Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Thanks Patrick. Glad to learn about SP hubs. It worked great on the roading while I had it. I mislabelled the hub in the FS post and Richard and I have resolved the matter. James On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 4:36:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Just a note on the SP (Shutter Precision) hub that does not bear on the > question of restorative justice. > > SP hubs are not bad; I've owned 2, and they're used by pros and semi pros > -- Lael Wilcox used an SP with her K-Lite on her record continental divide > win (beating the men, like Beryl Burton) a few years ago, and K-Lite spec'd > an SP with my dynamo light system when I bought it 7 years ago or so. > > They're better than the Shimano dynohubs, IME and from what I read about > drag and power, certainly in weight and looks, tho' my information is > several years old. > > But SONs, especially the extra light low drag ones are still the industry > standard and do cost about twice what the SPs cost -- the SP's don't cost > under $100; more like $150+. > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 7:08 AM RICHARD BORNEMAN wrote: > >> James, >> Bike got here with no major damage even with the poor packing job of >> the shop. The whole thing was flopping around in the box and I think it got >> a couple more dings but nothing major. >> My problem is with the front wheel. I was led to believe it had a Schmidt >> SON hub. >> That was one of the deciding factors for me. I was going to use the front >> wheel on another bike. It is in fact a Tiawan made SP hub that I have never >> heard of. Cost under $100. SON hubs are around $300. >> I would like a price adjustment of the difference between the two hubs >> cost. >> I have attached a photo of a SON hub compared to the SP on the Roadini. >> >> Richard >> -- >> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com on >> behalf of James >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2023 7:35 AM >> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch >> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build >> >> > SOLD! >> >> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-4 lambbo wrote: >> >> Looks like an incredible ready-to-roll bike ready for some fast >> credit-card tours this summer...if I hadn't just built mine up just like >> this I'd get it. >> >> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:47:37 AM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> Bump: $2,000 face to face sale in 28806. Willing to ship at owners >> expense >> >> On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:21:37 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense >> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through >> >> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139C392C1A09BFC3DD1F813BA429%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139C392C1A09BFC3DD1F813BA429%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > --- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/96a71e20-8c0b-4b61-85d6-e0bcbcbbe034n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Thanks for the input Patrick! Richard and I resolved this On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 4:36:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Just a note on the SP (Shutter Precision) hub that does not bear on the > question of restorative justice. > > SP hubs are not bad; I've owned 2, and they're used by pros and semi pros > -- Lael Wilcox used an SP with her K-Lite on her record continental divide > win (beating the men, like Beryl Burton) a few years ago, and K-Lite spec'd > an SP with my dynamo light system when I bought it 7 years ago or so. > > They're better than the Shimano dynohubs, IME and from what I read about > drag and power, certainly in weight and looks, tho' my information is > several years old. > > But SONs, especially the extra light low drag ones are still the industry > standard and do cost about twice what the SPs cost -- the SP's don't cost > under $100; more like $150+. > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 7:08 AM RICHARD BORNEMAN wrote: > >> James, >> Bike got here with no major damage even with the poor packing job of >> the shop. The whole thing was flopping around in the box and I think it got >> a couple more dings but nothing major. >> My problem is with the front wheel. I was led to believe it had a Schmidt >> SON hub. >> That was one of the deciding factors for me. I was going to use the front >> wheel on another bike. It is in fact a Tiawan made SP hub that I have never >> heard of. Cost under $100. SON hubs are around $300. >> I would like a price adjustment of the difference between the two hubs >> cost. >> I have attached a photo of a SON hub compared to the SP on the Roadini. >> >> Richard >> -- >> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com on >> behalf of James >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2023 7:35 AM >> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch >> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build >> >> > SOLD! >> >> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-4 lambbo wrote: >> >> Looks like an incredible ready-to-roll bike ready for some fast >> credit-card tours this summer...if I hadn't just built mine up just like >> this I'd get it. >> >> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:47:37 AM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> Bump: $2,000 face to face sale in 28806. Willing to ship at owners >> expense >> >> On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:21:37 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense >> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through >> >> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139C392C1A09BFC3DD1F813BA429%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139C392C1A09BFC3DD1F813BA429%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > --- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5680ece0-e34e-4147-ac1b-f094a51cf5b3n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Just a note on the SP (Shutter Precision) hub that does not bear on the question of restorative justice. SP hubs are not bad; I've owned 2, and they're used by pros and semi pros -- Lael Wilcox used an SP with her K-Lite on her record continental divide win (beating the men, like Beryl Burton) a few years ago, and K-Lite spec'd an SP with my dynamo light system when I bought it 7 years ago or so. They're better than the Shimano dynohubs, IME and from what I read about drag and power, certainly in weight and looks, tho' my information is several years old. But SONs, especially the extra light low drag ones are still the industry standard and do cost about twice what the SPs cost -- the SP's don't cost under $100; more like $150+. On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 7:08 AM RICHARD BORNEMAN wrote: > James, > Bike got here with no major damage even with the poor packing job of the > shop. The whole thing was flopping around in the box and I think it got a > couple more dings but nothing major. > My problem is with the front wheel. I was led to believe it had a Schmidt > SON hub. > That was one of the deciding factors for me. I was going to use the front > wheel on another bike. It is in fact a Tiawan made SP hub that I have never > heard of. Cost under $100. SON hubs are around $300. > I would like a price adjustment of the difference between the two hubs > cost. > I have attached a photo of a SON hub compared to the SP on the Roadini. > > Richard > -- > *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com < > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> on behalf of James > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2023 7:35 AM > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build > > SOLD! > > On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-4 lambbo wrote: > > Looks like an incredible ready-to-roll bike ready for some fast > credit-card tours this summer...if I hadn't just built mine up just like > this I'd get it. > > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:47:37 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > > Bump: $2,000 face to face sale in 28806. Willing to ship at owners expense > > On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:21:37 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > > Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense > On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > > Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through > > On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139C392C1A09BFC3DD1F813BA429%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139C392C1A09BFC3DD1F813BA429%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- --- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguswBK9kFA9HZZXyZb49V7NzjJ4i0oT25rK9nC5MupznA%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
SOLD! On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-4 lambbo wrote: > Looks like an incredible ready-to-roll bike ready for some fast > credit-card tours this summer...if I hadn't just built mine up just like > this I'd get it. > > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:47:37 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > >> Bump: $2,000 face to face sale in 28806. Willing to ship at owners >> expense >> >> On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:21:37 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >>> Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense >>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: >>> Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34b8ab50-4319-4278-af1e-d251d19f0bb9n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Looks like an incredible ready-to-roll bike ready for some fast credit-card tours this summer...if I hadn't just built mine up just like this I'd get it. On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:47:37 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > Bump: $2,000 face to face sale in 28806. Willing to ship at owners expense > > On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:21:37 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > >> Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense >> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >>> Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through >>> >>> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3f4934c4-0345-4843-a4db-23de41b24608n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Bump: $2,000 face to face sale in 28806. Willing to ship at owners expense On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:21:37 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense > On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > >> Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through >> >> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f835d610-3176-4d73-b374-a284d0dcb2bbn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Bump. $2,150 and will ship at buyers expense On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through > > On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3374ae48-4743-43b5-91b6-65f569983681n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build
Bump on this. Lots of interest but no follow-through On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote: > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8e050043-ecd5-404e-9910-fb8598ecf282n%40googlegroups.com.
