[RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?

2012-03-10 Thread Michael Hechmer
I don't know how you can be so certain of the crank ID.  One thing in the 
blog I can attest to, 1980s vintage Campy parts were a snap to service, wy 
easier than anything on the market today.  But they did demand regular 
attention.

Michael

On Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:45:17 AM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18453547329/variety-pacque 

 A bit past half way down the 2/28 Blug post (yeah, I don't keep 
 current on the Blug), there's a paragraph about wrestilng with a 
 modern Campy crank.  The photo shows Mark attacking the crank with a 
 puller.  The paragraph laments the loss of the 'servicability' of old 
 Campy parts. 

 The thing is, that's clearly an Ultra Torque crank in the photo.  It 
 has external cups and retaining clip on the drive side cup.  It's as 
 easy a crank / BB to mount or dismount as it can possibly be.  There's 
 no need for a crank puller on one of those, and no possible use for 
 one. 

 The removal procedure is at the bottom of this page from Park Tool: 

 http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque
  
 Remove one bolt from inside the split hollow spindle, remove the 
 retainer clip, and the cranks slide right out. 

 Did someone manage to strip out or cross thread the spindle bolt? 
 That would make it a pain to get the crank apart, but the puller 
 probably wouldn't help.  You'd want to drill out the bolt instead. 
 The only other explanation I can think of is that someone is treating 
 that crank like it has a square taper and a cartridge BB.  No good 
 will come of that. 

 I hope they haven't taken a hacksaw to that crank. 

 Bill

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[RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?

2012-03-10 Thread Bill M.
There had to be an explanation.  I hadn't paid any attention to PT
since it came out after I bought my UT cranks.  This looks as fun as
extracting cotter pins from steel cranks.

I'm not big on fixing aluminum crankarms to splines, this reinforces
that bias.

Bill

On Mar 10, 12:00 pm, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I thought the same as you... but... it is not an Ultra-Torque.
 It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the photo makes it seem.

 Search this list for discussion.

 I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007.

 Cheers,
 Sean

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Re: [RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?

2012-03-10 Thread Sean Whelan
The only problem I have found with the UT cranks are that the bearings are not 
actually sealed. Seized drive-side bearings are fairly common, if you ride in 
all weather, as many of us do. I had to replace the bearings with less than 
5000 miles on them.

cheers,
Sean

--- On Sat, 3/10/12, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 3:46 PM
 There had to be an explanation. 
 I hadn't paid any attention to PT
 since it came out after I bought my UT cranks.  This
 looks as fun as
 extracting cotter pins from steel cranks.
 
 I'm not big on fixing aluminum crankarms to splines, this
 reinforces
 that bias.
 
 Bill
 
 On Mar 10, 12:00 pm, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I thought the same as you... but... it is not an
 Ultra-Torque.
  It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the
 photo makes it seem.
 
  Search this list for discussion.
 
  I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007.
 
  Cheers,
  Sean
 
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