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/27971395971/in/album-72157670443840716/
> 
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
> 
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will involve 
>> as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee lowrider rack 
>> - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with either? I've 
>> used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>> 
>>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
>> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag does 
>> the trick.
>> 
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
> 
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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Esteban]

How it looks with the Albatross bars. More photos when the Nitto Dynamic 
II/MAP/Ahearne bar cockpit arrives this week.

Tight clearance at the top of the tire!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/27971395971/in/album-72157670443840716/

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will involve 
> as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee lowrider 
> rack - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with either? 
> I've used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>
>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag 
> does the trick.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Esteban]

Mock-up with Quickbeam's Dyanmic II/Jitensha bar:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHSyqaNh40Z/?taken-by=veloflaneur

I'll go with a Dynamic II and 610mm MAP/Ahearne bar with the Nitto Campee 
front rack. Albatross still ready for a swap-in... but I thought I'd try a 
flat-bar hand position to start with.

Now, the question is mounting the rack: I could go for lower eyelet to get 
the rack nice and tucked in, but it leaves very little clearance over the 
top of the tire - or dork it out to the upper eyelets and have plenty of 
clearance. The Post-War Re-enactor in me wants to keep it close. The hobo 
in me wants it to reach new heights...

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:44:55 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> Speaking of duh - goodness, I should have had some coffee before writing 
> this post considering my poor grammar. Front it will be! And I'll save 
> weight by not adding the front mini rack, as weight savings is my goal.
>
> Esteban
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:00:27 PM UTC-7, oldmangabe wrote:
>>
>> Front, duh. 
>>
>> I've come to appreciate the challenge of riding narrow brushy/snowy 
>> single track with lowriders. So far the ass-over-teakettle moments have 
>> been fun. Plus the extra weight pretty much assures you keeping the front 
>> wheel planted on loose turns or steep climbs.  
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will 
>>> involve as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee 
>>> lowrider rack - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with 
>>> either? I've used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>>>
>>>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me 
>>> on this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag 
>>> does the trick.
>>>
>>> Esteban
>>> San Diego, Calif.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Esteban]

Speaking of duh - goodness, I should have had some coffee before writing 
this post considering my poor grammar. Front it will be! And I'll save 
weight by not adding the front mini rack, as weight savings is my goal.

Esteban

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:00:27 PM UTC-7, oldmangabe wrote:
>
> Front, duh. 
>
> I've come to appreciate the challenge of riding narrow brushy/snowy single 
> track with lowriders. So far the ass-over-teakettle moments have been fun. 
> Plus the extra weight pretty much assures you keeping the front wheel 
> planted on loose turns or steep climbs.  
>
> Gabe
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>>
>> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will 
>> involve as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee 
>> lowrider rack - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with 
>> either? I've used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>>
>>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
>> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag 
>> does the trick.
>>
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Deacon Patrick]

I have yet to have difficulty getting through anywhere on singletrack 
because of my panniers, and I've never understood the "problem" except as 
one created by frame back marketers. The reality is my legs and feet are 
wider and lower than my rear bags, so if my front frame and carcass make it 
through, my bags are too. I am thankful for the stunningly hearty Scottish 
canvas of Sackville bags, as they handle all the branches and rock 
scrapping really well. Only the mud shows. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:16:20 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Please define dirt. If there is a lot of singletrack involved then low 
> flying bags can be a problem in some high density underbrush regions. But 
> if it's mostly double track and dirt road riding then they work great. 

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[oldmangabe]

Front, duh. 

I've come to appreciate the challenge of riding narrow brushy/snowy single 
track with lowriders. So far the ass-over-teakettle moments have been fun. 
Plus the extra weight pretty much assures you keeping the front wheel 
planted on loose turns or steep climbs.  

Gabe

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:24:16 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will involve 
> as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee lowrider 
> rack - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with either? 
> I've used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>
>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag 
> does the trick.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm with Mark, but only by instinct and inclination.  Mark has the 
experience to back it up.  My new dirt touring build has a Nitto Mt Campee 
front only.  No rear rack at all.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 12:24:07 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Front!!
>
> I did the Oregon Outback, a trans-Washington tour, and dozens of weekend 
> s24o's and winter camping trips with my Atlantis and Nitto Campee front 
> rack with Ortlieb Roller Plus panniers and a Wald basket (or Swift Ozette 
> bag). Works wonderfully. It just handles so well. Sometimes I'd have a 
> Carradice Camper saddlebag on the back as well if I needed some extra cargo 
> room.
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:16:20 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Please define dirt. If there is a lot of singletrack involved then low 
>> flying bags can be a problem in some high density underbrush regions. But 
>> if it's mostly double track and dirt road riding then they work great. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Deacon Patrick]

I pack my truckSack with my food on the front mini-rack, the rest on the 
back. Works perfectly for me (too much weight up front drives me batty, not 
than I need help getting there!). However, from others' experiences, you 
can't go too wrong in general, and you'll learn best what works for you 
from experience. Of course, my way is the right and best way. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 8:24:16 AM UTC-6, Esteban wrote:
>
> I'm building up my Hunqua and planning some bike camping that will involve 
> as much dirt as possible. I have a front and rear Nitto Campee lowrider 
> rack - can anyone chime in from experience about impressions with either? 
> I've used both, but not on dirt and not on a Hunqua or Fatlantis...
>
>  This is under-bikepacking, hobo-style camping, so no framebags for me on 
> this rig. I do pack rather light, though - two panniers and a rando bag 
> does the trick.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Mark Reimer]

I should have added, all the trips I mentioned were off road. Some were 
just on dirt and gravel roads, some on grassy double track, some on rooty 
single track. It was great all the time

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:24:07 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Front!!
>
> I did the Oregon Outback, a trans-Washington tour, and dozens of weekend 
> s24o's and winter camping trips with my Atlantis and Nitto Campee front 
> rack with Ortlieb Roller Plus panniers and a Wald basket (or Swift Ozette 
> bag). Works wonderfully. It just handles so well. Sometimes I'd have a 
> Carradice Camper saddlebag on the back as well if I needed some extra cargo 
> room.
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:16:20 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Please define dirt. If there is a lot of singletrack involved then low 
>> flying bags can be a problem in some high density underbrush regions. But 
>> if it's mostly double track and dirt road riding then they work great. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Touring with Nitto Campee Lowriders - Front or back?

[Mark Reimer]

Front!!

I did the Oregon Outback, a trans-Washington tour, and dozens of weekend 
s24o's and winter camping trips with my Atlantis and Nitto Campee front 
rack with Ortlieb Roller Plus panniers and a Wald basket (or Swift Ozette 
bag). Works wonderfully. It just handles so well. Sometimes I'd have a 
Carradice Camper saddlebag on the back as well if I needed some extra cargo 
room.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:16:20 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Please define dirt. If there is a lot of singletrack involved then low 
> flying bags can be a problem in some high density underbrush regions. But 
> if it's mostly double track and dirt road riding then they work great. 

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