Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-19 Thread Hugh Smitham
Congratulations!

Complete bike?

Hugh

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 8:00 PM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> SOLD
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:55:59 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I added some more photos and details of the bike.  There are some small
>> scratches that I tried to capture.  I would say the bike looks in very good
>> shape but it isn't pristine.  Has the type of scratches, dirt you would
>> expect from a very well maintained bike used mostly on roads.
>>
>> The picture of the saddle height is at 72 in one pic, at the request of
>> someone on the list.  I forgot to measure standover but I would expect
>> 81-82 cm.  I'll drop the asking price to $2000.  If I don't get anyone that
>> is interesting in a couple of weeks I'll think about selling a partial
>> build.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other
>>> version - should be addressed privately to the seller.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the
 wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee
 that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will
 accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and
 $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that
 offer.

 Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've
 got some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that
 frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day
 where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I
 got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.

 I could use the 32F front rack...

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would
> be interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially
> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m
> interested if you consider that route.
>
> Joe
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it
>> boxed.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I
>>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott
 wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local
> pickup is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't
>> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
>> think it
>> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
>> to say
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
>> 45 for
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I
>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with 
>> and I
>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for 
>> it,
>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting.
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not
>> Shimano (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto 
>> and
>> can look, Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 
>> Canti
>> Brakes, Sugino Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear 
>> derailleur, and
>> Pasela 42 mm tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims 
>> with
>> Velocity Hubs. Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small 
>> paint
>> chip on the top tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.
>>
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>
>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to
>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
>> price.  I
>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  
>> I have
>> enough 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-19 Thread Jonathan D.
SOLD

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:55:59 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I added some more photos and details of the bike.  There are some small 
> scratches that I tried to capture.  I would say the bike looks in very good 
> shape but it isn't pristine.  Has the type of scratches, dirt you would 
> expect from a very well maintained bike used mostly on roads. 
>
> The picture of the saddle height is at 72 in one pic, at the request of 
> someone on the list.  I forgot to measure standover but I would expect 
> 81-82 cm.  I'll drop the asking price to $2000.  If I don't get anyone that 
> is interesting in a couple of weeks I'll think about selling a partial 
> build.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other 
>> version - should be addressed privately to the seller. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>>> offer.  
>>>
>>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>>
>>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
 interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
 wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
 interested if you consider that route. 

 Joe

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:

> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Bump.
>>
>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jonathan,
 What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
 pickup is possible?

 Thanks,
 Sean
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't 
> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
> think it 
> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
> to say 
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
> 45 for 
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
> I 
> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for 
> it, 
> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
> look, 
> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
> Sugino 
> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
> mm 
> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
> Hubs. 
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
> top 
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
> price.  I 
> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  
> I have 
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might 
> try selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-11 Thread Jonathan D.
I added some more photos and details of the bike.  There are some small 
scratches that I tried to capture.  I would say the bike looks in very good 
shape but it isn't pristine.  Has the type of scratches, dirt you would 
expect from a very well maintained bike used mostly on roads. 

The picture of the saddle height is at 72 in one pic, at the request of 
someone on the list.  I forgot to measure standover but I would expect 
81-82 cm.  I'll drop the asking price to $2000.  If I don't get anyone that 
is interesting in a couple of weeks I'll think about selling a partial 
build.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other 
> version - should be addressed privately to the seller. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>> offer.  
>>
>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>
>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Bump.
>
> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>> pickup is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
 the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
 is 
 similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
 say 
 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
 45 for 
 the Toyo.

 Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
 traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
 I 
 bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
 mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

 It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
 (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
 look, 
 Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
 Sugino 
 Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
 mm 
 tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
 Hubs. 
 Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
 top 
 tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

 I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
 price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
 price.  I 
 don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
 have 
 enough parts.

 I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might 
 try selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple 
> of questions come to mind that potential 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other version 
- should be addressed privately to the seller. 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
> offer.  
>
> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>
> I could use the 32F front rack...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Bump.

 I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
 flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>
>> Hey Jonathan,
>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>> pickup is possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>>> is 
>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
>>> say 
>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>>> for 
>>> the Toyo.
>>>
>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I 
>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>
>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>>> look, 
>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>> Sugino 
>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>>> Hubs. 
>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
>>> top 
>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>
>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
>>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
>>> price.  I 
>>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
>>> have 
>>> enough parts.
>>>
>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
 questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? 
 (range & 
 how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
 has 
 evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
 may 
 be helpful.  

 Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
 ridden.  

 dougP

 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one. 
>  This is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  
> This is 
> a MUSA Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might 
> be a 
> little small.  I was 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
My .02 I think selling a bike as a F/F/HS is much easier. People get to 
build up the bike the way they want and the seller has an easier time 
packing, plus shipping is generally less expensive.

Hugh

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:20:55 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> Right on, well let me know what you might let the 
> frame/fork/headset/bb/wheels go for. I understand that’s more inconvenient 
> than selling the whole bike, but that’s where my interest is. If you’re not 
> into it, no worries at all. It’s a beautiful build, just not all of what 
> I’m looking for 
>
> Joe 
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:
>
>> Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I 
>> bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It 
>> really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling 
>> individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.  
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see 
>> the other rack options I have for a bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. 
>>> I’m leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we 
>>> can discuss price if so. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
 wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll 
 guarantee 
 that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
 accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
 $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
 offer.  

 Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've 
 got some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
 frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
 where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
 got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  

 I could use the 32F front rack...

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would 
> be interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
> interested if you consider that route. 
>
> Joe
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it 
>> boxed.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
>>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott 
 wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
> pickup is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't 
>> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
>> think it 
>> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
>> to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
>> 45 for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with 
>> and I 
>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for 
>> it, 
>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not 
>> Shimano (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto 
>> and 
>> can look, Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 
>> Canti 
>> Brakes, Sugino Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear 
>> derailleur, and 
>> Pasela 42 mm tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims 
>> with 
>> Velocity Hubs. Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small 
>> paint 
>> chip on the top tube 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Shoemaker Music
Right on, well let me know what you might let the
frame/fork/headset/bb/wheels go for. I understand that’s more inconvenient
than selling the whole bike, but that’s where my interest is. If you’re not
into it, no worries at all. It’s a beautiful build, just not all of what
I’m looking for

Joe

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I
> bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It
> really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling
> individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.
>
> Bill,
>
> I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see
> the other rack options I have for a bike.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m
>> leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can
>> discuss price if so.
>>
>> Joe
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the
>>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee
>>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will
>>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and
>>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got
>>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that
>>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day
>>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I
>>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.
>>>
>>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be
 interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially
 wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m
 interested if you consider that route.

 Joe

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:

> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Bump.
>>
>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I
>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jonathan,
 What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local
 pickup is possible?

 Thanks,
 Sean
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't
> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
> think it
> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
> to say
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
> 45 for
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I
> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
> I
> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it,
> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting.
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano
> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
> look,
> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
> Sugino
> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
> mm
> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
> Hubs.
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
> top
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to
> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
> price.  I
> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  
> I have
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Jonathan D.
Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I 
bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It 
really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling 
individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.  

Bill,

I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see the 
other rack options I have for a bike.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m 
> leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can 
> discuss price if so. 
>
> Joe
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>> offer.  
>>
>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>
>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Bump.
>
> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>> pickup is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
 the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
 is 
 similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
 say 
 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
 45 for 
 the Toyo.

 Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
 traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
 I 
 bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
 mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

 It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
 (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
 look, 
 Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
 Sugino 
 Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
 mm 
 tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
 Hubs. 
 Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
 top 
 tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

 I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
 price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
 price.  I 
 don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
 have 
 enough parts.

 I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might 
 try selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple 
> of questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? 
> (range 
> & how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Shoemaker Music

Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m 
leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can 
discuss price if so. 

Joe
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
> offer.  
>
> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>
> I could use the 32F front rack...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Bump.

 I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
 flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>
>> Hey Jonathan,
>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>> pickup is possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>>> is 
>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
>>> say 
>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>>> for 
>>> the Toyo.
>>>
>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I 
>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>
>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>>> look, 
>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>> Sugino 
>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>>> Hubs. 
>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
>>> top 
>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>
>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
>>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
>>> price.  I 
>>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
>>> have 
>>> enough parts.
>>>
>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
 questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? 
 (range & 
 how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
 has 
 evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
 may 
 be helpful.  

 Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
 ridden.  

 dougP

 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one. 
>  This is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  
> This is 
> a MUSA Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
$100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
offer.  

Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  

I could use the 32F front rack...

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
> interested if you consider that route. 
>
> Joe
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
>>> flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
> pickup is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>> is 
>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>> for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I 
>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>> look, 
>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>> Sugino 
>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>> Hubs. 
>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
>> top 
>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>
>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price. 
>>  I 
>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
>> have 
>> enough parts.
>>
>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range 
>>> & 
>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
>>> has 
>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
>>> may 
>>> be helpful.  
>>>
>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
>>> ridden.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one. 
  This is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  
 This is 
 a MUSA Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might 
 be a 
 little small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
 including.  

 These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a 
 rush to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 
 plus 
 shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to 
 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Shoemaker Music
I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
interested if you consider that route. 

Joe

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:

> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Bump.
>>
>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
>> flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jonathan,
 What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
 pickup is possible?

 Thanks,
 Sean
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
> for 
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
> look, 
> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
> Sugino 
> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
> Hubs. 
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I 
> don't 
> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range 
>> & 
>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
>> has 
>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
>> may 
>> be helpful.  
>>
>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
>> ridden.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This 
>>> is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a 
>>> MUSA 
>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a 
>>> little 
>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
>>> including.  
>>>
>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a 
>>> rush to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 
>>> plus 
>>> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-08 Thread Jonathan D.
BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Bump.
>
> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
> flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>> pickup is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
 MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
 similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
 for 
 the Toyo.

 Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
 for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
 from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
 because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

 It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
 (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, 
 Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
 Sugino 
 Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
 tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
 Hubs. 
 Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
 tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

 I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
 want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
 enough parts.

 I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
 selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
> has 
> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
> may 
> be helpful.  
>
> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
> ridden.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This 
>> is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a 
>> MUSA 
>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a 
>> little 
>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
>> including.  
>>
>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
>> to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
>> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
>> questions.
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-06 Thread Jonathan D.
Bump.

I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>
>> Hey Jonathan,
>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
>> is possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
>>> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
>>> the Toyo.
>>>
>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
>>> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
>>> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
>>> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>
>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, 
>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino 
>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>
>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>>>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
>>> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
>>> enough parts.
>>>
>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
 questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
 how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
 evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
 be helpful.  

 Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
 ridden.  

 dougP

 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This 
> is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a 
> MUSA 
> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a 
> little 
> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
> including.  
>
> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
> to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
> questions.
>
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>


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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-04 Thread Jonathan D.
I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
> is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
>> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
>> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
>> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
>> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
>> tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
>> C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
>> triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
>> The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>
>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
>> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
>> enough parts.
>>
>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
>>> be helpful.  
>>>
>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is 
 a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
 Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
 small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including. 
  

 These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
 to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
 shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
 questions.

 https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-04 Thread Sean McDermott
Hey Jonathan,
What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
is possible?

Thanks,
Sean
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded for 
> it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought from 
> the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly because 
> of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
> tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
> C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
> triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
> The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
>> be helpful.  
>>
>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is 
>>> a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including.  
>>>
>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush to 
>>> sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus shipping. 
>>> I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer questions.
>>>
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-02 Thread Jonathan D.
Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
the Toyo.

Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded for 
it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought from 
the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly because 
of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
 I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
enough parts.

I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
> be helpful.  
>
> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is a 
>> really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including.  
>>
>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush to 
>> sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus shipping. 
>> I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer questions.
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition

2021-03-01 Thread dougP
Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
be helpful.  

Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  

dougP

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is a 
> really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including.  
>
> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush to 
> sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus shipping. 
> I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer questions.
>
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>

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