[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

2019-12-09 Thread Pancake 
I'm looking at using friction shifters (Sunrace thumbies upside down) on my 
9-speed cassette with a clutched derailleur from: (a) Shimano 10 speed 
(e.g., M786) or (b) Microshift Advent ... could you give me some more info 
about the Blahg or Blug that mentioned this method for adjusting the 
shifter diameter to adjust cable pull? Or am I reading that wrong and it 
wouldn't affect cable pull distance?

Abe


On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 7:27:19 AM UTC-7, lconley wrote:
>
> You can install some housing inner liner on the part of cable that wraps 
> around the shifter - effectively increasing the diameter of the shifter. 
> You can hold the liner in place with shrink wrap beyond where the shifter 
> wraps the cable. It was on the Blug or Blahg a month or so ago. I don't 
> know if you can use a couple of layers of shrink wrap directly and skip the 
> liner. I doubt the shrink wrap would hold up long term rubbing on the 
> shifter.
>
> Laing
> Cocoa FL
>
> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:11:28 AM UTC-4, Jon BALER wrote:
>
>> I have a shimano 9 speed bar end shifter (in friction mode) with 10 speed 
>> dynasis rear der.  I had to dremel the shifter mount to allow for more 
>> lever travel/rotation to get enough cable pull.
>>
>> On another bike, I have a IRD Silver SOS power ratchet with 10 speed 
>> dynasis rear der.   With the standard (e.g. flat bar) mounts, the shifters 
>> had enough cable travel to shift the entire cassette.  When I converted 
>> them to bar end shifters using Riv mounts, I no longer have enough travel 
>> to reach 1 cog on the cassette.  I either have to dremel the mounts, or 
>> continue to live with not reaching one cog.
>>
>> Thanks for the info on the 8 speed shifter working.  Sounds like that may 
>> also be a good solution for me.
>>
>> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 2:59:55 PM UTC-4, Frederic Laforest wrote:
>>>
>>> indeed  i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in 
>>> friction mode ) with a  10 speed  shimano cassette  but with a mega 9 xt 
>>> rd-771 sgs  , now  my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my 
>>> other bike) with these shifter in friction mode  
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015 12:58:55 UTC-4, Clayton.sf a écrit :

 Hi All,

  

 Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that 
 internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything 
 but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 
 8 
 speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works 
 amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a 
 greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the 
 result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 
 speed 
 cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is 
 helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette.

  

 Thanks,

 Clayton Scott

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

2018-05-08 Thread lconley 
You can install some housing inner liner on the part of cable that wraps 
around the shifter - effectively increasing the diameter of the shifter. 
You can hold the liner in place with shrink wrap beyond where the shifter 
wraps the cable. It was on the Blug or Blahg a month or so ago. I don't 
know if you can use a couple of layers of shrink wrap directly and skip the 
liner. I doubt the shrink wrap would hold up long term rubbing on the 
shifter.

Laing
Cocoa FL

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:11:28 AM UTC-4, Jon BALER wrote:

> I have a shimano 9 speed bar end shifter (in friction mode) with 10 speed 
> dynasis rear der.  I had to dremel the shifter mount to allow for more 
> lever travel/rotation to get enough cable pull.
>
> On another bike, I have a IRD Silver SOS power ratchet with 10 speed 
> dynasis rear der.   With the standard (e.g. flat bar) mounts, the shifters 
> had enough cable travel to shift the entire cassette.  When I converted 
> them to bar end shifters using Riv mounts, I no longer have enough travel 
> to reach 1 cog on the cassette.  I either have to dremel the mounts, or 
> continue to live with not reaching one cog.
>
> Thanks for the info on the 8 speed shifter working.  Sounds like that may 
> also be a good solution for me.
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 2:59:55 PM UTC-4, Frederic Laforest wrote:
>>
>> indeed  i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in 
>> friction mode ) with a  10 speed  shimano cassette  but with a mega 9 xt 
>> rd-771 sgs  , now  my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my 
>> other bike) with these shifter in friction mode  
>>
>> Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015 12:58:55 UTC-4, Clayton.sf a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that 
>>> internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything 
>>> but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 
>>> speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works 
>>> amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a 
>>> greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the 
>>> result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 speed 
>>> cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is 
>>> helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Clayton Scott
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

2018-05-08 Thread Tim Gavin 
FYI, the 10-speed (black) Shimano pods allow for more lever travel.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Jon BALER  wrote:

> I have a shimano 9 speed bar end shifter (in friction mode) with 10 speed
> dynasis rear der.  I had to dremel the shifter mount to allow for more
> lever travel/rotation to get enough cable pull.
>
> On another bike, I have a IRD Silver SOS power ratchet with 10 speed
> dynasis rear der.   With the standard (e.g. flat bar) mounts, the shifters
> had enough cable travel to shift the entire cassette.  When I converted
> them to bar end shifters using Riv mounts, I no longer have enough travel
> to reach 1 cog on the cassette.  I either have to dremel the mounts, or
> continue to live with not reaching one cog.
>
> Thanks for the info on the 8 speed shifter working.  Sounds like that may
> also be a good solution for me.
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 2:59:55 PM UTC-4, Frederic Laforest wrote:
>>
>> indeed  i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in
>> friction mode ) with a  10 speed  shimano cassette  but with a mega 9 xt
>> rd-771 sgs  , now  my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my
>> other bike) with these shifter in friction mode
>>
>> Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015 12:58:55 UTC-4, Clayton.sf a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that
>>> internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything
>>> but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8
>>> speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works
>>> amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a
>>> greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the
>>> result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 speed
>>> cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is
>>> helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Clayton Scott
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

2018-05-08 Thread Jon BALER 
I have a shimano 9 speed bar end shifter (in friction mode) with 10 speed 
dynasis rear der.  I had to dremel the shifter mount to allow for more 
lever travel/rotation to get enough cable pull.

On another bike, I have a IRD Silver SOS power ratchet with 10 speed 
dynasis rear der.   With the standard (e.g. flat bar) mounts, the shifters 
had enough cable travel to shift the entire cassette.  When I converted 
them to bar end shifters using Riv mounts, I no longer have enough travel 
to reach 1 cog on the cassette.  I either have to dremel the mounts, or 
continue to live with not reaching one cog.

Thanks for the info on the 8 speed shifter working.  Sounds like that may 
also be a good solution for me.

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 2:59:55 PM UTC-4, Frederic Laforest wrote:
>
> indeed  i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in 
> friction mode ) with a  10 speed  shimano cassette  but with a mega 9 xt 
> rd-771 sgs  , now  my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my 
> other bike) with these shifter in friction mode  
>
> Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015 12:58:55 UTC-4, Clayton.sf a écrit :
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that 
>> internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything 
>> but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 
>> speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works 
>> amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a 
>> greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the 
>> result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 speed 
>> cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is 
>> helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Clayton Scott
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

2018-05-07 Thread Frederic Laforest 
indeed  i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in 
friction mode ) with a  10 speed  shimano cassette  but with a mega 9 xt 
rd-771 sgs  , now  my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my 
other bike) with these shifter in friction mode  

Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015 12:58:55 UTC-4, Clayton.sf a écrit :
>
> Hi All,
>
>  
>
> Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that 
> internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything 
> but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 
> speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works 
> amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a 
> greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the 
> result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 speed 
> cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is 
> helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clayton Scott
>

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