[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ah! First good brain day in four days. I'll take it! So I'll be 
there, in case anyone can make it last minute. If you can, great! If you 
can't, looking forward to when you can.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
So far that are up to three of us going. Here is the planned ride (switched 
from the Pikes Peak region so Denver area folks needn't drive three hours 
one way):

The Ride: Colorado Trail, Segment 3. (24 miles RT) with possible options 
 in the Buffalo Creek Rec. Area. -- open to ideas.
The plan is for a fun, all day, but relaxed ride.
Meet at the trail head around 9am

Directions (from the Colorado Trail Guide Book):
From Denver: 285 SW to Pine Junction. Turn left on Jefferson County Rd. 126 
(Pine Valley Rd.) and proceed through Pine and Buffalo Creek. Continue 4 
miles past the bridge over the South Platte River in Buffalo Creek to the 
intersection with FS Road 550. This intersection is also 1 miles past 
Spring Creek Road. Turn right (west) on FS Road 550 and drive 0.1 mile to 
the parking area. There is a parking fee of $5 (but parking may? be 
available on the FS road?).

Food:
I won't be eating, but you are welcome to bring whatever you like for 
snacks and lunch. There are plenty of food and beer options in the gambling 
town of Cripple Creek for after (though I can't join for my bludgeoned 
brain).

If a Hard Brain Day: In the event that I'm not doing well enough to ride on 
Saturday, I will post here by 6:30am (let me know if that is not enough 
time before you need to leave), though you are of course welcome to do the 
ride anyway!

I think that covers everything, but let me know if I missed anything.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here is a link to the trails around the CT segment 3:
http://frmbp.org/maps.html

Quite a few options, and if we want free parking, it looks like we could 
just park in Buffalo Creek and go from there.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-13 Thread nawrock
I would like to join in too, but have to work. Have a blast! 
Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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From: Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:21:26 PM 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride 

Wish I could join you, but I have to work through the weekend. Saturday may be 
the last good mountain ride day of the year. The storm system passing through 
on Sunday was looking more impressive, producing significant mountain snows. 

On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:55:01 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: 



Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be worth 
a go. 

When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day. 
Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, options 
include: 

— Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near Cripple 
Creek) 
— Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, fairly 
secluded mountain road) 
— If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the end of 
Edlow Road west of Woodland Park. 

Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the first two 
should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow amount at higher 
elevations.). 

Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted Thursday or 
Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity Saturday, but I am 
foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent or soap/shampoo etc., 
I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin. 

With abandon, 
Patrick 

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Dave and Mojo, that's a bummer you have to work the weekend. Is that 
standard for you both? We'll just have to plan a ride around your 
schedules. Depending on sun and snow frequency, roads can be surprisingly 
clear -- one possibility for some winter rides is some of the dirt roads 
outside of Deckers, in the Haymen burn area, which obviously gets lots of 
sun exposure compared with a forested road. That would make it an easier 
drive for you both to get there, too, would it not?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:23:30 AM UTC-7, Dave Nawrocki wrote:

 I would like to join in too, but have to work.  Have a blast!
 Dave Nawrocki
 Fort Collins, CO

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 *Subject: *[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

 Wish I could join you, but I have to work through the weekend. Saturday 
 may be the last good mountain ride day of the year. The storm system 
 passing through on Sunday was looking more impressive, producing 
 significant mountain snows.
  

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:55:01 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be 
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the 
 end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the 
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow 
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted 
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity 
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent 
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*


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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
The strength of the scent will determine the distance. Grin. There were 
some amazing pine, vanilla and loamy scents on today's ride. Curious to 
smell what is in store for a post snow ride (snow likely Friday). 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon outstanding! I like the fact that though you have scent sensitivity 
 you will accommodate those by riding up wind. I agree with Doug spontaneity 
 is a great thing, keeps things fresh...and if I could I'd be there with as 
 little scent as I could manage. Look forward to seeing the pictures for 
 what I know is amazingly scenic terrain you fortunate fellow.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be 
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the 
 end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the 
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow 
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted 
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity 
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent 
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Not seeing any posts by any other Southeastern Coloradins? Other than you I
haven't seen many on the Bunch perhaps they're waiting for fair weather
;-)


Best,


~Hugh


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 The strength of the scent will determine the distance. Grin. There were
 some amazing pine, vanilla and loamy scents on today's ride. Curious to
 smell what is in store for a post snow ride (snow likely Friday).

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon outstanding! I like the fact that though you have scent
 sensitivity you will accommodate those by riding up wind. I agree with Doug
 spontaneity is a great thing, keeps things fresh...and if I could I'd be
 there with as little scent as I could manage. Look forward to seeing the
 pictures for what I know is amazingly scenic terrain you fortunate fellow.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference,
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved,
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the
 end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
No worries, Hugh. So far there are two of us and we'll enjoy the ride!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Not seeing any posts by any other Southeastern Coloradins? Other than you 
 I haven't seen many on the Bunch perhaps they're waiting for fair weather 
 ;-) 


 Best,


 ~Hugh


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 The strength of the scent will determine the distance. Grin. There were 
 some amazing pine, vanilla and loamy scents on today's ride. Curious to 
 smell what is in store for a post snow ride (snow likely Friday). 

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon outstanding! I like the fact that though you have scent 
 sensitivity you will accommodate those by riding up wind. I agree with Doug 
 spontaneity is a great thing, keeps things fresh...and if I could I'd be 
 there with as little scent as I could manage. Look forward to seeing the 
 pictures for what I know is amazingly scenic terrain you fortunate fellow.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may 
 be worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the 
 end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the 
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow 
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted 
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity 
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry 
 detergent 
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Deacon who is the other someone from the Group?


Best,


~Hugh


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 No worries, Hugh. So far there are two of us and we'll enjoy the ride!

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Not seeing any posts by any other Southeastern Coloradins? Other than you
 I haven't seen many on the Bunch perhaps they're waiting for fair weather
 ;-)


 Best,


 ~Hugh


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 The strength of the scent will determine the distance. Grin. There were
 some amazing pine, vanilla and loamy scents on today's ride. Curious to
 smell what is in store for a post snow ride (snow likely Friday).

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon outstanding! I like the fact that though you have scent
 sensitivity you will accommodate those by riding up wind. I agree with Doug
 spontaneity is a great thing, keeps things fresh...and if I could I'd be
 there with as little scent as I could manage. Look forward to seeing the
 pictures for what I know is amazingly scenic terrain you fortunate fellow.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may
 be worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference,
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved,
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the
 end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry 
 detergent
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Mojo
Wish I could join you, but I have to work through the weekend. Saturday may 
be the last good mountain ride day of the year. The storm system passing 
through on Sunday was looking more impressive, producing significant 
mountain snows. 
 

On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:55:01 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be 
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the end 
 of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the first 
 two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow amount at 
 higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted Thursday 
 or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity Saturday, but 
 I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent or 
 soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Steve isn't from the group. But he's this 
guy: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9980990853/in/set-72157635975329866

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:15:27 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon who is the other someone from the Group?


 Best,


 ~Hugh


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 No worries, Hugh. So far there are two of us and we'll enjoy the ride!

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Not seeing any posts by any other Southeastern Coloradins? Other than 
 you I haven't seen many on the Bunch perhaps they're waiting for fair 
 weather ;-) 


 Best,


 ~Hugh


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

  The strength of the scent will determine the distance. Grin. There 
 were some amazing pine, vanilla and loamy scents on today's ride. Curious 
 to smell what is in store for a post snow ride (snow likely Friday). 

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon outstanding! I like the fact that though you have scent 
 sensitivity you will accommodate those by riding up wind. I agree with 
 Doug 
 spontaneity is a great thing, keeps things fresh...and if I could I'd be 
 there with as little scent as I could manage. Look forward to seeing the 
 pictures for what I know is amazingly scenic terrain you fortunate fellow.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may 
 be worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off 
 the end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the 
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow 
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted 
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity 
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry 
 detergent 
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-11 Thread Manuel Acosta
Sounds like fun. Alas distance and time



On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be 
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the end 
 of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the first 
 two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow amount at 
 higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted Thursday 
 or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity Saturday, but 
 I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent or 
 soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-11 Thread dougP
This flash ride thing could turn into a movement.  Spontaneity should not 
be under-rated :-)

dougP

On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:54:30 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Sounds like fun. Alas distance and time



 On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be 
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the 
 end of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the 
 first two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow 
 amount at higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted 
 Thursday or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity 
 Saturday, but I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent 
 or soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-11 Thread hsmitham
Deacon outstanding! I like the fact that though you have scent sensitivity 
you will accommodate those by riding up wind. I agree with Doug spontaneity 
is a great thing, keeps things fresh...and if I could I'd be there with as 
little scent as I could manage. Look forward to seeing the pictures for 
what I know is amazingly scenic terrain you fortunate fellow.

~Hugh

On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:55:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Seeing all the fun SoCal and Portlandia are having I thought this may be 
 worth a go.

 When: Saturday, November 16, meet at 9am and plan for the day.
 Where: TBD. Depending on snow the day(s) before and rider preference, 
 options include:

 — Phantom Canyon or Cold Camp Road (dirt railroad grades) (meet near 
 Cripple Creek)
 — Manitou Lake to Deckers (option to Buffalo Creek) and back (paved, 
 fairly secluded mountain road)
 — If not too snowy, ride some Pikes Peak single track starting off the end 
 of Edlow Road west of Woodland Park.

 Location will be chosen based on riders interest and/or weather (the first 
 two should be ok, the latter can be problematic depending on snow amount at 
 higher elevations.).

 Let me know if you are interested. Final ride info will be posted Thursday 
 or Friday. My participation is dependent on my brain capacity Saturday, but 
 I am foolishly hopeful! If you have scented laundry detergent or 
 soap/shampoo etc., I’ll just ride on your windward side. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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