[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
After a year, it's time to make that shift window bigger for the two rings 
I use the most. Now I just need my brain to be doing well enough to try 
these great suggestions!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:

 Relax.  If it shifts and the chain doesn't rub ... Just Ride!

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-22 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Relax.  If it shifts and the chain doesn't rub ... Just Ride!

Matt

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 6:10:30 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Ha! No worries about my self worth, Michael, though I appreciate your 
 ministerial wisdom! My self worth comes from God, I know it's there, and 
 there's naught I can do about it. Just droll Scottish humor. Grin. At the 
 moment the derailer is smarter than me. It won't be in the end, even if it 
 means I yank it off the bloody bike! Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 4:39:42 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Deacon, you don't say so, but it sounds like you are working with BE 
 friction shifters.  The first thing is to take up any excess slack in the 
 cable.   Relax the derailler spring tension, pull the cable tight and then 
 retighten the cable clamp.  Stay calm and think of it like a game puzzle.

 In the mean time, stop putting yourself down.  I've read many of your 
 post and know that most of us can't do much of what you do.  You are a 
 beautiful person.

 Michael


 On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:58:53 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies 
 category? Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-21 Thread Chris Chen
Bravo, Michael. Bravo.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Deacon, you don't say so, but it sounds like you are working with BE
 friction shifters.  The first thing is to take up any excess slack in the
 cable.   Relax the derailler spring tension, pull the cable tight and then
 retighten the cable clamp.  Stay calm and think of it like a game puzzle.

 In the mean time, stop putting yourself down.  I've read many of your post
 and know that most of us can't do much of what you do.  You are a beautiful
 person.

 Michael


 On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:58:53 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100%
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category?
 Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-21 Thread Michael Hechmer
Deacon, you don't say so, but it sounds like you are working with BE 
friction shifters.  The first thing is to take up any excess slack in the 
cable.   Relax the derailler spring tension, pull the cable tight and then 
retighten the cable clamp.  Stay calm and think of it like a game puzzle.

In the mean time, stop putting yourself down.  I've read many of your post 
and know that most of us can't do much of what you do.  You are a beautiful 
person.

Michael


On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:58:53 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? 
 Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! No worries about my self worth, Michael, though I appreciate your 
ministerial wisdom! My self worth comes from God, I know it's there, and 
there's naught I can do about it. Just droll Scottish humor. Grin. At the 
moment the derailer is smarter than me. It won't be in the end, even if it 
means I yank it off the bloody bike! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 4:39:42 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Deacon, you don't say so, but it sounds like you are working with BE 
 friction shifters.  The first thing is to take up any excess slack in the 
 cable.   Relax the derailler spring tension, pull the cable tight and then 
 retighten the cable clamp.  Stay calm and think of it like a game puzzle.

 In the mean time, stop putting yourself down.  I've read many of your post 
 and know that most of us can't do much of what you do.  You are a beautiful 
 person.

 Michael


 On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:58:53 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? 
 Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
If the other suggestions don't work, I'd measure the chain line to see if 
you're in tolerance.

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:58:53 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? 
 Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-21 Thread Goshen Peter
as someone who has less and less time I might offer a piece of advice:
bring it to your fine local LBS and support your local businesses. They
probably sort out issues like this all day and will have it all tuned in an
hour or so, and at least with my lbs I do a test ride on all work and they
will tweak as I need. Just my 2cents, back to working too much.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Geoffrey ring...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, I'd start put it in the smallest chainring, release all tension on
 the adjuster nut and start from scratch.  This way you can at least check
 the limit screw.  Then pull the cable with your hand all the way to the big
 ring and set that limit screw.  Then you can start to add tension to the
 cable itself.  When you're chain line is off, your front derailleur won't
 work nicely, that's what I'd check next.  From the middle chain ring to the
 center of your seat tube, you should be around 45mm.


 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 6:42:15 AM UTC-6, Geoffrey wrote:

 If the other suggestions don't work, I'd measure the chain line to see if
 you're in tolerance.

 On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:58:53 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100%
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies
 category? Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
Also, I'd start put it in the smallest chainring, release all tension on 
the adjuster nut and start from scratch.  This way you can at least check 
the limit screw.  Then pull the cable with your hand all the way to the big 
ring and set that limit screw.  Then you can start to add tension to the 
cable itself.  When you're chain line is off, your front derailleur won't 
work nicely, that's what I'd check next.  From the middle chain ring to the 
center of your seat tube, you should be around 45mm.

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 6:42:15 AM UTC-6, Geoffrey wrote:

 If the other suggestions don't work, I'd measure the chain line to see if 
 you're in tolerance.

 On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:58:53 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? 
 Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-20 Thread Surlyprof
I also had a similar problem.  The derailleur hanger had twisted a little 
from my shoelace catching it.  I just had to rotate it slightly to fix the 
problem (in my situation). 

John

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? 
 Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-19 Thread dougP
I recall having something similar way back when.  It turned out I had the 
cable on the wrong side of the clamping screw.  I just looked now  on my 
Atlantis the FD cable is clamped on the side of the screw toward the center 
of the bike.  This is using a Shimano triple FD.  Not sure if that 
orientation is universal.  

dougP

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current 
 cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big 
 ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% 
 pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have 
 increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books.

 What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? 
 Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!

2015-01-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Huh. Who knows! I'll give it a gaze tomorrow. I am the knucklehead who 
replaced the cable, so chances are anything goes! Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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