subject:"\[RBW\] Re\: FYI \- V\-Brake Arm Lengths"

[RBW] Re: FYI - V-Brake Arm Lengths

2014-06-21 Thread dougP

Now there's good information we can use.  I've puzzled over this question 
several times over the last couple of years.  A corresponding list of lever 
cable pulls would also be helpful.  In my own crude measurements and 
experience, standard levers have the pivot about an inch from the cable 
mount, and long pull about an inch-and-a-quarter.  I definitely need long 
pulls on 110 mm brakes, and have used standards up to 84 mm.  But that 
leaves a whole bunch of brakes in between.  And there must be other levers 
out there besides the Tektro road long pulls.  

Thanks for compiling.  

dougP

On Friday, June 20, 2014 9:12:47 AM UTC-7, Mark Chandler / GRAVELBIKE.com 
wrote:

 If you want to know if a particular v-brake will clear your bike's tire or 
 fender, I've compiled a list of arm lengths for popular v-brakes. This is a 
 living document, and I'll update it as more info becomes available (not all 
 manu's list their brakes' lengths).

 The list is available here:
 http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3298


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[RBW] Re: FYI - V-Brake Arm Lengths

2014-06-21 Thread Justin August

I think a good addition would be distance of bottom of brake slot from 
pivot point and top of slot from pivot point. Could be helpful to some 
folks trying conversion things.

-J

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:16:23 AM UTC-4, John Boland wrote:

 Well, Riv sells v-brakes, so that seems as good a litmus test for 
 BOBishness as any.  I am convinced that v-brakes are the most underrated of 
 braking systems.  Not as pretty as cantilevers (IMHO) and not as purely 
 efficient in all conditions as discs (debatable), but they are light 
 weight, inexpensive, and just *work* with minimal fuss.  I think 
 entry-level mountain bikes would be better off with a quality set of V's 
 than the no-name, low budget cable discs that are endemic to the species.  
 And entry-level CXers would certainly be better off with V's than the cheap 
 and maladjusted canti's that are endemic* that* species.  Anyway, thanks 
 for the chart.  I think it will be very useful to the v-brake cognoscenti.  

 On Friday, June 20, 2014 12:12:47 PM UTC-4, Mark Chandler / GRAVELBIKE.com 
 wrote:

 If you want to know if a particular v-brake will clear your bike's tire 
 or fender, I've compiled a list of arm lengths for popular v-brakes. This 
 is a living document, and I'll update it as more info becomes available 
 (not all manu's list their brakes' lengths).

 The list is available here:
 http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3298



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Re: [BOB] Re: [RBW] Re: FYI - V-Brake Arm Lengths

2014-06-21 Thread Joe Broach

Useful, Mark! Didn't know there was so much variation in arm length. I
haven't found a v-brake setup I like so far. Most experience has been with
Avid SD-7s on our tandem where the mech advantage seems too high. Too much
power and little modulation. When things get bouncy, I've been known to use
the drag brake instead because there's so little room for error between
light braking and full power at the levers.

Maybe I should try swapping in some shorter arms or lower advantage
controls. I'd been mulling a canti swap, but the v-brakes are handier for
cable routing on the tandem frame.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mark Chandler i.ride.gra...@gmail.com
wrote:

I've used them, and like them quite a bit. My only complaint is that the
cable is secured via a grub/set-screw (rather than a conventional
bolt/washer).

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Zack B zoombom...@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone using the box eclipse v-brakes want to comment on them?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Mark Chandler i.ride.gra...@gmail.com
wrote:

That would be indeed be useful info, but many manu's don't list that
measurement. I do know that the Paul MotoLite has an extended range of
adjustment, as do BOX/Promax.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com
wrote:

I think a good addition would be distance of bottom of brake slot from
pivot point and top of slot from pivot point. Could be helpful to some
folks trying conversion things.

-J

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:16:23 AM UTC-4, John Boland wrote:

Well, Riv sells v-brakes, so that seems as good a litmus test for
BOBishness as any. I am convinced that v-brakes are the most underrated
of
braking systems. Not as pretty as cantilevers (IMHO) and not as purely
efficient in all conditions as discs (debatable), but they are light
weight, inexpensive, and just *work* with minimal fuss. I think
entry-level mountain bikes would be better off with a quality set of V's
than the no-name, low budget cable discs that are endemic to the species.
And entry-level CXers would certainly be better off with V's than the
cheap
and maladjusted canti's that are endemic* that* species. Anyway,
thanks for the chart. I think it will be very useful to the v-brake
cognoscenti.

On Friday, June 20, 2014 12:12:47 PM UTC-4, Mark Chandler /
GRAVELBIKE.com wrote:

If you want to know if a particular v-brake will clear your bike's
tire or fender, I've compiled a list of arm lengths for popular v-brakes.
This is a living document, and I'll update it as more info becomes
available (not all manu's list their brakes' lengths).

The list is available here:
http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3298

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Re: [BOB] Re: [RBW] Re: FYI - V-Brake Arm Lengths

2014-06-21 Thread Zack B

Anyone using the box eclipse v-brakes want to comment on them?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Mark Chandler i.ride.gra...@gmail.com
wrote:

That would be indeed be useful info, but many manu's don't list that
measurement. I do know that the Paul MotoLite has an extended range of
adjustment, as do BOX/Promax.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com
wrote:

I think a good addition would be distance of bottom of brake slot from
pivot point and top of slot from pivot point. Could be helpful to some
folks trying conversion things.

-J

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:16:23 AM UTC-4, John Boland wrote:

Well, Riv sells v-brakes, so that seems as good a litmus test for
BOBishness as any. I am convinced that v-brakes are the most underrated of
braking systems. Not as pretty as cantilevers (IMHO) and not as purely
efficient in all conditions as discs (debatable), but they are light
weight, inexpensive, and just *work* with minimal fuss. I think
entry-level mountain bikes would be better off with a quality set of V's
than the no-name, low budget cable discs that are endemic to the species.
And entry-level CXers would certainly be better off with V's than the cheap
and maladjusted canti's that are endemic* that* species. Anyway,
thanks for the chart. I think it will be very useful to the v-brake
cognoscenti.

On Friday, June 20, 2014 12:12:47 PM UTC-4, Mark Chandler /
GRAVELBIKE.com wrote:

If you want to know if a particular v-brake will clear your bike's tire
or fender, I've compiled a list of arm lengths for popular v-brakes. This
is a living document, and I'll update it as more info becomes available
(not all manu's list their brakes' lengths).

The list is available here:
http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3298

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Re: [RBW] Re: FYI - V-Brake Arm Lengths

2014-06-21 Thread Mark Chandler

That would be indeed be useful info, but many manu's don't list that
measurement. I do know that the Paul MotoLite has an extended range of
adjustment, as do BOX/Promax.


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think a good addition would be distance of bottom of brake slot from
 pivot point and top of slot from pivot point. Could be helpful to some
 folks trying conversion things.

 -J


 On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:16:23 AM UTC-4, John Boland wrote:

 Well, Riv sells v-brakes, so that seems as good a litmus test for
 BOBishness as any.  I am convinced that v-brakes are the most underrated of
 braking systems.  Not as pretty as cantilevers (IMHO) and not as purely
 efficient in all conditions as discs (debatable), but they are light
 weight, inexpensive, and just *work* with minimal fuss.  I think
 entry-level mountain bikes would be better off with a quality set of V's
 than the no-name, low budget cable discs that are endemic to the species.
 And entry-level CXers would certainly be better off with V's than the cheap
 and maladjusted canti's that are endemic* that* species.  Anyway, thanks
 for the chart.  I think it will be very useful to the v-brake cognoscenti.

 On Friday, June 20, 2014 12:12:47 PM UTC-4, Mark Chandler /
 GRAVELBIKE.com wrote:

 If you want to know if a particular v-brake will clear your bike's tire
 or fender, I've compiled a list of arm lengths for popular v-brakes. This
 is a living document, and I'll update it as more info becomes available
 (not all manu's list their brakes' lengths).

 The list is available here:
 http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3298

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Re: [BOB] Re: [RBW] Re: FYI - V-Brake Arm Lengths

2014-06-21 Thread Zack B

Does the grub screw sit flat on the cable?