[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
I hope it does make them Smile. I'm taking advantage of their really generous SmileTrain promo to buy the Orange powdercoated 56cm Bomba on the Frame Specials page. I'm smiling on the economics of it. I give $250 to Smile Train, so Smile Train smiles I buy an in-stock Bombadil, so I smile and Rivendell smiles I get $187.50 credit towards the thing, and I get $200 worth of free parts towards the build and I get a tax write off for $250 It's almost like stealing. On Feb 16, 10:43 am, Bruce wrote: > That would make John, Keven, et al smile ... > > > From: William > > I guess I should buy that Bomba to accept these tires, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
That would make John, Keven, et al smile ... From: William I guess I should buy that Bomba to accept these tires, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
Looking forward to my pariI mean pair. I checked out the prototype 1 on the shelf at Riv-HQ yesterday, and the tread was CRAZY thin. I'm glad Kirk put a little bit more meat on them. I guess I should buy that Bomba to accept these tires, too. On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce wrote: > Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies.. > > - Forwarded Message > From: Kirk Pacenti > To: 6...@bikelist.org > Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM > Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010 > > Dear 650b fans, > > Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are > complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to production. > > We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the mould, but > hopefully we’ll still get tires here by the end of March. > > Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project > early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality! > > Cheers, > > KP > > > > ___ > 650B mailing list > 6...@bikelist.orghttp://phred.org/mailman/listinfo/650b -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Feb 14, 4:23 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > It might be, if the pavement was bad enough. absolutely. some "pavement" is worse than unpaved surfaces. for the sake of argument, however, i'm thinking paved roads in good condition for road riding. 38mm sounds real nice for mixed terrain ride that features varied surfaces - like D2R2, which you mentioned. I did the 100 miler on the challenge parigi-roubaix tires last year and was fast and comfortable, but not entirely surefooted on some of the loose dirt/gravel descents (which are quite fast). I plan on using the Pari-Moto this year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 12:58 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote: > > On Feb 13, 4:53 pm, "Bill M." wrote: > > If Jan Heine's theories on > > tire width and rolling resistance are true, the P-M should be faster > > on the road than the Cypress. > > That's not entirely accurate. One question that hasn't been answered > or tested is a what point the advantages of wider tires level off. > testing has shown that wider equals faster for a certain range of tire > widths, but I don't think it's safe to say a 38mm tire will be faster > than 30mm tire, all things being equal. It might be, if the pavement was bad enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Feb 13, 4:53 pm, "Bill M." wrote: > If Jan Heine's theories on > tire width and rolling resistance are true, the P-M should be faster > on the road than the Cypress. That's not entirely accurate. One question that hasn't been answered or tested is a what point the advantages of wider tires level off. testing has shown that wider equals faster for a certain range of tire widths, but I don't think it's safe to say a 38mm tire will be faster than 30mm tire, all things being equal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM, rswat...@me.com wrote: > > > Depends on which Grand Bois. The Ourson is good in dirt, but the Hetre not > so much. It's all Cush and no traction. It's OK to an extent, but if it gets > steep it starts slipping on me. > It's still my favorite tire, but I take the Trimlines if I expect to see > much dirt. > Or the Neo-motos if it's ALL dirt. > Personally, my Pari-Motos will be strictly road tires. > Your mileage may vary, I've got friends who kick my butt on the trails with > 23mm slicks! > > Ryan > > Respectfully have to disagree about the Hetre. When I ride with folks using them, they are never at a disadvantage that I've seen. They seem to do everything a Pasela can, while providing more comfort in the process. Now this isn't anything steep or technical, but still a lot of dirt riding with sections of both of the above. Again, I'm comparing them to 35-37mm Paselas to which they seem about equal, and I ride those Paselas everywhere. You can see them throughout these two sets: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157618204831557/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157622279022002/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 13:53 -0800, Bill M. wrote: > True, 38 mm is huge for a road tire. Even 42 isn't HUGE for a road tire. It all depends on how much you weigh, and what sort of shape the roads are where you ride. If you ride a lot on chipseal or badly broken pavement, 38-42mm is an ideal size. You'll have a smooth, comfortable ride no matter how rough the pavement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
True, 38 mm is huge for a road tire. But the Paris-Moto will be 50 grams lighter than a Maxy Fasty, barely heavier than a 650b x 32 mm Cypress, but 5 or 6 mm wider than either. If Jan Heine's theories on tire width and rolling resistance are true, the P-M should be faster on the road than the Cypress. Not beefy enough that I'd want to bounce it off of a lot of gravel, but light and cushy enough to (I hope) be a delight on a long day's ride. Bill On Feb 13, 9:25 am, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Feb 13, 11:32 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > 38mm is huge for dedicated paved road tire. personally, I don't see > any reason to ride a tire this big *unless* it's going to be used on > mixed terrain - which doesn't necessitate super heavy duty tires. my > point is that, if the pari-moto can't handle some off-road abuse (and > i don't think this will be a problem), then I don't see the value in > having such a tire. the 650b cypres is fast and light on the road, > and the Hetre will take care of dirt if the PM isn't up to the task. > > anyway, i can't wait to find out. good stuff for 650b coming up this > year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:48 -0800, Bruce wrote: > It's sold as an "event" tire. As in a race day set of rubber. Not what > you want for an off pavement ramble through goatheads. Well, I'm not sure it's quite that bad - the thickness is well in line with the Grand Bois Cypres, and I use that as a general purpose tire and have ridden it on dirt roads. Thank goodness we don't have goatheads here in Northern Virgnia and Southern Maryland, and our NoVA dirt roads aren't hard on tires the way some are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
It's sold as an "event" tire. As in a race day set of rubber. Not what you want for an off pavement ramble through goatheads. From: Steve Palincsar To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com And we knew from the start, this was to be a tire of the "fast, light" persuasion rather than a super heavy duty competitor to the Schwalbe offerings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 10:04 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote: > Depends on which Grand Bois. The Ourson is good in dirt, but the Hetre > not so much. It's all Cush and no traction. It's OK to an extent, but > if it gets steep it starts slipping on me. > It's still my favorite tire, but I take the Trimlines if I expect to > see much dirt. I guess it depends on what your "dirt" roads are like. Where I ride, the Hetre's been splendid. But my "dirt roads" are well maintained gravel roads, typically on very hard packed Virginia clay. There's nothing soft or squishy about them - hard as a miser's heart would be more like it. > Or the Neo-motos if it's ALL dirt. Isn't that a knobby tire suitable for single track? > Personally, my Pari-Motos will be strictly road tires. > Your mileage may vary, I've got friends who kick my butt on the trails > with 23mm slicks! There are folks who rode the 100 mile version of D2R2 on 23mm slicks. How, I can't possibly imagine! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Feb 13, 11:32 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: 38mm is huge for dedicated paved road tire. personally, I don't see any reason to ride a tire this big *unless* it's going to be used on mixed terrain - which doesn't necessitate super heavy duty tires. my point is that, if the pari-moto can't handle some off-road abuse (and i don't think this will be a problem), then I don't see the value in having such a tire. the 650b cypres is fast and light on the road, and the Hetre will take care of dirt if the PM isn't up to the task. anyway, i can't wait to find out. good stuff for 650b coming up this year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:32, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:37 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote: On Feb 13, 12:56 am, "Bill M." wrote: I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads . . . That'd be a shame! I don't see the value in a 38mm tire that can't be ridden on dirt. I guess I'll find out soon enough, but if the Pari- Moto is too fragile for serious mixed terrain use, I'll revert to grand bois. If the grand bois is suitable, I can't see how the Pari-Moto wouldn't be as well. Bill's restricting it to paved roads might mean nothing more than that he has other, sturdier options available to him. And we knew from the start, this was to be a tire of the "fast, light" persuasion rather than a super heavy duty competitor to the Schwalbe offerings. Depends on which Grand Bois. The Ourson is good in dirt, but the Hetre not so much. It's all Cush and no traction. It's OK to an extent, but if it gets steep it starts slipping on me. It's still my favorite tire, but I take the Trimlines if I expect to see much dirt. Or the Neo-motos if it's ALL dirt. Personally, my Pari-Motos will be strictly road tires. Your mileage may vary, I've got friends who kick my butt on the trails with 23mm slicks! Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:37 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Feb 13, 12:56 am, "Bill M." wrote: > > I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads . . . > > That'd be a shame! I don't see the value in a 38mm tire that can't > be ridden on dirt. I guess I'll find out soon enough, but if the Pari- > Moto is too fragile for serious mixed terrain use, I'll revert to > grand bois. If the grand bois is suitable, I can't see how the Pari-Moto wouldn't be as well. Bill's restricting it to paved roads might mean nothing more than that he has other, sturdier options available to him. And we knew from the start, this was to be a tire of the "fast, light" persuasion rather than a super heavy duty competitor to the Schwalbe offerings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 08:10 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > "I think you're worrying unnecessarily..." > > What else is there to do this time of year! Around here, there's plenty of snow shoveling to occupy your time. I feel as though I am living in the film "Woman in the Dunes"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_in_the_Dunes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
And consider that 2mm of tread is right between a Roll-y Pol-y with 1.5mm and a Ruffy Tuffy with 2.5, so we're not talking about Schwalbe- style thicknesses. I would have been curious to try the 1.5 version, actually, since I rather dig the Roll-y Pol-y. Aaron On Feb 13, 7:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 20:50 -0800, John Speare wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote: > > > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was > > > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn > > > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. > > > I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me > > nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it > > more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois > > Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide. > > I think you're worrying unnecessarily, John. > > To begin with, the issue with the CdlV isn't mainly that the tread is > thick as much as it is the specific type of tread, i.e., the > "mini-knobs". The Trimline was every bit as thick in the tread as the > CdlV, but it had significantly less rolling resistance. The famed Hetre > has a rather thick tread as well, which accounts for its remarkable > longevity, and it's also exceptionally fast and supple. > > > I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they > > would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my > > favorite tires ever. > > An extra half millimeter doesn't make for excessive thickness, although > it should add some useful service life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
"I think you're worrying unnecessarily..." What else is there to do this time of year! On Feb 13, 9:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 20:50 -0800, John Speare wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote: > > > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was > > > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn > > > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. > > > I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me > > nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it > > more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois > > Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide. > > I think you're worrying unnecessarily, John. > > To begin with, the issue with the CdlV isn't mainly that the tread is > thick as much as it is the specific type of tread, i.e., the > "mini-knobs". The Trimline was every bit as thick in the tread as the > CdlV, but it had significantly less rolling resistance. The famed Hetre > has a rather thick tread as well, which accounts for its remarkable > longevity, and it's also exceptionally fast and supple. > > > I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they > > would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my > > favorite tires ever. > > An extra half millimeter doesn't make for excessive thickness, although > it should add some useful service life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Feb 13, 12:56 am, "Bill M." wrote: > I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads . . . That'd be a shame! I don't see the value in a 38mm tire that can't be ridden on dirt. I guess I'll find out soon enough, but if the Pari- Moto is too fragile for serious mixed terrain use, I'll revert to grand bois. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 20:50 -0800, John Speare wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote: > > > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was > > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn > > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. > > > > I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me > nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it > more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois > Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide. I think you're worrying unnecessarily, John. To begin with, the issue with the CdlV isn't mainly that the tread is thick as much as it is the specific type of tread, i.e., the "mini-knobs". The Trimline was every bit as thick in the tread as the CdlV, but it had significantly less rolling resistance. The famed Hetre has a rather thick tread as well, which accounts for its remarkable longevity, and it's also exceptionally fast and supple. > I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they > would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my > favorite tires ever. An extra half millimeter doesn't make for excessive thickness, although it should add some useful service life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
>From the latest Riv Reader on the Paris-Moto: "The sample shown actually weighs 291g, but with a 1.5mm tread thickness. Kirk says the production tires will be thicker-about 2mm-and the 308g listed here is a prediction." Width shown is 38.15 mm. >From the VBQ test of the Hetre: "Width (on 25 mm Mavic Criterium rims): 42 mm Weight: Sample 1: 392 g; Sample 2: 426 g Thickness (casing + tread): 3.8 mm" Narrower and lighter than an Hetre? I'd say the P-M should fit the bill. I have a pair of the tan walls on order. I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads, I'll keep the Fatty Rumpkins for mixed- surface use. Bill On Feb 12, 8:50 pm, John Speare wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote: > > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was > > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn > > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. > > I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me > nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it > more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois > Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide. > > I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they > would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my > favorite tires ever. > > -- > John Speare > Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote: > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. > I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide. I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my favorite tires ever. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
I think Jan mentioned (in essence) that the market wouldn't bear another 38mm tire right now given other offerings. Ryan On Feb 12, 8:09 pm, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > Did Grand Bois really drop the 38mm project? This is the first I've > heard about it. > I'm starting a rumor right now: Grand Bois finally located the lost > Mistuboshi Trimline mold and we'll have a supple, folding Trimline by > summer! > Pass it on ;-) > > Cheers, > Ryan > > On Feb 12, 2010, at 20:55, Esteban wrote: > > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was > > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn > > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. > > > Esteban > > San Diego, Calif. > > > On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce wrote: > >> Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies.. > > >> - Forwarded Message > >> From: Kirk Pacenti > >> To: 6...@bikelist.org > >> Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM > >> Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010 > > >> Dear 650b fans, > > >> Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are > >> complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to > >> production. > > >> We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the > >> mould, but > >> hopefully we fll still get tires here by the end of March. > > >> Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project > >> early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality! > > >> Cheers, > > >> KP > > >> ___ > >> 650B mailing list > >> 6...@bikelist.orghttp://phred.org/mailman/listinfo/650b > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
Did Grand Bois really drop the 38mm project? This is the first I've heard about it. I'm starting a rumor right now: Grand Bois finally located the lost Mistuboshi Trimline mold and we'll have a supple, folding Trimline by summer! Pass it on ;-) Cheers, Ryan On Feb 12, 2010, at 20:55, Esteban wrote: Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce wrote: Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies.. - Forwarded Message From: Kirk Pacenti To: 6...@bikelist.org Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010 Dear 650b fans, Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to production. We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the mould, but hopefully we’ll still get tires here by the end of March. Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality! Cheers, KP ___ 650B mailing list 6...@bikelist.orghttp://phred.org/mailman/listinfo/650b -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010
Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce wrote: > Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies.. > > > > - Forwarded Message > From: Kirk Pacenti > To: 6...@bikelist.org > Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM > Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010 > > Dear 650b fans, > > Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are > complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to production. > > We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the mould, but > hopefully we’ll still get tires here by the end of March. > > Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project > early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality! > > Cheers, > > KP > > > > ___ > 650B mailing list > 6...@bikelist.orghttp://phred.org/mailman/listinfo/650b -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
