Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-06 Thread Clayton Scott
Awesome! I might just extend my ride a little tomorrow.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio.

 If you're in the Valley Ford, Occidental, Monte Rio area you're in
 prime cycling territory. And you can ride what some say is the best
 bike ride in the world, King Ridge. From Monte Rio, head down the
 river a couple of miles. Turn right on the Cazadero Highway, which is
 more like a little side road. When you get to Cazadero, keep going on
 King Ridge, to the Bicycle Fun Zone. One way back is to go right on
 Hauser Bridge, an extremely steep downhill followed by an uphill on
 Seaview.  Go down to Highway 1 via Meyer Grade. South on 1, left at
 Jenner to go back up the river to Monte Rio. It'll be about 55 miles.

 I rode King Ridge for the first time this weekend. I thought I'd died
 and gone to Bicycle Heaven. There may be a better bike ride, but so
 far I haven't discovered one.

 In keeping with recent discussions, I highly recommend bringing some
 cookies along.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-06 Thread Clayton Scott
Just followed it on a map. Looks epic!

Thanks for sharing!

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio.

 If you're in the Valley Ford, Occidental, Monte Rio area you're in
 prime cycling territory. And you can ride what some say is the best
 bike ride in the world, King Ridge. From Monte Rio, head down the
 river a couple of miles. Turn right on the Cazadero Highway, which is
 more like a little side road. When you get to Cazadero, keep going on
 King Ridge, to the Bicycle Fun Zone. One way back is to go right on
 Hauser Bridge, an extremely steep downhill followed by an uphill on
 Seaview.  Go down to Highway 1 via Meyer Grade. South on 1, left at
 Jenner to go back up the river to Monte Rio. It'll be about 55 miles.

 I rode King Ridge for the first time this weekend. I thought I'd died
 and gone to Bicycle Heaven. There may be a better bike ride, but so
 far I haven't discovered one.

 In keeping with recent discussions, I highly recommend bringing some
 cookies along.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-06 Thread CR Masterson
To all who are posting routes and comments:  Thanks!!! Now to study it
all!

Christine

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 I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin.  Or any other
 way you have fallen in love with.  It would be nice avoid huge trucks,
 mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible.
 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-05 Thread ian connelly
(caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north
of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding
in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma
locals!)

i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get
started.  only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those
spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem
willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also
take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and
transfer (check http://www.eastbayferry.com/ for schedules etc).

from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa,
and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay
trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are
making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be
via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go
into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep,
narrow.
you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to
go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12
or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested
with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in
the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if
you must ride them at all.

via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to
larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards
to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on
petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north
via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road
(east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky
options, so ymmv depending.

(after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google
suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route
adds 20 miles. good luck!)

ian

On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin.  Or any other
 way you have fallen in love with.  It would be nice avoid huge trucks,
 mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible.
 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-05 Thread Andy.M
I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is
road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so
if you go that way be careful!  The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd  is
gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;)
-Andy

On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly ico...@gmail.com wrote:
 (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north
 of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding
 in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma
 locals!)

 i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get
 started.  only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those
 spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem
 willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also
 take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and
 transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/for schedules etc).

 from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa,
 and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay
 trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are
 making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be
 via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go
 into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep,
 narrow.
 you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to
 go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12
 or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested
 with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in
 the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if
 you must ride them at all.

 via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to
 larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards
 to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on
 petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north
 via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road
 (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky
 options, so ymmv depending.

 (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google
 suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route
 adds 20 miles. good luck!)

 ian

 On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin.  Or any other
  way you have fallen in love with.  It would be nice avoid huge trucks,
  mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible.
  Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-05 Thread reynoldslugs
Living in Sonoma County and concerned with the safety of all Rivendell
and other riders, I resepctfully suggest that you stay away from
Vallejo and Highway 29.  Make your way via ferry to SF or MArin County/
Sausalito - then find the back roads up to Petaluma and Santa Rosa.  I
haven't done the ride for several years, but you can ramble around and
up to the top of Mt Tam.  Be safe.

On Aug 5, 11:56 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is
 road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so
 if you go that way be careful!  The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd  is
 gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;)
 -Andy

 On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly ico...@gmail.com wrote:



  (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north
  of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding
  in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma
  locals!)

  i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get
  started.  only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those
  spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem
  willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also
  take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and
  transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/forschedules etc).

  from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa,
  and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay
  trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are
  making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be
  via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go
  into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep,
  narrow.
  you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to
  go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12
  or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested
  with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in
  the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if
  you must ride them at all.

  via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to
  larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards
  to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on
  petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north
  via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road
  (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky
  options, so ymmv depending.

  (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google
  suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route
  adds 20 miles. good luck!)

  ian

  On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote:

   I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin.  Or any other
   way you have fallen in love with.  It would be nice avoid huge trucks,
   mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible.
   Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-05 Thread Clayton Scott
Hi Franklyn,

Clayton here. I would be very happy if you could send me the backroads way
west of petaluma through sebastopol and west sonoma trail.

I will be riding to healdsburg again (inlaws live up there) this saturday
and have already found a bunch of fun and not so fun routes but have not
done this one yet.

My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio.

Anyway, if you could sent that would be great. Of course you are welcome to
join the fun too if you want to come along. I will leave around 6am from SF
on Sat.

Best,
Clayton

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:07 PM, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote:

 I have done this many times. You can start in the City after getting
 across the Bay, then go through fairfax to nicasio, then go to
 Petaluma, then takes Old Redwood Hwy (parallel to 101) all the way to
 santa rosa. You can also stay west of petaluma in the back roads
 through sebastopal then take the west sonoma trail into santa rosa
 (contact me offlist for the exact route).

 you can also take golden gate transit at El Cerrito Del Norte BART to
 San Rafael then wind through Marin.

 I am actually probably starting my journey in Berkeley this saturday
 to ride to Ukiah (another 60 miles north of Santa Rosa).

 Franklyn

 On Aug 5, 4:31 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
  Living in Sonoma County and concerned with the safety of all Rivendell
  and other riders, I resepctfully suggest that you stay away from
  Vallejo and Highway 29.  Make your way via ferry to SF or MArin County/
  Sausalito - then find the back roads up to Petaluma and Santa Rosa.  I
  haven't done the ride for several years, but you can ramble around and
  up to the top of Mt Tam.  Be safe.
 
  On Aug 5, 11:56 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is
   road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so
   if you go that way be careful!  The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd  is
   gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;)
   -Andy
 
   On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly ico...@gmail.com wrote:
 
(caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north
of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding
in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma
locals!)
 
i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get
started.  only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those
spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem
willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also
take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and
transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/forschedulesetc).
 
from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa,
and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay
trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are
making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be
via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and
 go
into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep,
narrow.
you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having
 to
go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12
or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested
with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in
the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon
 if
you must ride them at all.
 
via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to
larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn
 towards
to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on
petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head
 north
via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road
(east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky
options, so ymmv depending.
 
(after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google
suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route
adds 20 miles. good luck!)
 
ian
 
On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin.  Or any
 other
 way you have fallen in love with.  It would be nice avoid huge
 trucks,
 mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible.
 Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:

 My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio.

If you're in the Valley Ford, Occidental, Monte Rio area you're in
prime cycling territory. And you can ride what some say is the best
bike ride in the world, King Ridge. From Monte Rio, head down the
river a couple of miles. Turn right on the Cazadero Highway, which is
more like a little side road. When you get to Cazadero, keep going on
King Ridge, to the Bicycle Fun Zone. One way back is to go right on
Hauser Bridge, an extremely steep downhill followed by an uphill on
Seaview.  Go down to Highway 1 via Meyer Grade. South on 1, left at
Jenner to go back up the river to Monte Rio. It'll be about 55 miles.

I rode King Ridge for the first time this weekend. I thought I'd died
and gone to Bicycle Heaven. There may be a better bike ride, but so
far I haven't discovered one.

In keeping with recent discussions, I highly recommend bringing some
cookies along.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa

2010-08-04 Thread Jim M.
From Oakland you could go north through San Pablo, Hercules, etc.,
cross the Carquinez Bridge, and then go through Napa. But going
through Marin would be nicer and have less traffic.


On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin.  Or any other
 way you have fallen in love with.  It would be nice avoid huge trucks,
 mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible.
 Thanks.

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