[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm 650B AHH F/F/HS

2024-02-20 Thread iamkeith
Upon second look, I take part of that back.  You obviously knew this but, 
at that time  there appears to have been both a 56 in 700c and a 57 in 
650b.  I didn't remember that, and it’s odd because the 650b  saluki (which 
morphed into the AHH) came in the even size increments.  Still, a Riv size 
should measure c-t-t.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:52:31 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

>
> A 56 center-to-center seat tube measurement would likely equate to a 57 
> center-to-top measurement as tyically used by Rivendell.  But that actually 
> jives with the chart at the link you provided.  There is a 57 but not a 56.
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:
>
>> Good morning. I was told that the measurements didn't come through 
>> clearly in the pictures, so I remeasured and this is a 56. It's squarely 
>> 56cm, measured center to center. When I posted yesterday I misremembered 
>> and unfortunately I can't change the subject line.  *It is a 56cm.* 
>>
>> The seat tube measures 56cm CTC and the TT (CTC, but there's a 2* slope) 
>> is about 562. Riv's geo chart is here: 
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>>
>> And here's the geo on BikeInsights (comparing the 56 and the 58): 
>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5a1e69902a0c030014708caa,5a1e69902a0c030014708cab,
>>
>> Finally, here's the product page from that same archive/same era is here: 
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20170704042854/https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/a-homer-hilsen
>>
>> The only picture with the measuring tape I can discern is the headtube 
>> (~246mm), which is not a helpful measurement, IMO, but I know a lot of 
>> people look at that like gospel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel in LA, CA, USA
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:52:13 PM UTC-8 Dan wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. 
>>> This is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a 
>>> Waterford.  Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost 
>>> not included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might 
>>> need. Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange 
>>> headset. 
>>>
>>> For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
>>> are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
>>> in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
>>> wrapper). 
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>> LA, CA, USA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm 650B AHH F/F/HS

2024-02-20 Thread iamkeith

A 56 center-to-center seat tube measurement would likely equate to a 57 
center-to-top measurement as tyically used by Rivendell.  But that actually 
jives with the chart at the link you provided.  There is a 57 but not a 56.
On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:

> Good morning. I was told that the measurements didn't come through clearly 
> in the pictures, so I remeasured and this is a 56. It's squarely 56cm, 
> measured center to center. When I posted yesterday I misremembered and 
> unfortunately I can't change the subject line.  *It is a 56cm.* 
>
> The seat tube measures 56cm CTC and the TT (CTC, but there's a 2* slope) 
> is about 562. Riv's geo chart is here: 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> And here's the geo on BikeInsights (comparing the 56 and the 58): 
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5a1e69902a0c030014708caa,5a1e69902a0c030014708cab,
>
> Finally, here's the product page from that same archive/same era is here: 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170704042854/https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/a-homer-hilsen
>
> The only picture with the measuring tape I can discern is the headtube 
> (~246mm), which is not a helpful measurement, IMO, but I know a lot of 
> people look at that like gospel.
>
>
>
> Daniel in LA, CA, USA
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:52:13 PM UTC-8 Dan wrote:
>
>> I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. 
>> This is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a 
>> Waterford.  Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost 
>> not included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might 
>> need. Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange 
>> headset. 
>>
>> For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
>> are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
>> in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
>> wrapper). 
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA
>>
>> Daniel
>> LA, CA, USA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm 650B AHH F/F/HS

2024-02-20 Thread Dan
Good morning. I was told that the measurements didn't come through clearly 
in the pictures, so I remeasured and this is a 56. It's squarely 56cm, 
measured center to center. When I posted yesterday I misremembered and 
unfortunately I can't change the subject line.  *It is a 56cm.* 

The seat tube measures 56cm CTC and the TT (CTC, but there's a 2* slope) is 
about 562. Riv's geo chart is here: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry

And here's the geo on BikeInsights (comparing the 56 and the 58): 
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5a1e69902a0c030014708caa,5a1e69902a0c030014708cab,

Finally, here's the product page from that same archive/same era is here: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170704042854/https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/a-homer-hilsen

The only picture with the measuring tape I can discern is the headtube 
(~246mm), which is not a helpful measurement, IMO, but I know a lot of 
people look at that like gospel.



Daniel in LA, CA, USA
On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:52:13 PM UTC-8 Dan wrote:

> I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. This 
> is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a Waterford.  
> Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost not 
> included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might need. 
> Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange headset. 
>
> For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
> are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
> in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
> wrapper). 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA
>
> Daniel
> LA, CA, USA
>

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